I think the economy is fine.
Devi said:If prices keep going up...then I'm boned....I barely make enough gil as it is to get by. And I really hate having to farm/mine/fish etc. If the econmy get too bad it'll be /goodbye time. ; ;
Martial Slacks...were 30kish, now they are like 20k...Direwolf said:Its inflation, every day thier are more fishing bots and more people buy gil online. It happens SE does not give a shit. This is the result, prices of NM things go up, prices of general crafting materials go down. Look for ANY NM drop that has DECREASED in the last month or so and damn... you get a cookie for sure. Some things have increased more then others, Leapin Lizard boots come to mind, I believe they are 300k and Emperor Hairpin is at 400.
/sarcasm But everyone makes gil of fishing bots so whats the problem everyone just has more gil now /endsarcasm. Yea so if you are trying to make money legitly you are shafted. Word on the street is NMs are camped to shit these day by the Chinese, and the Mexicans are working in Gusgen mines driving out competition (Tusk and friends are Spanish speaking so I say Mexico, but hey I could be wrong). Of course the items from HNMs is going to skyrocket.
As much as we don't like either of those, sadly (or luckily) neither causes inflation. Inflation occurs whenever gil is created, be it killing a goblin and he drops gil, selling items to an npc vendor, completing rank missions and getting a hefty reward (eg:6 people finishing rank 10 get 100k each). Those all put more gil into the economy causing inflation. My other two examples also could result in inflation, such as the armor bug from CoP where people could buy it from an npc and sell it back to an npc for a profit. In my other example having a great number of poorer players migrate would causing inflation in that their is more money circulating among fewer people than before (average gil per person went up). FFXI comes with many money sinks to counter this inflation such as chocobos, spells + armor from npcs, and definitly dynamsis (1mill a pop out of the economy). When you get more money coming in than the money sinks take out, we get inflation as we are seeing. No where in there does botting or selling gil come into play since neither of those are creating gil (unless you are selling your botted fish to an npc like people did with those padded caps before the patch).Its inflation, every day thier are more fishing bots and more people buy gil online.
OniTatsujin said:Martial Slacks...were 30kish, now they are like 20k...
Devi said:HNM LSs are not real LSs they are there for profit. No one in an HNM LS is gonna give anyone a non-ex drop. It goes up to AH and the cash is split up for all those invlovled.
Shia said:Serklet is a money maker HNMLS that can be done in less than 6 people with the right combination. Having a complete loser fucktard such as Ailove who even uses mpk to steal the mob clearly shows its for profit. NAfireblade might be different but most HNMLS in this server are not kind enough to do so.
The claw can be dropped from Amikiri in Gustav, Serklet, Genbu and I believe one more which the name escapes me. Yes some items are getting more and more expensive. Reason is easy, people pay the gil which is setted by the crafter or farmer. If you stop buying then the prices will go down due to overflow of materials / products. Here is where the gil buy / sell kicks in. When people buy 4million and buy the harness, or claw then the crafter or the claw seller will up the price. Hence now its 5 million.
Some other items that gone up: Emp hairpin, Ochiudo kote, Pallas bracers, Sniper rings/Archer rings, Kraken club etc etc. As long as people buy it for the given price, it will never go down but up.
Damita said:Sneakypants said:Damita said:Sneakypants said:Work on crafting and questing the items...
If you can create the scorpion harness, I'm sure the going rate rising isn't a bad thing for you.
Oh yeah it is... The claw costs more than you can sell a normal harness for... Only way to make money is to HQ it or to inflate the price. :shock
Riiiight, so go camp the bastard and get the claw. Yes it's not easy. But choose your path. Don't complain about both paths. Buy or craft...Or leave.
Eh, guess you missed my point.
From a crafter's point of view, I want the harness to cost more.![]()
I want it to cost at least as much as the materials, but then again lots of things aren't this way.
Devi said:Shia said:Serklet is a money maker HNMLS that can be done in less than 6 people with the right combination. Having a complete loser fucktard such as Ailove who even uses mpk to steal the mob clearly shows its for profit. NAfireblade might be different but most HNMLS in this server are not kind enough to do so.
The claw can be dropped from Amikiri in Gustav, Serklet, Genbu and I believe one more which the name escapes me. Yes some items are getting more and more expensive. Reason is easy, people pay the gil which is setted by the crafter or farmer. If you stop buying then the prices will go down due to overflow of materials / products. Here is where the gil buy / sell kicks in. When people buy 4million and buy the harness, or claw then the crafter or the claw seller will up the price. Hence now its 5 million.
Some other items that gone up: Emp hairpin, Ochiudo kote, Pallas bracers, Sniper rings/Archer rings, Kraken club etc etc. As long as people buy it for the given price, it will never go down but up.
Well put Shia, see SneakyPants that's what I was saying, that while NAFB may be speacial, the majority of HNMLSs are for profit. And Shia's right about the AH too, as long as you'll pay 4mil+ it'll sell for 4mil+