Firestreak said:I can stick my FF12 into my PS3!
Only because youre american, the rest of us cant
Firestreak said:I can stick my FF12 into my PS3!
meeze said:sony machine is superior in every way (even if blu ray ends up being the next laser disc). 360 is a far superior machine.
Firestreak said:You're right! If you put the Gamecube version of Zelda next to the Wii version of Zelda they AREN'T identical!
There's no innovation in that there was no brand new technology, true; but the innovation is in the application of that technology to let you do new things, and that's why the Wii is a shitload more innovative than 360/PS3. This was brought up months ago, so I'm not going to rehash it.meeze said:I didn't mean durability, I was speaking on whats inside, the technology. Regardless if you hate sony or not, their machine is superior in every way (even if blu ray ends up being the next laser disc). 360 is a far superior machine.
It is a normal marketing strat to lose money, look at all the free cell phones out there, do you really think there 0$ cost on those?
I'd be concerned that on a new technology, Nintendo is still pulling a profit, with the lowest cost machine out there. It just shows they jammed old technology and gave you nunchucks, painted all white and sent the fan boys home drooling.
There is no inovation there, motion sensor isn't new, to consoles yes, but it's been around for at least 5 years.
Sony and Microsoft are taking a chance on their machine, that takes balls. Losing money because you believe your system will deliver the best graphics and gaming line up that the public will love.
The whole "nintendo loves their fans so they don't make us pay more" stuff is getting retarded.
Halifirien said:Technically, they're not identical. The Wii version has support for widescreen televsions and the Gamecube doesn't. The Wii Zelda is also a mirror image, so the layout of Hyrule is reversed from what we know from Ocarina of Time. Admittedly, those are minor differences.
Slam it as a launch title all you want, but it sold plenty of Wii systems. Nintendo released it a month or two before the Gamecube version for that very reason and it paid off in spades.
I bought the Gamecube version because I didn't have a Wii at the time, but even now I'd rather have the 'cube version because I can't imagine how shaking the controller to swing the sword could be more effective than just pressing a button, even with lock-on.
Bajaratt said:Nintendo has a different marketing strategy and it's blatantly obvious that it's a very successful one.
Yeah, I'm an idiot for not throwing away $600 on a console with features I'll never use and the console itself won't even be worth it for at least a year; yeah that's real fucking dumb, basing my purchases on the amount of enjoyment I'd get out of them. :wacko:Firestreak said:Congratulations, you're idiots, Nintendo picked up on the fact that you're idiots and sold you based on that. Why not praise them some more for that?
Bajaratt said:Yeah, I'm an idiot for not throwing away $600 on a console with features I'll never use and the console itself won't even be worth it for at least a year; yeah that's real fucking dumb, basing my purchases on the amount of enjoyment I'd get out of them. :wacko:
Go jack off to your PS3 as it fails more.
Edit: you didn't like Zelda because the quests at the beginning of the game stumped you, that doesn't make the people who enjoyed the game idiots. It was a launch title, yeah, better graphics would have been nice; but that doesn't change that it was a great game that people enjoyed.
Bajaratt said:Yeah, I'm an idiot for not throwing away $600 on a console with features I'll never use and the console itself won't even be worth it for at least a year; yeah that's real fucking dumb, basing my purchases on the amount of enjoyment I'd get out of them. :wacko:
Go jack off to your PS3 as it fails more.
Edit: you didn't like Zelda because the quests at the beginning of the game stumped you, that doesn't make the people who enjoyed the game idiots. It was a launch title, yeah, better graphics would have been nice; but that doesn't change that it was a great game that people enjoyed.
Lanien said:I love how people love to argue numbers.
Oh, and don't buy a PS3 now. They are making a new version.
Uzor said:LOL, I like the original song "How to stay alive"... this one was awesome though xD
Uzor said:I'd prefer buying it now to get a version able to play PS2 and PS1 games, then to buy a new one only able to play PS3 games. I dunno about you, though...
I ment that, I don't know what I were thinking when I wrote that ~.~Shyrra said:It's "How to save a life" you noob :/
I <3 that song.
The current PS3 have 98% backwards compatibility. Sony said in thsi interview though:Well the newer version emulates by software, which will theoretically allow it to upscale ps2 games and DVD movies. Downside is it's got a lot less backwards compatible games working for it yet, although still more than 360's got working for Xbox. Current version has 99% of the games working.
We'll see what March firmware brings though.
Basically, yes. They will make it emulate by software instead, which will make it support less games, and make them run slower and more laggy. Doesn't sound like a very good deal. I can only imagine they need to save money, which is why they chose to go down this route.Sony Computer Entertainment Europe has announced a hardware revision for its Playstation 3 devices when they launch in Europe on March 23. The European version will have its PS2 chip removed, and software emulation will take over for most of the PS2 functionality. This means that very few PS2 discs will work with the new PS3.
"The backwards compatibility is not going to be as good as the U.S. and Japan models," said a spokesperson from Sony. Currently the North American and Japanese models have the PS2 chip installed, which allows them to play 98 percent of old games.
"PS3 is first and foremost a system that excels in playing games specifically designed to exploit the power and potential of the PS3 system," said David Reeves, President of SCEE. "Games designed for PS3 offer incredible graphics quality, stunning gameplay and massively improved audio and video fidelity that is simply not achievable with PS and PS2 games. Rather than concentrate on PS2 backwards compatibility, in the future, company resources will be increasingly focused on developing new games and entertainment features exclusively for PS3, truly taking advantage of this exciting technology."
"Sony is managing expectations by saying now that the new console will play fewer of the old games, and that's a good thing," said analyst Alex Kwiatowski at British market research group Vertical Market Technologies. "I'm as disappointed as the next game player about the reduced backward compatibility, but even the most nostalgic, misty-eyed gamers will have their steely hearts impressed by the new features that PS3 games provide."
Speculation is abound on whether or not this new version of PS3 will find its way to North America next. 1UP contacted Sony Computer Entertainment America for some answers. "We have no announcement regarding any hardware specification changes for PS3 in North America at this time," they were told by a company representative.
Sony will be offering regular downloadable firmware updates from the Playstation Network and via PS3 game discs as of March 23, launch day. However, European gamers will need to hang onto their PS2 systems if they want to continue playing their favorite PS2 games.
Gamers will be able to view a list of titles online that are compatible with the PS3, but the site will not go live until launch. No compatible titles have been announced so far, so it is uncertain what the actual number is. Check back with RPGamer for more information on this story as it becomes available.