Parrying Skillups: Weapon to wield?

[Khajit]

If its false then maat's level varies each time you enter.

 

[Corvinus]

PM me if you have question or ingame. 268.6 very close to complete.

 

[Skaw]

But I would avoid the chigoes. While you can just use a JA to instant kill um, if you get hit with a plague as a non-caster, you're not getting a chance to rest til it wears. Could cost you alot of time.

Plague doesn't cause any damage to HP, so what would that have to do with preventing the use of /heal?

Edit: Nevermind, you got the status mixed up. Disease and Plague aren't the same thing. Disease prevents recovery. Plague drains MP and TP.

The single best way to lvl up parrying is to use a relic weapon (999 delay, 1 damage) against chigoes and subbing RDM. However, once you've capped parrying for Chigoes, you'll need to go after stronger things, so then earth staff would probably be better, with someone backup healing you.

Just engage a completely different target, while keeping your skill up mob directly infront of you. This also prevents giving the mob you're using 21% TP every time you do swing with a relic weapon.

 

[Uzor]

Plague doesn't cause any damage to HP, so what would that have to do with preventing the use of /heal?

Edit: Nevermind, you got the status mixed up. Disease and Plague aren't the same thing. Disease prevents recovery. Plague drains MP and TP.



Just engage a completely different target, while keeping your skill up mob directly infront of you. This also prevents giving the mob you're using 21% TP every time you do swing with a relic weapon.

That I'm not sure that'd work. Admitedly, I never tried that, but I'm rather sure you need to be engaged with the target to parry.

 

[pchan]

nope no need to be engaged. this works for guard also.

 

[Uzor]

nope no need to be engaged. this works for guard also.

You do need to be engaged, only shield you don't need to be engaged, but I'm not sure if you can be engaged with another mob

 

[Reko]

You do need to be engaged, only shield you don't need to be engaged, but I'm not sure if you can be engaged with another mob

I've parried attacks from mobs I haven't been engaged to numerous times.
But I have been engaged to another mob those times though.

 

[Corvinus]

What I did was Ninja/Pld ate Taco for defense boost + Sentinel link 2 Even match or tough Mandies in Den of Rancor and put -% damage gears on near zone to Temple. When I'm outta MP and almost die, I zone, rest and repeat it (I brought reraise too). It would be nice to to have 2-3 friends help cure but not many people can stand this lol, take forever. I don't think weapon matter much to me, it's the speed of the enemies hit ya is what count, faster hits, higher rate of parrying, and higher chance skill up. I used katanas whole time never actually used Earth Staff. It's so lucky to get .1 or .2 at 260+. Oh and pack all the AGI you can get, it speeded up the process big time.

You have to be in battle mode to parrying, can't be like shield just stand and block. Cap parrying does active alot just not as much as shield. It's a nice back up skill, sometime you parrying mob when you recast shadow.

 

[Nyosan~]

Just engage a completely different target, while keeping your skill up mob directly infront of you. This also prevents giving the mob you're using 21% TP every time you do swing with a relic weapon.

I can verify that this works, I've recieved skill-ups in both Parrying and Shield as RDM75/BLU37 outside of Nashmau with Chigoes, while engaged to one of the other random mobs in the area.

 

[Stouter]

While leveling evasion on THF, I noticed I recieved more skill ups when I took hits versus evading hits. That's why removing the boxer's mantle improved skill ups and also why you cannot apply the same logic to parry since you actually need a parry to occur in order to skill up. Skill and AGI will both increase the rate at which you actually parry an attack so one would think adding both would increase the rate of skill ups.

Oh I took hits with boxers and evasion torque on, I would let shadows fall and get smacked a couple times if we had adequate healing. The difference between +17 skill and base skill is dramatic on skill up rate.

 

[Stouter]

Yeah you don't need to be engaged with a mob to parry it, you just need to be facing it with your weapon out on any mob. The same goes for counter, which is why melee don't fight mnk mobs from the same side as the tank (and shouldn't for any mob that can parry either, although it's much more rare)

 

[Ruffyreborn]

The Maat theory is completely and 100% false.

hence, why I said theory

 

[K. Ishitar]

Seriously, what the hell is the point of those? Why would anyone want -10 AGI/DEX?

i was told they are used for skill ups I thought they would be useful in helping

/shrug

 

[pchan]

I'll share my info on parrying skill ups. A lot of things have been said already but let me add this:

It is rumored that 2xhands increase skillups, but i think this rumors comes from SAM getting faster skills ups,
but this is actually due to their low evasion.

+parry increase the rate at which you parry, so it should increase your parry skill up rate. hard to test.

i could swear you have to evade an attack to get evasion skill up, but i can't remember right, it was long time ago.

I stoped parry at 236 skill. I "fought" chigoes inside Ayedeewa Subterran. I actually aggroed 3-4 of them, engage a different mob
while they are facing me ( so that i don't kill chigoes with crits), use earth staff for -dmg,
buff myself with my friend rdm char ( protect IV and phalanx 2), def food, all +DEF gear i can get.
This way they are hitting for only 0-10 dmg, and i can last like this indefinatly. Also, the chigoes not being engaged
means the healer won't have hate on cures. I did 175-235 parry like this, in a few hours ( 20hours or something),
it was very fast. The sad thing is that those chigoes are lv 68 max, and cannot yield further skills up ; ;

Now, after that I levelled my nin , its 69 atm. my parry has been capped all the way till 68, and let me tell you: i dont parry much more
than when I plaid thief with crappy skill. to throw out numbers,
you can maybe get 1 parry out of 30 evades. This helps, but its rather neglectible lol.

 

[Sharpe]

i could swear you have to evade an attack to get evasion skill up, but i can't remember right, it was long time ago.

You don't.

 

[Corvinus]

You do parrying alot with high parrying skill or almost cap look at this screenshot. Red dont got enough AGI low lvl ninja dont get any either until end game.

Skilling up with +44 AGI

It's pain in the ass to cap it for me atm.

 

[Blackchaoshero]

The Maat theory is completely and 100% false.

is it? how many times have you fought him? you speak as if you'd parsed this enough to draw conclusive answers....

also, i'm not a big advocate of the maat theory but you speak in definites that i doubt you have enough fact to base it on. another aspect of the maat theory is perceived advantage is at least as important as actual advantage. if you think you have the upper hand you play smoother, and you panic less. this is just as important as maat receiving the detriments themselves.

the Hat and Sandals of bad stats are kinda funny. personally, i think they help skill things. Hat helps guard and parry, sandals help guard. (probably shield in there too or w/e but i have no experience to try and hypothesize in that field)

 

[Nyrona]

I always thought you could parry with offhand, since a lot of people say NIN or /NIN get the parry parry skillups...hm.

Nin has a very high base agility, and good parrying skill, therefore they get very good parrying chance

 

[pchan]

Nin has a very high base agility, and good parrying skill, therefore they get very good parrying chance

not really , i said i levelled from 50 to 69 ninja with capped parry and evasion... rarely parry.

 

[Caerloc]

I'll share my info on parrying skill ups. A lot of things have been said already but let me add this:

It is rumored that 2xhands increase skillups, but i think this rumors comes from SAM getting faster skills ups,
but this is actually due to their low evasion.

Sam has the third highest evasion in the game...
Dont pull stuff out your ass.