Regarding some Xarc fun yesterday night

[xKronox]

Oh man, GP. Sure did lose out there. And to think you could've had someone as awesome as Urat on your shell.
What a shame

Yo dawg, we heard you like idiots. So we put urat in your shell so you can be an idiot while being with an idiot.

 

[Hobobob]

Is this getting to the point of the games life where we should all start becoming like Absolution and do zones whenever we'd like and not give a fuck about anyone else? North American and Japanese GM's seem to approve it. In retrospect, I hope we can all still continue to work together as we have been for the past 6 years JP and NA alike but don't be surprised when you spit on someones face that they spit back.

Do yourself a favor and don't compare yourself to us. What we did and what you did are two completely different things. We entered a zone which was occupied by no one, using our own glass in which we paid for.

You gathered at a zone which had another LS fully gathered already, the other LS was kind enough to offer to /random for it, in which case the loosing LS could move onto another zone, you refused, they still won the zone, you 'stole' one of their glasses entered their zone in which they paid for and proceeded to lot what should have been their AF.

Don't try and make us out to be a bad guy and then try to justify what you and members of your LS did. We don't schedule zones, but guess what, you'll never see us on here crying that someone stole our zone either.

 

[jyakotsu]

I am appalled that people are seriously defending what they did. I can't believe that you all don't consider what Ragnarok did was wrong. I didn't once say what the JPN shell did was right, but two wrongs don't make a right. Seriously, what they did was wrong... they STOLE a zone from another shell. I believe that Rappa's old dynamis shell w/ Audino used to have their zones taken by JPN all the time, but they didn't go around trying to steal another person's glass. If this happened in their shell some repercussion would have happened, or even my shell I guarantee that person would have gotten their pearl broken. You are telling me what the JPN shell did to you was douchebaggery, hate to break it to you but what you did was far far far far far worse.

Like I said the only reason they "Put up with you" And i use the term lightly, was because they couldn't do a damn thing about it but lose 500k. What else do you suggest they have done after trading the glass? Bitch and ask you to leave? Fat chance, you wouldn't have left. I told you before some of your members logged right after finding out what you did, not because the zone was full, but out of disgust.

 

[Grandphoenix]

I didn't say we were like you. It's a clearly stated question and the JP group is your shell in this analogy. However, we just decided not to be nice guys about it and let them or in other shells cases (Absolution) walk all over us. As the saying goes if you play with fire expect to get burned.

I hope maybe this will motivate the other groups not to be push overs and tell you fuck off some.

 

[Makelith]

I am appalled that people are seriously defending what they did. I can't believe that you all don't consider what Ragnarok did was wrong. I didn't once say what the JPN shell did was right, but two wrongs don't make a right. Seriously, what they did was wrong... they STOLE a zone from another shell. I believe that Rappa's old dynamis shell w/ Audino used to have their zones taken by JPN all the time, but they didn't go around trying to steal another person's glass. If this happened in their shell some repercussion would have happened, or even my shell I guarantee that person would have gotten their pearl broken. You are telling me what the JPN shell did to you was douchebaggery, hate to break it to you but what you did was far far far far far worse.

Like I said the only reason they "Put up with you" And i use the term lightly, was because they couldn't do a damn thing about it but lose 500k. What else do you suggest they have done after trading the glass? Bitch and ask you to leave? Fat chance, you wouldn't have left. I told you before some of your members logged right after finding out what you did, not because the zone was full, but out of disgust.

God dammit. Why does Jyak have to be the one to get the point?

You did a super shitty thing and you try to play the victim. Weren't you a BoL native, GP?

Yo dawg, we heard you like idiots. So we put urat in your shell so you can be an idiot while being with an idiot.

Yo dawg, go back to 4chan where we won't have to see your retarded memes.

 

[Urat]

God dammit. Why does Jyak have to be the one to get the point?

You did a super shitty thing and you try to play the victim. Weren't you a BoL native, GP?

I wonder if they got the break and the JPs were the one that nabbed the glass and barged into their zone if they'd still think it was legit...

20K says no =/

 

[Grandphoenix]

I am appalled that people are seriously defending what they did. I can't believe that you all don't consider what Ragnarok did was wrong. I didn't once say what the JPN shell did was right, but two wrongs don't make a right. Seriously, what they did was wrong... they STOLE a zone from another shell. I believe that Rappa's old dynamis shell w/ Audino used to have their zones taken by JPN all the time, but they didn't go around trying to steal another person's glass. If this happened in their shell some repercussion would have happened, or even my shell I guarantee that person would have gotten their pearl broken. You are telling me what the JPN shell did to you was douchebaggery, hate to break it to you but what you did was far far far far far worse.

Like I said the only reason they "Put up with you" And i use the term lightly, was because they couldn't do a damn thing about it but lose 500k. What else do you suggest they have done after trading the glass? Bitch and ask you to leave? Fat chance, you wouldn't have left. I told you before some of your members logged right after finding out what you did, not because the zone was full, but out of disgust.

White knighting for entire races now eh? They didn't lose anything profited quite well actually so that point is null and void. Also, they did bitch and ask us to leave and threatened to have us all banned cause dynamis most definitely is serious business after all, but for once NA fought the law and won. Maybe I should check Japanese news see if any of them actually committed suppuku for the dishonor they faced.

Two wrongs not making a right holds up here in QCDN but in game you don't always have to turn the other cheek (you of all people should know about this as you hold eternal grudges), you can only get shit upon so many times before you fight back and guess what we fought back.

 

[Grandphoenix]

BoL native was I born in BoL or something?

I was a part of BoL for a bit yes but during that time they did nothing flameworthy/ haven't since what 04 maybe 05? I left around a year ago.

