Daveman said:
Then you really should look at yourself before talking about the hacks. People just read the word "hack" and consider it the greatest evil. I'm sure any kaizen member can testify that speedhacking isn't even a real advantage to killing wryms and the like. Our ls uses it more out of utility than neccesity, and I can assure you, people who do use it do it out of their own accord, and most people don't even speedhack, it's literally like 2-3 people that still use it at all, alot stopped using after glade got perma banned, then more when kireek got caught, I'm sure even more with these threads.
Then at least some good has come out of these threads. Strangely enough, up until a couple of pages ago, your linkshell members were claiming that they didn't believe any speedhacking was occurring. At least someone has finally been upfront and honest about it.
People keep asking why hacking is an issue. I'm not sure how many people here keep up with events across other servers, but recently someone posted screenshots from the LS Boards of "Excellence", one of the top NA Shells on Hades, giving its members detailed instructions on how to use claim bots in conjunction with flee and warp hacks. The LS that was called out readily admitted that they use these hacks on pretty much everything, and noone on the server even seemed particularly surprised as it seems that all the shells do exactly the same thing.
On Quetz, we probably camp more land Kings than any other NA Shell. We don't use any hacks to claim or fight, and we're very proud of that (which is why you've seen so many of our people posting in this thread, when most rarely post here at all). The linkshell that we're competing against most of the time is JDA. I can't prove it, but I'm almost certain that they don't use hacks to claim either (if they do, their hack really sucks because they don't dominate claims any more than any other shell).
Speedhacks offer a marginal advantage on many fights with a pretty high probability of getting caught, because it's obvious to anyone in the area that it's happening. Claimbots on the other hand offer a huge reward for using, and are almost impossible to prove. If someone is willing to take the risk with a speed hack, it's only a small step for them to start using a claimbot (and there's certainly no evidence that OH has ever done this), and that's pretty much the end of the endgame for any remotely honest people.
I can't imagine playing the endgame on Hades. The players on Quetz will decide if we go the same way, and the first step is accepting hacks.