OHrly?

Halflife said:
Just for fun I googled "Halflife" and found this page.

I bid my farewell break and trusted this account to a caretaker which was known by the ls members, with a thought of returning, but I couldn't log since my password was changed without my consent. I don't even know what happened to my account and I don't even know these notorious acts happened during my absence.

Anyone care to explain what happened to Half after the mpk? Did she got banned?

By the way this is Halflife, not being controlled by “others”.
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wb half, glad u can save evi in time!
 
Blowy said:
Interesting because Kat says it all happened before she joined, and I thought she'd been there for awhile now...
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Just wanted to elaborate on this a tad Court. I was in OH from it's inception the beginning of last March until the end of August of 2005. Then I made the very big mistake of jumping ship when something happened internally and it was decided to break the shell. No drama there guys, so please don't jump to any conclusions. Anyway, I made a promise to one of my so-called friends (who I found out recently is truly not) that if I joined his shell, I would not go back to OH if the shell ended up not breaking for 6 months. Well, I fulfilled my promise even though I didn't end up staying in his shell. My word is my word as much as possible. Also, I wasn't positive at the time whether I even wanted to go back into endgame. So I basically for lack of a better word, wandered for awhile. Therefore, that's where my statement came from. I've just recently gone back to OH within the past month, mebbe 5 weeks now.

I'm not goin' to discuss anything else on this thread because the matter has been addressed within the shell and that is where it should remain.

I'd like to address Almaut for just a tad here. As Fire has said himself, those were his personal views in those PM's not those of OH members. Granted, I do not get to play as often as I used to within the past year because of rl, but I do want to back Fire and the others who posted that it wasn't discussed in the shell. I do believe those PM's were two friends discussing a subject, and Neo, nothing personal, but I feel you betrayed Fire's trust by firstly posting them on your LS website, and then Almaut taking it further by posting them publicly here. Personally Almaut, I feel you should have spoken to Fire privately. You wanted drama imo, therefore you brought it to the boards.

A lot of you people on these boards I've done ingame things with over the past two years. A lot of you I consider friends and I've done Rank Missions, ZM Missions, and other things with. Some of you, like Nasya for example, I've never even spoken to ingame, yet I do have a ton of respect for you. Some of you, I can honestly say I don't really care for one way or the other, but you can't get along with everyone. My point in all this is, that's just me personally. The majority of us posting here have been a community at qcdn since, for myself, June of 2004. Some of you even longer. We used to do a ton of stuff together. All of us. We really need to stop this pettiness and come together again. Competition is a good thing, but when it starts getting ugly, that's when we truly need to step back and rethink things.

I have people who I was close to 2 years ago that I am now no longer friends with because of all this stupid fighting. I'd also like it known, I am not condoning any 3rd party programs with I've said above. Personally myself, I can't even use windower on my comp or fraps for that matter. The only thing I've ever been able to actually use is that map thingy Nicolette posted, and I thank goodness for that. It's been a lifesaver for me more than once recently. What I am saying is we all need to just stop for awhile with all the betrayal we are doin' to each other.

Lastly, whether y'all want to call me a cheat, or Uz, or whoever are in the OH linkshell because of some things that have recently, and I do mean recently discovered, then so be it. I love these people who I log on with when I get to play this game, and I will forever remain loyal to them. I stayed loyal to them for the 6 months I was away from them, and I will remain that way, until the day I finally decide I've had enough and leave FFXI forever.
 
If you were so virtuous and caring to your true friends as you always try to sound, you'd talk to your friends and tell them to stop screwing around or they're gonna get permabanned and you won't be able to play with them anymore.

That's pure advice, far from any moral opinion on the legitimacy of speedhacking.
 
Farys said:
If you were so virtuous and caring to your true friends as you always try to sound, you'd talk to your friends and tell them to stop screwing around or they're gonna get permabanned and you won't be able to play with them anymore.

That's pure advice, far from any moral opinion on the legitimacy of speedhacking.
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I'm not goin' to discuss anything else on this thread because the matter has been addressed within the shell and that is where it should remain.


I will leave it at that Farys.
 
