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Chasym, you shoulda asked them if SE plans to make a windower tool themselves for FFXI =P

GMs are gonna say windower is a third party tool. They can give whatever reason they want for telling you why. If they woulda said because it makes monsters pop faster on the windower than the fullscreen would you believe it? Also means the 'Higher-Ups' could have tried windower and see what it can do.

If they have a prob with windower... why don't they try stopping it at the source. Just like Licensed anime. People still D/L licensed anime (naruto/bleach), right?

Then they'll give the whole excuse saying you're responsible for anything that happens and etc. That it's your choice to download etc etc blah blah... when you can easily find where the program is being made and etc. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to find where you can get your hands on windower tool. And it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out where to find links to download licensed anime.

Also.. to quote the GM.. he/she said windower 'can' cause your character to run faster... not 'will.' So therefore.. there has to be some requirements as to how that is possible. Maybe if you lived in japan.. you can notice it since the servers are closer and the ping would be lower.

Also.. can you tell me how to copy what's on my screen with the chatlog while in fullscreen mode? I dunno how to do that... only know how to take pics without the chatlog showing.
 
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Bustaballs said:
I must have had a super lite version because I couldn't out run anyone and I could never win those chocobo race quests.
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He never said it makes your total travel time shorter. On the server side, it will lag you out - showing your character to be standing in one spot. Everything looks the same on your end. When sync is re-established, your character zooms up to it's correct spot. Exactly the same way it looks when other people lag out to you.

I presume there's more to it on the technical end since SE needs to differentiate Windower lag from real lag. It doesn't make you run any faster or go anywhere quicker, it just lags in detectable, repeating patterns (something to that effect).
 
its not lag, its bursts of speed that comes in patches and looks as if you have speed movement gear/ fleetool if anyone really pays attention, The bursts go in the speed or marzurka and dont last long alot, sometimes they can but generally its about a 60 second + thing if that much at all.
 
Oooooh... I've had that happen.

Like...

Once...

In all my windower usage.
 
i would find it odd to only happen once since in tests it was found to happen at least 30 times in an hour, at most the count was 45, tested on different pc's. we concluded to say that by average pc stats, 25 occurences in one hour would be very common. but thats from my groups personal tests with 22 people on their own pc's.
 
That's the same thing lag does, ever see someone lag warp through a wall? (they actually run around it, but due to yours, or their connection, it appears they run through it on your screen)
 
We call that.. whitegate lag, happens all the time in fullscreen
 
I've noticed this only happened in extremely laggy areas(Dynamis, Besieged, Whitegate), and even then it was very rare. It's happened, but so infrequently that it could just be lag and wouldn't be an effective means to track people using the windower.
 
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It's not the same as lag, once I zoned and I was running very fast for no apparent reason, in a completely empty zone. It was fun, then it stopped after 30 seconds or so. I could tell it wasn't just lag because I traveled further than normally possible in that space of time.

But regardless of what it is, I can hardly believe those numbers.
 
I notice something thats pretty weird, except its the complete opposite. I never noticed running faster (doesnt mean it didnt happen), but there are times when I run EXTREEEEEEEEMELY SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW even in low lag area's
 
I will say it again, when SE decides to make a move against windower specificly they will say so, not this covert coverup bullshit. Go search reality sinks in threads if you want that kind of garbage. Until then I will have my bullshit alarm handy for any of those people who get "Accidently" banned. I have little sympathy and even less pitty in me for people who cant even fess up to their own actions. Fucken cowards.
 
Direwolf said:
I will say it again, when SE decides to make a move against windower specificly they will say so, not this covert coverup bullshit. Go search reality sinks in threads if you want that kind of garbage. Until then I will have my bullshit alarm handy for any of those people who get "Accidently" banned. I have little sympathy and even less pitty in me for people who cant even fess up to their own actions. Fucken cowards.
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lol, youre just being retarded, seriously. You think talking shit makes you look superior? lmao.

Its easy as crap for me to know if I have use tools or not. Whats bullshit is people like you thinking you can sentence people the way you do. SE has DEFINITELY suspended people for use of windower in the past. You are seriously a dumbass to think they didnt.
 
Then you probably talked about using Windower in game. Because thats the only reason they'd take action against you for it, because it's the only way they would know.
 
Skaw said:
Then you probably talked about using Windower in game. Because thats the only reason they'd take action against you for it, because it's the only way they would know.
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if SE can scan LS chat, and /tell's, then Im definitely guilty
 
Skaw said:
They can.
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No, they can look at them, but they cant scan it. As in, search all text for the word "windower" or whatever. They have to look at each individual log for the word, because its all clientside.
 
Marajade said:
No, they can look at them, but they cant scan it. As in, search all text for the word "windower" or whatever. They have to look at each individual log for the word, because its all clientside.
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But LS chat does go through SE's servers to get to the other users clients. Maybe mentioning it just raises a flag? idk.
 
You're a massive fool if you think the clientside logs are the only logs involved in GM investigations. There are serverside logs. Clientside ones are just way too tiny to be reliable. Not to mention you could just make read-only text files replacing the clientside logs, making them entirely pointless.
 
Khali said:
GMs are gonna say windower is a third party tool. They can give whatever reason they want for telling you why. If they woulda said because it makes monsters pop faster on the windower than the fullscreen would you believe it? Also means the 'Higher-Ups' could have tried windower and see what it can do.
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Actually, they'd say it's a third party tool because it's made by a third party, lol.
 
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