Random jackass of the day

Metachronism, dude, Liquidsnake applogized, accept it and get over it.
Additionally, do you know how the blist works? Just currious.
I would have used the handy little blist feature instead of letting someone rant at me for about an hour as you claim.
But maybe you are a drama-queen, who knows.
Just let it go already, because, you unfortunately are making yourself look like the Jackass by not accepting the applogy.
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Hmm. So now I'm the jackass. I love how these things work.

Yes. I'm aware of the blist. Give me a reason why *I* should have to do something because someone decides to be a total dipshit. Blist also doesn't do anything to stop the subject from stalking you (which was something I didn't bother to mention).

I don't know about you, but Liquidsnake doesn't sound apologetic at all to me. Yeah he says "I'm sorry" but he also continues "I don't care." It's the kind of behavior you seen in grade school kids when they're told to write letters of apology. I sure didn't get an "apology" from him until I made this thread.

And just to clarify, I wasn't offended in the least by the monotonic repetition of his meager vocabulary. I was just appalled by the fact that he knew it would be offensive to people and he kept doing it, even when asked to stop.

His disingenuous apology is worth jack shit. I can accept it in the same way he made the apology--in shape only. However, he's found a nice spot on my personal shitlist, and I will have nothing to do with him in the future.

My point is pretty simple. Don't go around being a rude prick. Apologizing for intentional malice only works up until grade school.
 
metachronism said:
Yes. I'm aware of the blist. Give me a reason why *I* should have to do something because someone decides to be a total dipshit. Blist also doesn't do anything to stop the subject from stalking you (which was something I didn't bother to mention).
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There's really no excuse for demanding something of others if you're not helping yourself.
 
Hmm, what I'm "demanding" is decency. I didn't know it was something I had to obsequiously beg for.

You sound alarmingly similar the people who tell rape victims it was their fault for not doing enough to protect themselves.

I don't see anything that justifies his behavior. I'm not sure why you condone it.
 
metachronism said:
Hmm, what I'm "demanding" is decency. I didn't know it was something I had to obsequiously beg for.

You sound alarmingly similar the people who tell rape victims it was their fault for not doing enough to protect themselves.

I don't see anything that justifies his behavior. I'm not sure why you condone it.
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I wouldn't ever say that.

Your argument is a distortion of degree. You're insulting rape victims by comparing online video game spam to an enactment of physical vulnerability.

Anyway, I don't feel strongly one way or another about your post, but I DO think that after you were offended, nobody can reach into you and pull it out of you; you have to let it go. THAT was more what I had in mind than something as dramatic as a comparison to rape.

If you feel THAT strongly violated by what this guy said, I really am sorry. All I'm suggesting is that there is no fix anyone else can perform for someone's anger. If /blist'ing the guy helps take your mind off it, that should help.

I didn't really intend to get this involved in this post . . . I was just making an observation . . . but I feel like that sort of egregious comparison deserves addressing.
 
I think it's that very "it's just a game" mentality which incites and condones rudeness in the game.

I used a severe real-life example to point out the problem in the logic of your assignment of blame. I don't know why I'm suddenly made out to be the culprit of someone else's misbehavior.

As I indicated before I'm not angered or insulted in the least by *what* he said. I am deeply upset both by his attitude, and attitude of others who somehow feel it's ok to carry on with such behavior.

Really, is what I'm saying so outrageous? I call for decency, and I get naysayers. FF doesn't have to be the vessel for people to vicariously live out the assholes they can't be in real life. Eh, maybe they're assholes in real life too. Who knows.
 
well....

