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Rdm/blm/whm relic gives a "refresh effect" which is i think 1mp per tic
 
I *think* all refresh effects are only 1mp/tick.
 
CmdrFly said:
I *think* all refresh effects are only 1mp/tick.
HQ Dalmatica is 2mp/tick
 
Taurothar said:
Except RDM Relic hat, I think you're right.

Marajade said:
HQ Dalmatica is 2mp/tick

Whoa... hold on. Assuming Duelist's Chapeau is 2, and Dalm+1 is 2, that means RDM could technically get as high as 14mp/tick with a brd. Sound about right? That's friggin disgusting.

edit: make that... 17 with a relic brd.
 
CmdrFly said:
edit: make that... 17 with a relic brd.

I hope that by 17 you mean 18...
Gjallahorn gives +2 in every song, so ballad 1 = 3/tick
ballad 2 = 4/tick...



On topic, thanks for the response guys, i had an offer last night from a Jp player (very nice guy actually), for 10m, i ended up not selling...

Cheers
 
CmdrFly said:
Whoa... hold on. Assuming Duelist's Chapeau is 2, and Dalm+1 is 2, that means RDM could technically get as high as 14mp/tick with a brd. Sound about right? That's friggin disgusting.

edit: make that... 17 with a relic brd.
rdm refresh 3=3
brd with horn is 3+4X2 with 2hr = 14
cor is 2 or 3 with smn=3
hat is 2=2

22
edit if u can wear dam+1 in another slot then be 24 whats cure2 every 3 seconds for free
 
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Dejan said:
I hope that by 17 you mean 18...
Yeah I probably miscounted. Sorry to continue the derail but I'm thinking right now and that don't happen often. Lessee...

2 Chapeau
2 Dalm+1
6 2hr'd Ballad II
4 2hr'd Ballad I
3 Refresh
1 /SMN or /PLD (I didn't say that this rig was feasible, just disgusting in terms of mp/tick)

So yeah 18... did I make the calcs for 2hr'd & relic'd Ballads right? I presume that Soul Voice doubles the effect before instrument bonuses.
 
for those who fail at math

if I assume this info is correct on gear that gives 2 per tic then

2 for AF2
2 for dalm+1
3X2+4X2=14 for brd with relic horn using 2 hour
1 for subing pld or smn
3 for rdm refresh
3 from COR (I'm not sure if that's the best a cor can do)

so that's 25 mp per tic max, but um good luck getting that to happen and subbing smn or pld probably isn't worth it. you'll need 2 of the rarest and most prized mage items in the game as well as a brd with a relic horn.

18 without brd 2 hour but with a relic horn

14 per tic with a normal brd without 2 hour

13 if you don't use /pld or /smn really who subs smn or pld very often, they are rather gimp for most situations

10 if the cor busts or you don't have one really 3 support jobs in one party is a bit much.

7 if you are alone

3 if you are like 99% of rdms and don't have those items
 
Duelist chaparu is +1 refresh. Not seen personaly, but this is the first time I ever heard someone say its +2

Made myself a guarden bangles once, sold it since a 1 HP tic is not vary useful for only half the day. Too bad only people with a load of gil, and nothing usful to buy to buy a novalty item.
 
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Hey, guys. Sup Refresh Sanction, another +1. Also, Mistilteinn gives 1 mp in exchange for 3 TP every 3 seconds.
 
An 11 roll from corsair gives 4mp/tic, 5 with a smn in the pt.
 
I'm not sure... But I don't think you can stack refresh on gear.
 
Eliott said:
I'm not sure... But I don't think you can stack refresh on gear.


You can. Easily testable with a Paladin with Vermillion Robe and Hercules' Ring.
 
Skaw said:
You can. Easily testable with a Paladin with Vermillion Robe and Hercules' Ring.

I stand corrected.
 
Dualist Chapau + Dalmatica + Sanction(Refresh) + /SMN = Always a crowd pleaser

And I am almost possitive that this is true:
Mariox said:
Duelist chaparu is +1 refresh. Not seen personaly, but this is the first time I ever heard someone say its +2
I've been in both alliances and PT's with RDMs that had chapau and even one with a Dualist +1 and it only ever granted 1mp/tick

And just my perspective on the bow vs. VIT shell:
+4 VIT does nothing between pulls, auto-regen will always be usefull (even if minimally) for those times you're just standing there, much like how PLD will swap in the vermillion cloak.
 
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CmdrFly said:
Yeah I probably miscounted. Sorry to continue the derail but I'm thinking right now and that don't happen often. Lessee...

2 Chapeau
2 Dalm+1
6 2hr'd Ballad II its 2+2 from relic = 4 hred = 8
4 2hr'd Ballad I 1+2=3x2 =6
3 Refresh
1 /SMN or /PLD (I didn't say that this rig was feasible, just disgusting in terms of mp/tick)

So yeah 18... did I make the calcs for 2hr'd & relic'd Ballads right? I presume that Soul Voice doubles the effect before instrument bonuses.
fixed
 
Bigboy said:
Dualist Chapau + Dalmatica + Sanction(Refresh) + /SMN = Always a crowd pleaser

The real question is, why would a RDM ever sub SMN.
 
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