Kat said:
The majority of us posting here have been a community at qcdn since, for myself, June of 2004. Some of you even longer. We used to do a ton of stuff together. All of us. We really need to stop this pettiness and come together again. Competition is a good thing, but when it starts getting ugly, that's when we truly need to step back and rethink things.
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That is what adults would do Kat. But unfortunatly, there are only a few adults who play this game, and fewer who play endgame.

I'm not talking about age either. It won't change, don't expect it to. That notion is just incredibly blind sighted.
 
Uzor said:
(Sorry for 4x post)

And btw, since people say we accuse other LS's of using hacks on our website, mind giving me the exact url to whatever thread/page says we accuse others? Because I'm calling bullshit on your part.
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The URL was given already. It was the mainpage for the outerheaven website. Under "today's news" on the very top there was a new video of OH claiming KB at 1% after it went super. The comment that precedeed the link for the video said something to the tune of "We claimed KB today, but we didn't have enough to fight it so we called for help. Purpose claimed KB after that led by -fleetooler- Sinhard." That's an almost exact quote, or at least the "led by fleetooler Sinhard" is an exact quote. That sounds like an accusation to me. This was pointed out on this thread and the comment was removed the day after.
 
Uzor said:
And btw, since people say we accuse other LS's of using hacks on our website, mind giving me the exact url to whatever thread/page says we accuse others? Because I'm calling bullshit on your part.
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It was already mentioned earlier in the thread when it was listed on the OH website describing Sinhard as "flee tooling". There was no proof and he even uses PS2. Funny that as soon as Xan mentioned it, the post was mysteriously deleted.
 
Uzor said:
How is that even remotely related to the topic? It isn't, because I wouldn't take my share of the loot, just like I haven't got *ANYTHING* from OH for the past 6 months, k?
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That wasn't meant for you specifically, it was meant in general for anyone benefitting from the speed hacks. If they're being used at ls events, and ls members are receiving the benefits from them, it doesn't matter if they have them installed or not, or even if they're on PS2. They're benefitting from someone else's cheating, and sure as hell aren't clean.

Even if you don't receive any items, if you're at the events and die less, or get done faster due to someone else cheating, you are still benefitting from someone else's cheating.
 
Sigh, I tried to merge Uzor's posts and accidentally deleted them. 5:25AM > Sculli. Sorry about that. This is the second time in as many weeks that a merge attempt has gone wrong, I guess I just won't be doing those anymore.
 
Kat said:
I'm not goin' to discuss anything else on this thread because the matter has been addressed within the shell and that is where it should remain.


I will leave it at that Farys.
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I won't :D
Seemed to have changed your tune in the last few days. First it was "we don't cheat." Then "I see no cheating. Algarius subs thief." Then "this has been dealt with in-shell where it belongs."

Pardon me for...oh...calling you a liar.
Stop the "betrayal" or what, kat? You lose member after member week after week until you can't function any more?

I and a lot of people don't associate with cheats. You want to reconcile? Stop cheating.
 
Kat said:
I do believe those PM's were two friends discussing a subject, and Neo, nothing personal, but I feel you betrayed Fire's trust by firstly posting them on your LS website, and then Almaut taking it further by posting them publicly here. Personally Almaut, I feel you should have spoken to Fire privately. You wanted drama imo, therefore you brought it to the boards.
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violating trust by posting it? he shouldnt make those comments to me that he wouldnt make to anyone else. thats the way comments should be.. dont talk behind peoples back accusing them of stuff, if they wouldnt say it to their face.... so, i really dont see the problem here? if i had said the same about OH in private messages, i wouldnt be mad if it made it to the public, because i shouldnt only say things in a private message because they are private.. it doesnt matter how close of a friend you are to someone, people need to be this way.

Kat said:
Lastly, whether y'all want to call me a cheat, or Uz, or whoever are in the OH linkshell because of some things that have recently, and I do mean recently discovered, then so be it. I love these people who I log on with when I get to play this game, and I will forever remain loyal to them. I stayed loyal to them for the 6 months I was away from them, and I will remain that way, until the day I finally decide I've had enough and leave FFXI forever.
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i honestly believe all of what you said, aside from the "recently discovered".. i mean, you dont just say "oh wow they used flee hacks?? wow i never knew all that time that people were moving at warp speeds for extended time in sky, kirins, bahamut, and all these events".. i mean.. really lol a claim bot would be different, but not flee hacking.
 