metachronism said:
I think it's that very "it's just a game" mentality which incites and condones rudeness in the game.
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Well, >insert Price is Right Losing sound effect< it is a game and if people are gonna be an ass, you have the power to hit the power button...as it is just a game... Blist him and nvr speak to them...flame the hell out of them but seriously when comparing a GAME which is this to RL especially something like Rape... wowee... so check it...get a chill pill, count to ten... run from east sarutabaruta to feiyin but seriously...you cannot get so pissed cuz of someones attitude..and If things like this gonna get you pissed over and over and constantly...maybe not playing this Game (im reminding you this is still a game) is a good idea... i can imagine going to work pissed and the boss askin is somethin wrong and you say yeah I was campin in FF with my friend and this dood was calling me names for an hour and I was so pissed... and he then askin, this guy was harrasing you when you were camping with your friend.. and you saying no... in the game on my computer.. then a) he will laugh b) drop the coffee c)both d)ask you to be the new store comedian and to end all this crap.... I too know of Liquidsnake and call Bullshit.....
 
metachronism said:
I used a severe real-life example to point out the problem in the logic of your assignment of blame. I don't know why I'm suddenly made out to be the culprit of someone else's misbehavior.

As I indicated before I'm not angered or insulted in the least by *what* he said. I am deeply upset both by his attitude, and attitude of others who somehow feel it's ok to carry on with such behavior.

Really, is what I'm saying so outrageous? I call for decency, and I get naysayers. FF doesn't have to be the vessel for people to vicariously live out the assholes they can't be in real life. Eh, maybe they're assholes in real life too. Who knows.
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I like your call for decency. All I'm saying is that if you're taking up this issue, it is appropriate for you to be part of the solution.

I'm not assigning blame. I don't think you're the culprit of the original situation, but you need to accept the reality of what bringing it to the flameboard does.

You said you shouldn't be expected to use your blacklist, and that you don't accept his apology.

Fair enough. At that point, it's up to you to determine how much you want to pursue this issue. Talk to GM's, talk to the culprit, whatever. Bringing it up to the flameboard may be a way to relieve some of your anxiety or whatever, but you are not going to rally the entire server into decency with a single flame.

As far as I'm concerned, your explicit refusal to take part in your own solution indicates a desire for a pity party, and MAJORLY DETRACTS from your points about the need for decency.

Should people act decently towards each other? Yes.
Do people occasionally NOT? Yes.
Should we try to keep old wounds open and destroy anyone who's ever stepped out of line? Are people who have done something wrong underserving of a second chance?

Your answer to those two would seem to be Yes.

I think you need to ask yourself where the decency in revenge is. Let it go and you'll have my full respect again. Not to mention, if someone WAS trying to hurt you with words, the best defense is to get over it. If someone WASN'T, then there is no reason to stay offended. If you simply think that the apology sucked, ask the guy to level his apologizing skill.

He may have caused the issue, but you're keeping reraise III on it.

And I, for one, don't think you're an asshole.
 
Being called names can NO WAY be compared to rape.
It's apples and oranges, wait it's not even that it's worse...it's apples and butter. Just totally not comparable in any way. And not to mention, could be taken offensively to the female gender.

I happen to know you took the time to 1. post this flame, and 2. call/tattle to a GM, so once again my curriosity is tickled, and I ask again, why not use the blist feature? To me that solves the problem. But some people thrive on drama, hence the name DramaQueen.

Additionally, for some this may be a shock (hehehe), this is a GAME. Yeah that means you can turn it off whenever you want, you have the power! To think you would get so upset over this "game" incident and want, no demand an appropriate, heat-felt applogy is just too much to ask for. It's a game. I sure hope that in real life you don't get this upset, because out in the real world there are many, many more jackasses. (I too am upset by this....damn you jackasses!) Because if so, well that's a trait of a psycho killer, right?

One last thing, and maybe this will ease your mind a little. I know Liquidsnake personally. I suggest you take the applogy, no matter how weak you may think it is, and move on, it's not personal. You're probably a cool enough person. He had a bad night, as I'm sure you have (or maybe you're saintly) or at least I know others have.

:D :) :( :o :shock: :? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :wink:
 
I do not, and have not likened harrassment in the game to rape. What I did draw is an analogy of Valoran's attitude that I'm responsible for dealing with the perpetrator (Liquidsnake) to that of someone telling a rape victim it was their fault.

