Question to other Dynamis LS's

meeze said:
If you've read Metas posts in the past, you know he's full of shit.

I've read his posts in the past and I haven't seen any shit there really.

From things in this thread... He has pointed out that you should take things on the safe side when you have to ensure win for some members for example. Clearing ALL pre-boss mobs before going to mobs is an unnecessary risk, as accidents can and do happen which could leave a member locked out from scheduled northland runs.
He also pointed out that you can clear zones fast assuming special job distribution wherein you don't have to consider a lot of things that you have to in larger setups with a widespread job distribution.

How is that being full of shit? Please explain.
 
Nyaano said:
I've read his posts in the past and I haven't seen any shit there really.

From things in this thread... He has pointed out that you should take things on the safe side when you have to ensure win for some members for example. Clearing ALL pre-boss mobs before going to mobs is an unnecessary risk, as accidents can and do happen which could leave a member locked out from scheduled northland runs.
He also pointed out that you can clear zones fast assuming special job distribution wherein you don't have to consider a lot of things that you have to in larger setups with a widespread job distribution.

How is that being full of shit? Please explain.

He jumped into this thread accusing a poster of being arrogant and elitist, when in fact, that poster was just correcting a different poster that zones couldn't be cleared with time left on the clock.

His "interpretation" of this posters remark comes from a deep seeded hatred for the posters LS.

I'll pretty much end this argument there unless you feel I should keep on going.
 
meeze said:
He jumped into this thread accusing a poster of being arrogant and elitist, when in fact, that poster was just correcting a different poster that zones couldn't be cleared with time left on the clock.

His "interpretation" of this posters remark comes from a deep seeded hatred for the posters LS.

I'll pretty much end this argument there unless you feel I should keep on going.

Why metachronism joined the thread is pretty irrelevant, but unless I'm mistaken he starts with #40 in this thread.
Starting there and reading up to #45, I can't see any accusations against Courtney. What I do see is Courtney missing the points that were being made.

Since you are arguing that meta "jumped into this thread accusing a poster", this would be the section you'd use to prove that claim...

Feel free to include up to #48 if you like, even if those doesn't really help your case at all.
Or maybe even include your own "contributions" like #50? Or back up your #52 with some actual proof?

Actually... before you do, maybe you should work on your reading comprehension for a bit. Maybe you'd see your mistakes then.
 
metachronism said:
When someone descends upon a thread just to brag (that's basically what it comes down to)

Here, meta tells you in post 51 what he came in the thread for, because she was "bragging". I wasn't the only person who came to the conclusion that meta was jumping down courtney's throat, look at Rappas post.

Not exactly sure who you are, but it's obvious you are new to the boards, so I'll give you a pass, unless of course, Metas own words aren't enough proof.
 
And since you're gonna play stupid, everyone asked meta where courtney bragged, and all he could up with was....well, the quote of courtneys saying her LS can clear dynamis with x number of minutes left.

Now, that could be construed as bragging, except for the fact that courtneys quote came from a post that quoted deci as saying you CAN'T clear dynamis and have time remaining. Then Meta even said it could be done, and BELIEVE him, he knows LSs that can do it.

I guess knowing LSs isn't bragging, but being a part of an LS that can is. Meta is an idiot, read his post history, he's consistently attacked on the most stupid ideas like why NAs are such assholes for checking JP (even though there is a filter JP can use to not even know they are being checked).
 
meeze said:
Here, meta tells you in post 51 what he came in the thread for, because she was "bragging". I wasn't the only person who came to the conclusion that meta was jumping down courtney's throat, look at Rappas post.

Not exactly sure who you are, but it's obvious you are new to the boards, so I'll give you a pass, unless of course, Metas own words aren't enough proof.

#51 was clearly in reaction to yours and Rappas posts after "meta vs courtney".
Where in #40-#45 was anything said that backs up your #52 post? What, if anything, was the point of your #50?

I see meta try to end the discussion, then Courtney fanning the flames, then Rappa and you adding fuel to the fire.
 
Nyaano said:
#51 was clearly in reaction to yours and Rappas posts after "meta vs courtney".
Where in #40-#45 was anything said that backs up your #52 post? What, if anything, was the point of your #50?

