Organizational updates and a few things from Miros

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This is just a new grey dot, really

Unless I'm really misunderstanding this, I'm pretty sure their rep doesn't actually go away. They just can't see it and they can't rep anyone else. I could be wrong though.
 
Unless I'm really misunderstanding this, I'm pretty sure their rep doesn't actually go away. They just can't see it and they can't rep anyone else. I could be wrong though.
Not sure. There's a lot of different ways that this can go, and it might still even be under discussion. Personally, I don't really like any of them and think it's easier and a better idea to just scrap the whole thing rather than try to please the minority who thinks there is some major flaw.
 
Not sure. There's a lot of different ways that this can go, and it might still even be under discussion. Personally, I don't really like any of them and think it's easier and a better idea to just scrap the whole thing rather than try to please the minority who thinks there is some major flaw.

The poll that I did would show that it is a little more then a minority who want to do away with the reputation system. I'm not trying to be a dick but I'm just pointing it out. It's why I'm focusing on it so much right now. And it is still under discussion at this point.
 
Um, long post....


I think you guys are doing your jobs, otherwise the website wouldn't be here lol....I don't really get the Rate disabling thing, but we'll see when that implemented.

I wonder if we could Nominate users for Global mods?
 
If it's between the options of leaving the system alone, or disabling it completely, I say leave it alone.

If it's between disabling it per-person and disabling it completely, I say disable it completely.

This is just a new grey dot, really, and it's better to just turn it off than try to fix something that isn't broken. I was asked the first question, and not the second, so if it's possible or even matters, consider this a change to my previous vote in the other thread.
For once I agree with garvin, the problem here is person A is being harass by person B person A has to give up the rep system in order to escape oppression. (melodramatic I know but you get the picture) Only difference is I'm at the other end of spectrum as garvin. The system is broken, and not used to what it attended to be, rate peoples post. If it a private message board they want instead of a rep system, can't we just do that; with the option to lock certain people you don't want sending you messages out. Then put some custom icons, but instead of rep make it years/months on board/post count. That way get there message board, there epeen and no harassment problems.
 
The main flaw in what I can see here with reputation is that people with red dots are usually not giving out much reputation anyway, and those with GOOD rep are not going to want to take it away. Not many of them, anyway.

So, in the end, you end up only pleasing the delinquents.

I support big changes to the reputation system, but this is not one of them. At least, the way I read it. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
 
En la ere del sistema de reputación se ha convertido más dificil para los nuevos usuarios (y viejos usuarios como nosotros) mantener una buena reputación. Los malentendidos son creados facilmente en el internet y dificiles de evitar. ¿Como podemos protegernos en este medio tan complicado?

Parece que el sistema de Miros es la solucion.

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In the age of the Rep System it has become more difficult than ever for new users (and even long time users like us) to sustain a favourable reputation. Misunderstandings are very easily created through the internets but difficult to hinder. How can we protect ourselves in such a complicated environment?

It looks like Miros system is the solution.
 
If it's between the options of leaving the system alone, or disabling it completely, I say leave it alone.

If it's between disabling it per-person and disabling it completely, I say disable it completely.

This is just a new grey dot, really, and it's better to just turn it off than try to fix something that isn't broken. I was asked the first question, and not the second, so if it's possible or even matters, consider this a change to my previous vote in the other thread.

I would have thought this solved the essential problems with the "Grey Dot" of old, in that those persons who were disabling their own reputations were still leaving chiding commentary on others' pages. This does away with that in that those people, in order to hide their own rep (as I read it), also forfeit their own rights to leaving anyone else comments in reputation boxes. I, for one, like this idea.

It does not allow anyone to have his/her cake and eat it too, from what I read on Miros's post.

Keep fighting the good fight fellas.
 
There will be no more cake on this forum anymore.

Not even this cake?

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Miros how do we report rate downs now? Or do we send you a PM stating what was said?

How would you like me to send it to you? Can do it when you are ready, because I think someone already wants to join that usergroup.
 
putting aside the idea that you're kind of snuffing all possibilities of discussion with your threat at the beginning, I have a couple things to say.

As I've said before, I think you mods have cleaned up a great deal in the past few months, and you've continued to improve. The canning of Neophytal and Wonko spring to mind as recent examples of good judgment. That said, its a thankless job, and you're always going to get way more flak than praise, so you're going to have to live with it. Some people like to think being a moderator is some sort of status symbol, when its really just a position you take when you want to help out the greater community, and put that desire over your own personal feelings.
You're going to be criticized, and you just need to be able to suck it up and look at it to see what you can learn from it. Is the person in question complaining because you genuinely made a mistake? Or just because he has sand in his yoo-hoo and you've taken action against him because he's an idiot.

Your new reputation system is either "the new grey dot" or "The perfect fix" depending on the following: Do other people know that these people are in said group. I mean, does it smply remove their rep bar from their profile? Or simply prevent the person in question from seeing reputations and sending it themselves.

If its the first option, then it's just stupid, as it lets idiots hide how much of an idiot they are. If its the second, then it still shows everyone else how much of an idiot they are, while protecting their fragile egos from the ever-menacing red dot of doom, glaring at them from the bottom of their profile box.

Also, much like my solution to the avatar/sig work probem over a year ago, I point out a nifty little feature to all those who might have missed it.
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Yep, you can hide your rep from yourself. Now you won't be greeted by a line of red dots whenever you go to your UserCP. Of course you would then need self control in order to not open it up again every time, but at that point its not the mod's problem, its yours.

In closing, mods are doing good even if we don't tell you so, and the rep system is fine as long as people can't just up and hide from their mistakes.

Also, if certain people are using it to flame others, then deal with the certain people. Last I checked, when a small group of people abuses a system other people enjoy, you don't scrap the system (This should also apply to a small group of people whining about said system.)
 
There will be no more cake on this forum anymore.

The.. the cake.. is a lie?

WAAAH.

Miros, I always back you (hehe) in your decisions that need backing (hehe) on this board. Keep up the good work.
 
The.. the cake.. is a lie?

WAAAH.

Miros, I always back you (hehe) in your decisions that need backing (hehe) on this board. Keep up the good work.

I did too... until he turned on the cake. Now, he's my mortal enemy. He even scares Scrubs now (IE: My Avatar/title).
 
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