Posts concerning drug use

[Trippyhippy]

And if ANYONE tries to argue with Trippy over the subject of drugs, seriously, you know you're probably going to lose.

The funny thing about it is this discussion isn't about drugs, it's about censorship. To this day, I have never paid attention to what anyone has ever told me I can and can not say, and I never will.

I actually enjoy when people disagree with me, especially if it is something I have strong feelings about. Censorship and prohibition are both topics I feel strongly about. Roll them into one and I just won't stop till I get the last word. Sometimes even that won't shut me up.

I do apologize if I have been a bit overzealous.

 

[meeze]

It's not about censorship, it's about not running around like a jack ass thinking getting loaded is cool and setting up parties to get wasted, or making threads about "new drugs" when there are children around.

You like getting loaded, fine, you get high, good for you. I have my vices as well, but I dont go into kids playgrounds advertising drugs to them. As much as people bitch and moan about parenting, it takes a village, and if that village lets junkies hang out, guess what kids are going to become.

We are a product of our surroundings, and there is no need to advertise drug use. You mention you happened to be loaded when you were doing such and such thing, fine, not much harm, but spamming threads about getting fucked up and partying in event scheduling is overboard. Making a thread about this pill you just discovered and popped is overboard. No need for that on a forum for a kids game, even if there are plenty of adults here.

Even teens who think they can make the correct decisions are affected by it.

I'm sure there are plenty of forums for users where they can speak as freely as they want, this isn't the forum for it.

 

[Sneakypants]

It is about censorship. Obviously Excal is not metally fit. If he's given the opportunity to prove it, he hurts nobody but himself. If someone reads his posts, and that someone happens to be "on the fence" about doing drugs, I gotta believe they'll stay sober. There are good reasons for letting retards speak their mind, as an added benefit to not censoring harmless topics.

 

[Morwen]

Meeze is right, it does take a village. I don't exactly believe in censorship of this sort either, but I do believe in common sense.

Why not make an age limited forum? You can shove all the NSFW and 18+ content in there. Excalibur can say all the stupid shit for attention he wants and the younger members of our boards will be unspoiled by viewing it. I'm not placing the sole blame on him of course, everyone else here has at some point probably enjoyed a thread or participated in one that wasn't exactly PG-13. He's just the biggest idiot I can think of pertaining to this topic atm.

 

[Excalibur]

And Excalibur, I may have missed it, but I've not seen you say you've tried to get your friends of crack, best friend ever.Seriously. I'm only 20 and I've had to bury too many friends since we left school, seriously, try and sort them out. I'm not sure folks will want your Gcube now they probably think you want drugs money for it.

Yeah, the only people I know that have done crack have only tried it a few times, they don't do it anymore, so they really don't need straightening out. The only people I know that use drugs on a regular basis do pot or meth. Most of them are willing to try other things, do other things ocassionaly, but like I said, I don't know any addicts.

EDIT: In light of a bunch of people bitching at me lately, and me thinking about what they had to say(minus all the derogatory comments), I've joined a forum whose sole purpose is the discussion of drugs. I thought about it and decided this community has way too many "innocent" people for it to be worth posting a topic about drugs, what with all the bitching and shit people do around here. So no more DXM-like topics from me. Now I'm not saying I'll never mention drugs again, it's a part of who I am, that would be like asking me not to mention video games or metal, but I won't create anymore topics for the sole purpose of idea exchange on the subject of drugs.
I'm sure some of you will still bitch at this post, but let it be known that I took the high road - me, the disgusting drug using idiot.

 

[Darkdante]

It was an apology, not me expressing my interest in such with you. If you read really closely, you may indeed see that I said that my posting while enjoying a glass of liquor was highly hypocritical.

Oh wait, you didn't have to read any fine print to see that. My bad.

What does the reasoning have to do with it?
So it's ok to talk about drugs if your saying "don't do it" but it's not ok to talk about drugs if your saying "I'm cool" ?