I see meta try to end the discussion, then Courtney fanning the flames, then Rappa and you adding fuel to the fire.

Rappa asks, why do you flame everywhere you go.

Meta: well, if someone is just going to brag.

How hard is it for you to figure out why he attacked courtney?
 
Oh, you're in his dynamis LS...well, so are a lot of people who post here. people who post here often, people who haven't posted in this thread...do you see where this is going?

Even people in his own LS know he's full of shit and aren't touching this thread with a 10 foot pole.
 
meeze said:
Rappa asks, why do you flame everywhere you go.

Meta: well, if someone is just going to brag.

How hard is it for you to figure out why he attacked courtney?

And again I ask you what part of the #40-#45 section was this attack?
 
meeze said:
Oh, you're in his dynamis LS...well, so are a lot of people who post here. people who post here often, people who haven't posted in this thread...do you see where this is going?

Even people in his own LS know he's full of shit and aren't touching this thread with a 10 foot pole.

You haven't considered the possibility that they don't care to be attacked because they are of a different opinion than you are, and therefore don't post in the thread?

Again I ask you to to provide the attack that you allege meta made in posts in #40-#45 section. If you can't, just say so and let this discussion end.
 
Nyaano said:
You haven't considered the possibility that they don't care to be attacked because they are of a different opinion than you are, and therefore don't post in the thread?

Again I ask you to to provide the attack that you allege meta made in posts in #40-#45 section. If you can't, just say so and let this discussion end.
Why are you only focusing on 5 posts in a thread with 250 posts in it? In those 5 posts, maybe he wasn't posting bullshit, or flame baiting. Since that's apparently where you stopped reading, I can kind of see your position, but when you're ignoring 80% of the thread(assuming you read up to post 45 as well), making those kind of claims just makes you look foolish.
 
Bajaratt said:
Why are you only focusing on 5 posts in a thread with 250 posts in it? In those 5 posts, maybe he wasn't posting bullshit, or flame baiting. Since that's apparently where you stopped reading, I can kind of see your position, but when you're ignoring 80% of the thread(assuming you read up to post 45 as well), making those kind of claims just makes you look foolish.

Selective reading is the in-thing to do on qcdn, duh.

OP needs to rename this thread "The Home of the Worst Argument in the History of Mankind".
 
Nyaano said:
You haven't considered the possibility that they don't care to be attacked because they are of a different opinion than you are, and therefore don't post in the thread?

Again I ask you to to provide the attack that you allege meta made in posts in #40-#45 section. If you can't, just say so and let this discussion end.

Listen up dumbshit. Rappa asked why he always. Metas direct response was because courtney started bragging.

Meta himself tells you with his own words he attacked courtney. How far is your face up his ass that you can't see that?

And as for the people not coming in here because they disagree with me...that is the point of this board, and they frequent this board, yet no one is standing behind meta for his ass backwards pov, except for the person I see sucking the farts out of his ass.
 
Bajaratt said:
Why are you only focusing on 5 posts in a thread with 250 posts in it? In those 5 posts, maybe he wasn't posting bullshit, or flame baiting. Since that's apparently where you stopped reading, I can kind of see your position, but when you're ignoring 80% of the thread(assuming you read up to post 45 as well), making those kind of claims just makes you look foolish.

Apparently you missed to read a few posts yourself...
In #238 I point out that Bigboy is calling bullshit without even reading the posts.
#240-#241 resulted in
"He jumped into this thread accusing a poster of being arrogant and elitist, when in fact, that poster was just correcting a different poster that zones couldn't be cleared with time left on the clock." from mezee.
The #40-#45 was where meta "jumped into this thread" and I asked WHERE in THOSE posts these alleged attacks took place. To this moment that question has been left UNANSWERED. Unanswered because no such accusations were made in those posts maybe?

To mezee: Don't go around and say people are full of shit when you're full of shit yourself.
 
I'm not going to post more in this thread.
I was reminded of an old saying: "Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their own level and beat you with experience."

Good bye.
 
Nyaano said:
I'm not going to post more in this thread.
I was reminded of an old saying: "Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their own level and beat you with experience."