To be fair to kat, they've been lying to her and she had no reason to not believe them over someone else. She really thought Algarius subbed thief to kite jorm probably. She's not a lead. She's just a player, and what she's told by what she considers trustworthy people, she believes. No fault really, other than to be naive enough to come here and vouch for someone based on word alone.

What she means by recently you'll find out soon enough though. Something happened very recently that is going to remove any doubt as to how extensive the fleetool use is within said group. Even the shell members will no longer be able to deny the truth, to even the most naive player. If I were them I'd just come out and say what happened. This isn't going to stay within their shell, because everyone has a right to know the truth when it comes to cheating for gain in FFXI.
 
If you want to impale someone who denies that they see any cheating and are flat-out lying to your face about it, don't go for kat honestly. Firestreak is the one you want, the leader of a dynamis shell which knowingly equips their pullers with fleetools in order to win beaucedine and survive in xarcabard. A leader which, if he didn't know his own dynamis shell was using fleetools to its own advantage. At best he's lazy and incompetent if true. If true, he's a lying cheating corrupt scammer who milks people like kat who buy the duct-taped halo.
 
Kat said:
Lastly, whether y'all want to call me a cheat, or Uz, or whoever are in the OH linkshell because of some things that have recently, and I do mean recently discovered, then so be it. I love these people who I log on with when I get to play this game, and I will forever remain loyal to them. I stayed loyal to them for the 6 months I was away from them, and I will remain that way, until the day I finally decide I've had enough and leave FFXI forever.
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I appreciate that Kat, and I appreciate that you stand by your friends when they've made a mistake. That's the way it should be. They don't believe they've made a mistake though, and they've made it clear that they're not going to stop.

Fourteen months ago I promised myself that if fighting HNMs that if it comprimised myself as a person, I'd quit HNMs and not look back. The people that I play with are my friends too, but if they accepted that any hack, cheat etc was necessary to get what they want, then they wouldn't the people I became friends with in the first place.

"All that is required for evil to prosper is that men of good conscience do nothing"
Thomas Jefferson
 
Neo, thats a load of shit. Friends should feel free to discuss WHATEVER they want with each other without having to worry about a betrayal of trust. Fire thought you were his friend, and he trusted you. You stabbed him in the back. I dont care what the topic was about, but what you did was low. If you felt uncomfortable about what he was saying, you could have told him you would rather not discuss it, instead of goading him into speaking his mind, then posting it to create the drama.
 
You must have missed my post earlier Sire... but I'll break it down for you.

Neo simply went to the LS and asked if what he had heard from Fire was true, wanting to know the history of the LS, and if infact hacks were used.

Alm was one of the accused by Fire, so Alm posted this defending himself and our LS.

Why did he post here?

Fire said Alm used them and that he heard of others in our LS using hacks. Which means more than one person felt that way. Posting here reaches the most people to let them know that we aren't cheaters.

Clear now?
 
Kirayamato said:
they are making tarutaru babies in malaysia :O
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and then using them to mpk at fafnir!


:ph34r:
 
Ezikiel said:
You must have missed my post earlier Sire... but I'll break it down for you.

Neo simply went to the LS and asked if what he had heard from Fire was true, wanting to know the history of the LS, and if infact hacks were used.

Alm was one of the accused by Fire, so Alm posted this defending himself and our LS.

Why did he post here?

Fire said Alm used them and that he heard of others in our LS using hacks. Which means more than one person felt that way. Posting here reaches the most people to let them know that we aren't cheaters.

Clear now?
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No, not clear.

Neophytal said:
violating trust by posting it? he shouldnt make those comments to me that he wouldnt make to anyone else.
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The point being you should be able to make comments, no matter what they are, to your friends. Like I said, I dont care about the topic. My friends know what I think of Kaizen and other ls, because I talk to them, yet you dont see any of them posting.

If something is done in PM, then thats where it should stay. Honestly, do you think posting on the flameboard is going to change anyone's opinion as to whether almaut does or doesnt hack? People are gonna believe whatever they want.
 
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