I'm not asking for pity. If I am to ask anything of the myriad people who may glance at this thread, is to stop passively condoning that kind of behavior. "It's just a game. There will be assholes. Deal with it"--is this the common attitude? It's certainly not in the JP community. If indecency is something of an expectation in the NA community, that may shed some light on the "JP ONLY" search comment phenomenon. I assure you, it's not just a language issue.

I did call a GM at the time of the incident. Unfortunately, JP GMs are not to keen on English expletives and racial slurs which violate the terms of use.

I'm not looking for any remedial "solution" to this particular incident. It's long been over.

As for
Should we try to keep old wounds open and destroy anyone who's ever stepped out of line? Are people who have done something wrong underserving of a second chance?

Your answer to those two would seem to be Yes.
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I wouldn't be so obstinate about not accepting an apology had there been some understandable motive. There clearly was none. At least no bad day would compel me to act like he did to people I don't know. If one's maturity isn't even at that level, he really doesn't belong in a social environment, game or not.

I guess I'm sounding all draconian, but a lot of us pay the monthly fees to enjoy this game on our free time. If you want to spend the night trash talking, there are some IRC channels where that is welcomed (it's free too!).

I'll stop belaboring the point, as many seem to take it as the reiteration of the incident. I hope you all have friendlier encounters in vana today. :)
 
Decency. :wink:
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Unprovoking my actions with an apology isn't showing some sort of decency to you? Than what the hell do you want buddy, me drop down on two knees and beg for your forgivness? Heh, well, you can keep waiting and wishing cause it isn't going to happen. So If you don't accept my apology than just move on and think that i'm just another jack ass that you have encountered. You must enjoy the attention you're getting out of all this, eh? Or do you just lust for the drama? :)

It's just getting old. You called the GM, I got warned yadda yadda yadda. The world moves on; but yet, obviously you're still stuck in past. /comfort
 
SERVAL said:
Being called names can NO WAY be compared to rape.
It's apples and oranges, wait it's not even that it's worse...it's apples and butter. Just totally not comparable in any way. And not to mention, could be taken offensively to the female gender.
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mmmm apple butter is REALLY good :lol:
 
Tyrant said:
Decency. :wink:
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Unprovoking my actions with an apology isn't showing some sort of decency to you? Than what the hell do you want buddy, me drop down on two knees and beg for your forgivness? Heh, well, you can keep waiting and wishing cause it isn't going to happen. So If you don't accept my apology than just move on and think that i'm just another jack ass that you have encountered. You must enjoy the attention you're getting out of all this, eh? Or do you just lust for the drama? :)

It's just getting old. You called the GM, I got warned yadda yadda yadda. The world moves on; but yet, obviously you're still stuck in past. /comfort
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Well, here comes Liquidsnake himself to make the closing arguments (a.k.a. troll) for my sake. I rest my case. It's ironic how he thinks "unprovoke" is a real word too. Either he's versed in Shakespeare or he's an asshole AND illiterate. :(
 
Anyone else feel more stupid AND smarter after reading this?


PIE SOLVES ALL PROBLEMS LIQUIDSNAKE BUY THE DAMN GUY A PIE.
 
Let's see Metachronism, on this flame you have insulted Liquidsnake's maturity level, integrity, ability to game, and now intelligence. And you complained about some name calling? This is truly elementary school yard behavior. You are doing exactly what you have been complaining about except desguising it with a large vocabular. What makes you any better?

Oh, and yes apple butter is yummmmmy :wink:
 
eeeeep!
I noticed I have a typo/misspell in my above post. Metachronism, please don't pick on my intelectual abilities....I did graduate elementary school :P


:D :) :( :o :lol: 8) :? :shock: :x :P :oops: :cry: :wink: :roll: :twisted: :evil:
 
darn it all!

misspelled again!

ok Metachronism, take your shot, I deserve it this time :(
 
Of course I retaliate when there's provocation. I think that's something of an entitlement. If I started talking of you, SERVAL, the way I talk about him, then yes, I think you'll be fully justified in calling me the same sort of tactless trash that I consider Liquidsnake to be.

Besides, I don't think I've said anything about him that wasn't evoked by what he has said or done... :roll:
 
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