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Billy said:
When I first saw Decidence's parses i was like wow, these guys must be really good! but on things that matter other than exp pt parses, these guys are below average. I mean they fucking take almost an hour on fafnir and half an hour to bring down behemoth. I'm sure they will get better eventually, but as of last night purpose is a joke. That darter mistake is the best thing that happened to them, cause it's the perfect scapegoat for their incompetency.
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#1: Theres no such thing as a 1-Man team.
#2: 40mins is not a hour (42mins was our last kill, in comparison the LS you think is so great [Perserverance] last kill took 39mins).
#3: 15mins to kill Behemoth with 4 people...
#4: Darter mistake was made by a member who had just joined the day before, it is not a reflection on the LS's competency.
 
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decidence said:
#1: Theres no such thing as a 1-Man team.
#2: 40mins is not a hour (42mins was our last kill, in comparison Perserverance took 25.)
#3: 30mins to kill Behemoth with 4 people...
#4: Darter mistake was made by a member who had just joined the day before, it is not a reflection on the LS's competency.
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The point is that there's no way to prove if someone's botting. You can say your entire ls is clean, and maybe it is, but unless you're personally watching everyone in your ls there's no way you can say this with any conviction. Your ls can have a "if you bot you're gone" rule (which Purpose and apparently most other lses have), but that isn't going to stop anyone from doing it. The only thing you can do is catch the Heideggers out there who are stupid enough to bot while afk. It sucks, but that's just the way it is until S-E figures out a way to stop people from doing it.
 
Strid said:
Why would I do that? I never said I was complaining nor did I say I cared. Seriously, I'm not sure why you shortbuses still try this one. Had I bought an account, now that would be a good burn. Also, I still play Wow so techinically I can't "go back" to it.
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If you aren't complaining or caring then why would you bother posting about this. You obviously care enough to point out that you know people are botting.
 
Jereme said:
If you aren't complaining or caring then why would you bother posting about this. You obviously care enough to point out that you know people are botting.
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Because I do care about people being Naive on the situation.
 
Strid said:
Because I do care about people being Naive on the situation.
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Every LS has botters whether they like to admit it or not. Theres almost 1000 people with that popular FFXI Multi-Hack that's out there. I've had people personally admit to me that they are using it, we have seen people publically admit to it. I know BoL has cheaters, I know Perserverance has cheaters and I know every other LS including my own most likely has cheaters.

The important thing is that our LS's do it's best to remove these people and make an effort not to encourage them but to throw em out on the street.
 
Jereme said:
Well if you know we have cheaters name them.
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A lot of good that does. Calling out a hacker brings one of two situations that cause more trouble than it's worth... Responce A: Nuh uh, I play on PS2 noob! and their LS believes them because they are friends, obviously and Responce B: a huge fight that ends up in no one being able to show the rest of the community proof so it is a stupid fight they win. What it boils down to is your wanting to know, someone which I myself have never even saw in a game I play mostly 24/7, isn't worth the stink it causes or loosing friends over.
 
So obviously your A) a moron who likes to run his mouth B) someone who likes to start shit with no proof or C) both.
 
Jereme said:
So obviously your A) a moron who likes to run his mouth B) someone who likes to start shit with no proof or C) both.
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It's really hard to take a picture of someone elses open progs when you've never even saw their face before and no matter what someones says in chat, ventrilo, etc they can still get out of it. Proof would be a picture of all programs running with a tool running, you'll never get that unless someone wants to confess. If I enjoyed running my mouth, I'd have given you the names already and be making post that look like yours. You sure seem to taking offense to all of this that really doesn't matter, is there a skeleton in your closet? Calling me names and making crappy post isn't helping your case Champ.
 
Jereme said:
Please I would love you to do that. Also post the windows of your last kill 42 mins.
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Both Purpose and Perserverances last kills on Fafnir took approximately 40 minutes. It's not hard to figure out how long it takes when you have spawn time and take TOD.
 
Strid said:
I know how the claiming works as I'm no rookie camping them. Thanks for your little run down though. I would also like to let you know, partially you're right, but when your squad is outclaiming botting squads RED FLAD goes up. It may happen once in a blue moon but not as often as a few days later.
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lol...I just explained you basically have to guess the random interval in the botting program for it to "work." I don't see how guessing would give any kind of consistent results, especially when your out numbered in claimers by 2-1. But hey, you are Strid. You know everything, including how many people we bring to a camp, and how many they bring to camps. You also seem to be God of %'s and decide when they do and when they do not exsist. 1 of those claims was also a first window pop, which if you know anything, you know if your LS gets there early its the best chance for a claim. I think that first window we had like a 50% chance of claim. But I guess you already knew that, since you apprently know everything.
 
Crosis said:
Both Purpose and Perserverances last kills on Fafnir took approximately 40 minutes. It's not hard to figure out how long it takes when you have spawn time and take TOD.
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lol guys lets drop the silly arguement over kill times, especially last claim...First window claim with like what, 14ish people and basically our first experience with handling Fafnir undermanned, at least in comparison to our last few kills. But hey, after the shock of an early pop after like a million last/reallylate window pops, they went to town on him and it was a relatively smooth fight. And yea, it prolly was about 40 minutes, there was only around 35 people in the entire zone at the time...not like anyone would have atken him down much faster.
 
Zoolander said:
lol...I just explained you basically have to guess the random interval in the botting program for it to "work." I don't see how guessing would give any kind of consistent results, especially when your out numbered in claimers by 2-1. But hey, you are Strid. You know everything, including how many people we bring to a camp, and how many they bring to camps. You also seem to be God of %'s and decide when they do and when they do not exsist. 1 of those claims was also a first window pop, which if you know anything, you know if your LS gets there early its the best chance for a claim. I think that first window we had like a 50% chance of claim. But I guess you already knew that, since you apprently know everything.
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Is it just me or is the entire board membership running rampart this week with "I failed to understand" post? I CLEARLY only said I knew 100% of the shells have people who do bot. How? because I know them or their friends. Then you go posting about how to camp, the number, blah blah blah. What the hell is the matter with this place this week X_x Chill out man you're making no sense and what use to be a kickass dude fade out.
 
in reality this works, it does very well on bahamut. then again bahamut is the perfect example of a server that isn't JP dominated like we're just getting over being
 
Tymon said:
in reality this works, it does very well on bahamut. then again bahamut is the perfect example of a server that isn't JP dominated like we're just getting over being
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I'm not even so sure it has anything to do with domination. The JP where out dominated there early on, like most servers, because people came together. That has failed to happen here. Instead of their being two or three kaizens, per most servers(that all seem to have fun TOGETHER), there is only one here. We have failed to conglmerate with or push out the dominates. As soon as we all start having fun TOGETHER processes such as this will be viable.
 
Strid said:
I'm not even so sure it has anything to do with domination. The JP where out dominated there early on, like most servers, because people came together. That has failed to happen here. Instead of their being two or three kaizens, per most servers(that all seem to have fun TOGETHER), there is only one here. We have failed to conglmerate with or push out the dominates. As soon as we all start having fun TOGETHER processes such as this will be viable.
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there are other shells out there trying for faf right now?
 
Rhaddy said:
there are other shells out there trying for faf right now?
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Trying and doing is two different things. Kaizen is sucessful and consistent with WAY more than just lolFaffy. Anyway, I guess you failed to understand the real meaning of my post as this has nothing to do with it...That's getting old this week =/
 
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