I'm sure some kid is saying right now:

"Mistra sounds like my father, he tells me not to do stuff but then he goes and does it himself"

"If Mistra can do it now so can I"

"If I ever fuck up I can come on here say that I was intoxicated, and everybody will forgive me, drugs are a cool copout, I can do dumbshit and everybody will forgive me"

Basically your saying if you do drugs nobody needs to hear it, espeically someplace children could actually read it or hear it, meaning everywhere. Stick to your story, and stop corrupting the minds of those easily influenced.

And Your Welcome in advanced for making sure you don't appear on these boards to be a drug user and being allowed to get away with it, and looking cool.

 

[Grem]

You either don't pay attention at all, dislike reading, or are just plain stupid. This isn't a battle of "Who's penis is bigger?" Jesus christ.

20 pages. *laze*

 

[Mistra]

What does the reasoning have to do with it?
So it's ok to talk about drugs if your saying "don't do it" but it's not ok to talk about drugs if your saying "I'm cool" ?

I'm sure some kid is saying right now:

"Mistra sounds like my father, he tells me not to do stuff but then he goes and does it himself"

"If Mistra can do it now so can I"

"If I ever fuck up I can come on here say that I was intoxicated, and everybody will forgive me, drugs are a cool copout, I can do dumbshit and everybody will forgive me"

Basically your saying if you do drugs nobody needs to hear it, espeically someplace children could actually read it or hear it, meaning everywhere. Stick to your story, and stop corrupting the minds of those easily influenced.

And Your Welcome in advanced for making sure you don't appear on these boards to be a drug user and being allowed to get away with it, and looking cool.

And you apparently can't read either, as this is probably the most unintelligent garbage I have seen so far. I am not a drug user. This topic, even in the later prose, was about stopping the unnecessary solicitation of those that endulge in illegal substances. Eventually, it turned into a rather productive topic between those that use them, and those that do not, and their opinions and stances. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

What started as my desire to not see pictures of Chuash taking hits off of a bong, and seeing how and where I could buy coricoden and use it, as well as attempt to safeguard young, impressionable people from seeing these and suddenly becoming curious prematurely, quickly turned into something else.
The topic was about illegal or abused substances, that could cause bad habits in adolescents being openly solicited for all to see.

I am of legal age to drink. I did not come and spout, or over-proclaim "Hey look at me, I was SO DRUNK LAST NIGHT AND IT WAS SO FUCKING AWESOME MAN, HAHA, HERE'S A PICTURE OF ME DRINKING, AND HOW TO DO IT UNDERAGE." Are you seriously that fucking ignorant? Or do you merely just like to try and cause a commotion? I gave a personal apology for my attack on Excalibur, because it was uncalled for. Yes, I was enjoying a generous glass of whiskey that evening, and something had stirred my mood apparently. I did it legally, and nowhere near the point of falling on the floor or being incoherent, as you can clearly see in the post.

Christ man, pay attention. If you want to attempt to call someone out so bad, at least do it with some diligence and integrity. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong, and that's exactly what that was, an admission of being wrong. To this day I have never abused a substance, also noted earlier in the thread. That goes for things legal, and illegal.

Additionally, I truly have nothing against those that do what they do and keep it on a private and educated means. This wasn't a thread to issue a death warrant to anyone and everyone who has ever done an illegal drug in their life, it was me, and others not wishing to read about it, and others that had their own opinions, all respectably stated. People disagree in both regards, and the general consensus was to agree to disagree, and in the end, I agree with that.

 

[Darkdante]

Whos' fucking ignorant?

You think alcohol is not a drug or an abused substance?

It sure is easy to point the finger at somebody else without looking at yourself first isn't it?

 

[Mistra]

Whos' fucking ignorant?

You think alcohol is not a drug or an abused substance?

It sure is easy to point the finger at somebody else without looking at yourself first isn't it?

Jesus christ pay attention man. Alcohol is legal at a certain age. Of course it's an abused substance, anything can virtually be an abused substance. Did I ever say, anywhere, that I abuse alcohol? I don't even need to justify to you my infrequent enjoyment of alcoholic beverages. It's legal. I won't even attempt to explain anything in finer light than that, you are apparently too ignorant to understand.

Actually, I take it back. I'll add some more to this. Personal insults aside, please pay attention and quit the rabble-rousing. You're preaching unrealistically, without paying attention to a damn thing.

