I know I said I wasn't going to take part in this thread but I started talking about it with someone else and my thoughts are organized enough now that I'll suffer a short post.
I couldn't bring myself to read much of this thread, it was pissing me off way too bad, but I read a few scattered posts here and there so I think I have some handle on what the argument is about at least. I'm sure some of the things I'll say have already been addressed as well, but then again, what argument anywhere on this board isn't a redundancy?
First of all, it's your opinion that all drugs are bad, this is not a fact. So to ask that drug talk not be allowed would be like me asking that any mention of rap be a bannable offense. I hate rap, can't fucking stand it. I think the people that listen to rap are, in general, stupid people, that rap music breeds ignorant thinking, and that rap as a whole should be wiped from the face of the earth. This however is just my opinion. Many people disagree with me, and in most cases I know I'm wrong in thinking this. My opinion is not a fact, and therefore I have no legitimate basis in trying to make rap illegal.
You believe drugs breed stupidity, well I'm here to tell you they don't. The reason some people do stupid things on drugs or because of drugs is because those people are stupid people, and stupid people are going to do stupid things whether drugs exist or not.
I hang out with alot of people that do drugs, anything from pot to heroin, and not a single one of them has a problem with it. None of them are so desperate for their next fix that they pawn all their possessions and steal from their family just to get it. None of them have fucked up family lives that revolve around drug use, none of them are stupid people. Personally I don't hang out with idiots. I've personally seen some of my friends smoke meth every day for months and months at a time, but when the meth or the means to get it is gone, it's gone. They accept the fact and don't freak out over it like so many hollywood-portrayed people do. Now if the means arises again and they're able to smoke then yay, but I've seen all sorts of very long drug binges followed by equally long sobriety. They aren't weak-minded idiots like the people you see on TV.
Another argument I saw against drug discussion is that there are small impressionable children that post on these boards. Well, anyone smart enough to play this game with any sort of success at all is smart enough to make their own decisions, and if they can't play the game very good then they should get the hell off it and the boards. Whether they should be doing drugs or not is a decision they are capable of making themselves, not for you to make for them. That's really all I have to say on that subject.*
Another reason I saw is that it gives the board a bad name, or makes the board look bad by having all sorts of drug discussion going on. That again is just opinion. Personally I think drug discussion is a good thing, and I'm drawn to places where there's alot of it. I think it indicates an open-mindedness and a tolerance that alot of places don't have(what this place is soon to become). In your eyes a drug communtiy may look like a bad thing, but through mine it's a great place to be.
Short, sweet, and to the point, like all my posts. I think I've said what I wanted to say now.
*No I don't advocate little kids doing drugs, just so we're clear on that. I was 14 the first time I smoked pot but not until I was 16 and half way through my senior year in highschool did I start buying it and smoking regularly, (the two years inbetween I smoked maybe half a dozen times just with my friends) because I was smart enough to know that I was too young to be doing it heavily, and that I needed these younger years to focus on school and develop my brain a little more before I started deteriorating it. By the way, I graduated from highschool with straight A's and a 3.5 GPA. It would have been 4.0 but I fucked up my first semester of my freshman year with stupidity(and that was before I ever touched a drug).
And what fucking basis do you have to go by? Just your fucking casual "experience" as a drug user? Do you have no other function in society? Fuck, look at Chuash there, so very fucking proud to be a functioning member of society working in a goddamn Rite-Aid, while prancing around loving the implications set against him because it rouses people into forming questions and opinions about his drug use.
Are you any different? So fucking what, you use drugs, does that mean anyone really cares? Do you really feel the fucking need to post on an internet forum otherwise reserved for gaming or other mild topics for the general reader base to indulge on? If you do, why? If you wanted Trippy's opinion, which can be considered respectable by some fucking moronic means, couldn't you have equally just as easily sent him a
personal message asking him, "Hey, is this drug I used safe? Is it really a groovy new thing I've found?" He could have just as easily talked to you about it.
You people fucking appall me in every aspect by coming here and preaching that drug use is both free speech and free will. It's dictated as such by none other than the fucking user! Yes the substances are illegal. Yes it is your fucking choice to use them, as well as your acceptance of the consequences if caught. Why on earth would you subjugate any other innocent to this kind of behavior? It's been frequented that people wouldn't be as ignorant, but how do you fucking know? Apparently someone is, if you idiots keep using this shit with the horrendous health implications, consequences with the law, and social status, without any kind of recompense unto yourselves in the slightest! Perhaps I've held my tongue on my true perspective on the matter, but I cannot any longer. It's people like
you, yes, I'm calling you out, you fucking irresponsible asshole, that really sets this issue aside and really labels those that share your interests or hobbies in intoxications through illegal or non-viable means that contradict the normal function of a human body, aside from normal, productive members of society that
choose to better themselves by not allowing indulgence in foreign substances of such.
If you choose to do it, it's on you. Plain and simple. Why would you put it on anyone else, education or not, to even wonder about these things? Common questions arise: "Why do you care? Why are you so passionate about this? Why does it matter?" I'll tell you why it fucking matters, because I truly, personally, believe that every scumbag son of a bitch that allows themselves to entertain the idea of drugs unto others, are all the fucking scum of the earth. Morality aside, that's how I see it, and you'll be hard-pressed to make me see it any other way. I'm passionate about such because of an abusive father that had a fucking problem when I was younger, and of the effects it had on the family afterwards. I was 7 years old, and I will never,
never forget the hardships that this irresponsibility by this man who was supposed to be a figurehead for his children, a man to his wife, and a responsible member of society caused. If you want to try and take that away, by all means try, but nothing will come to the surface in that regard.
Seriously, have some fucking dignity unto yourself. You can be responsible for yourself, but you can't always be responsible for others. The bottom line is, sometimes shit comes down to other people misinterpreting "information" for a joyous past-time turned rotten into something they should attempt to "safely" attempt in a feeble attempt to experience all there is to experience.
But God damn it, if this gets me banned from the boards or not, take your indignation elsewhere "Excalibur". You are not the fucking righteous part of the world, and you really shouldn't try to be any longer.
Take a good, long gander at this buddy. Do you want to impose this on others? Do you want to press more fucking anti-social habits onto innocents? Ask yourself real hard, because chances are you may start wondering if you can be an innocent ever again. Do you know what any self-implementing person, who actively participates in society as someone who attempts and strives to achieve and gain that higher class status would think looking at you?
Well, I'll tell you what I think looking at you.
"Fucking stoner."
Be it a suspension follows this or not, I am fucking tired of this bullshit on ephemeral paper. You deserve it.