Good bye.

Guess you figured out Meta admitted to bashing Courtney for acting "elitist". Glad to see you figured that much out.
 
Nyaano said:
Apparently you missed to read a few posts yourself...
In #238 I point out that Bigboy is calling bullshit without even reading the posts.
#240-#241 resulted in
"He jumped into this thread accusing a poster of being arrogant and elitist, when in fact, that poster was just correcting a different poster that zones couldn't be cleared with time left on the clock." from mezee.
The #40-#45 was where meta "jumped into this thread" and I asked WHERE in THOSE posts these alleged attacks took place. To this moment that question has been left UNANSWERED. Unanswered because no such accusations were made in those posts maybe?

To mezee: Don't go around and say people are full of shit when you're full of shit yourself.
You're still saying that in the range of 5 posts, that metachronism didn't attack anyone, ignoring how there's 200 more posts after that where he did. Considering they've been happening throughout the entire thread, asking for a list would result in the numbers of every one of his posts after #45. The fact that you don't know he's been attacking people non-stop means that you didn't read the whole thread, just very small bits and pieces.

So it took him a few posts to start spouting bullshit and making up crap, it doesn't make Meeze's post any less valid.

Nyaano said:
I'm not going to post more in this thread.
I was reminded of an old saying: "Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their own level and beat you with experience."

Good bye.
This is a sign that you've lost, you know you've lost, but you're going to act like you won and retreat. Fairly typical for users of the friend defense.
 
meeze said:
He jumped into this thread accusing a poster of being arrogant and elitist, when in fact, that poster was just correcting a different poster that zones couldn't be cleared with time left on the clock.

His "interpretation" of this posters remark comes from a deep seeded hatred for the posters LS.

I'll pretty much end this argument there unless you feel I should keep on going.

Meeze. Go back to Decidence's first post, and read courtney's response, and how the thread progresses (or doesn't) after that. Despite having explained this over and over, some people just can't read shit. As I said before, I don't even know the people in the said LS, as their significance is rather miniscule outside this forum, and you somehow fail to see that people *gasp* don't really give a shit about them on the server as a whole. If anything, your accusation is an "interpretation" with no evidence to support it.

Decidence said that the zones weren't meant to be just cleared out by a group that is nowhere near the maximum capacity, as the design intent of SE was so that people don't keep running out of mobs every time they go in.

Courtney's response that his LS can do it with time remaining doesn't undermine Decidence's statement in the least because what decidence said remains true. Bottom line, most of the content in the game doesn't have the difficulty level tuned to groups of people who are predominantly of the disproportionately advantaged jobs.

<courtney> my LS can do it in x minutes.
<meta> that's great, but I bet you have a pretty skewed job demographic in your LS, don't you?
<courtney> why, yes we do, but it has nothing to do with it.
<meta> oh really? so you can do the same if you didn't have the job distribution you have?
<courtney> yes, in fact, given the fact that a 30-man LS with extremely selective jobs can clear it in 2 hours, I don't see why a 34-man LS without such a job skew can't do the same.
<meta> *long explanation why that is either a lack of understanding of game mechanics, or is just a show of arrogance.*

Would anyone care to present arguments against the said game mechanics, or do all of you want to just to complain about me because I don't post obsequiously to the people you worship?
 
Courtney said:
One of the Shells I'm in clears Bastok with 55min remaining and Sandy with 30min remaining, with 35-40 people. I'd say with a 64 it would be very possible.

here?
 
decidence said:
Of course people are happier with shorter runs, hell I would be too, but I think SE made it so the best LS's in the game would still have a hard time clearing the zone with a full 3hr run time, this means a full 3hrs of potential Relic drops and currency farming, which is probably better then running out of mobs after 2hrs.

Read this long and hard. He is saying it is better to take 3 hours to farm, then to kill EVERY mob in 2.

That is as stupid a statement as I've seen Deci make.

If you kill EVERY mob in 2 hours, you have done all the farming that can be done. There is no more mobs to fill in that extra hour. That is farming to the maximum potential of that run.

She even asked why he would be opposed to doing the same 3 hour farming in 2 hours.
 
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