You think alcohol is not a drug or an abused substance?

Did I ever once say that I disbelieved alcohol was not an abused substance? Ever once?

It sure is easy to point the finger at somebody else without looking at yourself first isn't it?

Looking at myself in what regard? Did I come on here preaching that anyone who uses a drug was a bad or horrible person? People do things as learning experiences. Myself, and many others have stated that it there's nothing ambiguous about a user who becomes someone who frequently abuses these substances to the point where they cannot carry out normal living function in daily life due to addiction. Furthermore, I don't globally advertise pictures of me drinking, when I drink, my enjoyment from it, or anything else. Further more, I don't substantiate my use with a child's glory of doing something "wrong" or bad, which was my issue with Chuash posting his "I BEAT MARIO HIGH!!!!" thread. It's global communication in the respect that it's not needed. As Meeze so elegantly stated earlier, people have their vices. The offense was, that these vices are advertised in illicit manners that attract younger, more impressionable audiences to the deed. It doesn't need to be there, and that's my opinion. Others that disagree with that opinion expressed as much, which is where I say that universally those interested in the topic have come to a common ground in that censorship would not do much in this manner. If people wish to label themselves by posting crap like that, by all means, it was very smartly stated by many that in this respect they dig their own graves.

Whos' fucking ignorant?

I'll be among the many to say, that my words express no form of ignorance. When you come here, and attempt an attack of some sort on me for having a drink on an evening, and apologizing the very next morning after reading something that was totally out of context that I typed, it really shows lack of class. It's really lackluster to see someone so indignent in this way.

That's all I have for you bud. Continue to agressively push forward with your accusations, I really don't think you'll find much in the way of productivity in doing so. Either way, I'm done dealing with your unintelligence. Do what you will.

 

[Darkdante]

Jesus christ pay attention man. Alcohol is legal at a certain age. Of course it's an abused substance, anything can virtually be an abused substance. Did I ever say, anywhere, that I abuse alcohol? I don't even need to justify to you my infrequent enjoyment of alcoholic beverages. It's legal. I won't even attempt to explain anything in finer light than that, you are apparently too ignorant to understand.

I say you abuse alcohol, and you proved it right here on this board by saying dumb shit that you felt you needed to apologize for. Had you not abused said drug you would not have lost self-control and felt compelled to apologize for posting in your drug crazed state.

Everybody is an angel in thier own eyes. Take yourself for instance.

Did I ever once say that I disbelieved alcohol was not an abused substance? Ever once?

I am not a drug user.

The topic was about illegal or abused substances, that could cause bad habits in adolescents being openly solicited for all to see.

All of this was your response to me accusing you of abusing alcohol. I am on topic, but your accusing me of not being on topic, when I accuse you of abusing alcohol. Are you saying Alcohol is not an abused substance? I dunno what the hell your trying to say here, you tell me. Why even put that sentence in the arguement? Why did you feel compelled to say the topic was about abused substances when I'm accusing you of using an abused substance?

It sure looks like your trying to paint a picture that alcohol is not an abused substance, so you don't look so bad.

My point:

You come on here saying how bad it is to preach about drugs, how showing young people that drugs are cool is in bad taste and that you believe it should be someplace else.

Then you come on here drunk as spit, try to apologize for it, then say your not a drug user, and try to paint yourself as an angel and all these illegall drug users as the bad guys.

YOU CAN'T STOP STUPID SHIT FROM BEING POSTED. Your a prime example of that. You can however as I've stated state your opinion about things by being vocal and educating people about the dangers of drugs.

 

[Darkdante]

Personally I can see your distaste for ILLEGAL drug use. But lets looks at the facts. It's the LEGAL drugs that are far more damaging to far more people.

If you really cared shouldn't you be preaching about the worst drugs known to man first?

Why should legality stand in the way for you to do the right thing?

Alcohol is an abused substance and a drug, and it ruins more people's lives than all the illegal drugs combined. Why is it ok to come on a board full of children in an alcohol crazed state and use it as an excuse for saying dumb stuff but not ok to talk about illegal drugs?

You should have just said your a hypocritical pig and left out the drugs. That would have at least gone in line with your arguement.

 

[Sneakypants]

This topic is a God damned circus. Can we just lock this shit and have specific discussions elsewhere? It's safe to say that nobody is going to be censoring any discussion. As far as douchebags posting pictures of them hitting bongs and trying to show us all how kewl they are, I agree we don't need that. But discussion? Can't fuck wit it. I vote to lock this topic before it gets any more ridiculous and/or off topic.

 

[Morwen]

I think we should just make the age-restricted forum. but meh, I'm sure there would be a ton of work involved in making that happen here.

 

[Sneakypants]

It's not necessary just for discussion. And it's pointless for QCDN to have an age restricted forum just so people have a vehicle to post pics of them ripping tubes. There are, as mentioned, better places and other forums for that very thing.

 

[Excalibur]

This topic is a God damned circus. Can we just lock this shit and have specific discussions elsewhere? It's safe to say that nobody is going to be censoring any discussion. As far as douchebags posting pictures of them hitting bongs and trying to show us all how kewl they are, I agree we don't need that. But discussion? Can't fuck wit it. I vote to lock this topic before it gets any more ridiculous and/or off topic.

Aw cmon, this thread is better than anything goin on in the FB right now.

 

[Sneakypants]

Aw cmon, this thread is better than anything goin on in the FB right now.

No. It's not. The FB sucks. This topic sucks now. You suck. The topic is going in circles, and spinning its wheels. There is nothing else to say.

 

[Morwen]

It's not necessary just for discussion. And it's pointless for QCDN to have an age restricted forum just so people have a vehicle to post pics of them ripping tubes. There are, as mentioned, better places and other forums for that very thing.

I agree that there are better places for these types of topics but it was just a suggestion. I don't think that mods have any right to tell us what we should and should not speak about or commentate on (unless of course its a personal attack, personal information and anything directly against forum rules), but rather it is their job to tell us where we can speak about such things.

Meh, probably just me.

 

[Sneakypants]

I agree that there are better places for these types of topics but it was just a suggestion. I don't think that mods have any right to tell us what we should and should not speak about or commentate on (unless of course its a personal attack, personal information and anything directly against forum rules), but rather it is their job to tell us where we can speak about such things.

Meh, probably just me.

Probably.

Do you really need a mod to tell you that Off-Topic and Reality Sinks In are really the only two places (save private LS forums, and the FB of course) that should be used to discuss drugs?

Less hand-holding, please. Mods should deal with problem posts/posters on an individual basis, and assume the rest of us actually know what the fuck we're talking about.

 

[Morwen]

Probably.

Do you really need a mod to tell you that Off-Topic and Reality Sinks In are really the only two places (save private LS forums, and the FB of course) that should be used to discuss drugs?

Less hand-holding, please. Mods should deal with problem posts/posters on an individual basis, and assume the rest of us actually know what the fuck we're talking about.

That's great but I don't think that people should be unallowed to speak about their lives and what they do with it in 'Reality Sinks In' just because the post happens to contain something unsuitable for -18. That type of censorship is unnecessary in this setting. If they have the ability to create a forum where adults that enjoy this site, have friends here and like to frequent here more than other boards, I think that they should.

This isn't hand-holding, its keeping content that is less suitable for children away from them. I agree that there are some posters on here that take it way too far, but then there are ones that comment on such things that have a lot of useful information. Pros and cons of usage, etc., that could easily deter a curious underager away from the usage of such substances. I think omiting the presence of the posts is a good idea, removing it to a secluded area and not right in the front of little 14 year old Timmy's eyes. However, limiting free-speech on a message board is something that I do not agree with.

I said before that I do not agree with censorship, but common sense. I think that not limiting your forum users and allowing them to do so (if they are of the requirement, in this case: age) in a specified area (much like a smoking section, shall we say) shielded from the eyes of children/preteens/jailbait/delinquents is more common sense. If you take away the freedom of what we can say on here, there will probably be unrest and less users. Mods will undoubtedly have to ban/kick more people from the site and we will ultimately fail at QCDN and flock elsewhere, uninhibited by those that wish to control with rules and an iron fist, rather than behaving as adults in response to adult things.

Like I said before, it might just be me.