 

[Hobobob]

I hope maybe this will motivate the other groups not to be push overs and tell you fuck off some.

We've been told to fuck off, go read the 20 page thread dedicated about us, I'm also sure we'll be told to fuck off in the future as well.

but for once NA fought the law and won. Maybe I should check Japanese news see if any of them actually committed suppuku for the dishonor they faced.

What did you win? A Sam Kabuto and a bad reputation. Congratulations go treat yourself to a cookie. Last I checked the JP's walked away with a couple 100's, a couple RDM Hats and some other stuff, I'd say they won not you.

 

[Makelith]

BoL native was I born in BoL or something?

Yeah, that's totally what i was getting at.

I was a part of BoL for a bit yes but during that time they did nothing flameworthy/ haven't since what 04 maybe 05? I left around a year ago.

I bet. I just wanted to make sure i had my facts straight before i wasn't surprised at the situation.

 

[Desan]

Since my LS runs during a time where JP might be doing Dynamis. I had a friend of mine who is fluent in Japanese ask a bunch of his JP friends how they scheduled their Dynamis. My friend told me that they don't use any website or anything to schedule zones. They told my friend that the leaders from all the JP Dynamis shells just talk to each other and come to agreement. I have just kept an eyes on zones during my runs to see if any other JP shell runs during our times. I haven't seen any as of yet, but I still keep my eye open because when I do I am going to get in touch with them so a situation like this never happens to my shell.

Maybe it was wrong how the Japanese did it, but you didn't solve anything by doing what you did either by sneaking into their run. Two negatives doesn't make a right. This could have been easily solved if you just talked and came to an agreement. It isn't hard to get a free northlands during the wee hours of the night.

 

[xKronox]

Yo dawg, go back to 4chan where we won't have to see your retarded memes.

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yo dawg grow a sense of humor.

Also:
>Your retarded memes
>Retarded memes
>memes

Because 1 is many amirite?

 

[Tristam Green]

@Krono - counting the Xzibit pic, the one in your avatar, and the one in your sig...

(3>1) = many.

@jyak - Rappa's shell might have had zones ganked out from under them, but not by some random JP shell. Likewise, Rappa didn't rely on an OUTSIDE PARTY NOT ASSOCIATED WITH EITHER SHELL to come to the Flameboard and "not flaming; just wanna get this cleared up". He set it up in scheduling with a comment "because some people can't read the scheduling board".

 

[xRiokox]

1. GP is a cool guy.

2. Both shells did wrong, and even if RagnarokDynamis LS made a very rushed decision, it's totally not fair to let others get away with it, in this case, the japanese shell. Both of the shell's leaders should have talked before the run started, but this shows the japanese shell didn't even have the courtesy of looking GP and talk to him about it, 'cause if I understood correctly, they knew Rangarok was doing Xarca that night.

3. In no way Ragnarok forced them to give them stuff or gtfo, the japanese shell was the one that paid anyways...Weren't they the ones that told them to leave?

4. He's not an horrible excuse for a leader, you should get to know him more before saying something like that. It was a rushed decision, yes, but we all make mistakes and learn from them, don't tell me you haven't made mistakes before, Urat.

5. They ended up working together, and this shows how if people work together and cooperate we could avoid problems like this... Why make it harder? Why be selfish?

6. I was gonna go to bed but this thread caught my interest, don't kill me Grand. >.>;

 

[Meikolia]

Off Topic:

Yo dawg, we heard you like idiots. So we put urat in your shell so you can be an idiot while being with an idiot.

What is wrong with you?! On a serious note Stay on Panda.

On Topic:

You know, I don't know what you expected to come out of this. I don't understand how you thought this community was going to be ok with what you did simply because it was a JP shell. You tried to "stick it to them" come here and play up the story and get your face bashed in when they tell you are wrong. If you have been playing as long as most of you should have known it would come back to kick you right in the backside.

They don't abide by QCDN. Fine. Could have just said hey we'll do this zone another time come back to the QCDN Dynamis community and said hey listen we got jacked out of our zone can any of you give us a break and see if we can fit this run in anywhere? Did you do that? Nope. You took the wrong approach. I'm not saying the situation as whole was taken properly but sometimes you just have to learn to be the bigger person. As soon as your member had that glass you should have immediately told him to drop it and found yourself another zone.

 

[Grandphoenix]

We've done the bigger person thing plenty it just doesn't work sometimes.

Also, how are we getting our face bashed in consensus seems to be fairly 50/50 at the moment.

This isn't even really a flame but apparently more of a surprise to many that people might fight back when they get tired of putting up with shit?

 

[Xalioniaf]

bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww baaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

yo dawg grow a sense of humor.

Also:
>Your retarded memes
>Retarded memes
>memes

Because 1 is many amirite?

>green text
Damnit Krono, fail less.

 

[Xalioniaf]

You know, I don't know what you expected to come out of this. I don't understand how you thought this community was going to be ok with what you did simply because it was a JP shell. You tried to "stick it to them" come here and play up the story and get your face bashed in when they tell you are wrong. If you have been playing as long as most of you should have known it would come back to kick you right in the backside.

Funny, because half the people agree with what he did. And Jyak is making this out to be more than it should be because it's a JP shell. If it had been any NA shell who tried to steal the zone from them he'd probably be commended.

 

[Meikolia]

The Consensus of yes they were wrong and so are you guys, I see that but don't see many people saying "you go boy" running around. Like I said both parties are wrong.

Tired of putting up with what? What do you expect exactly. They could give a rats ass if we put it in sky writing, they choose to ignore. So what now every time this happens we give the go ahead to enter the Zone? I can't tell you how many fights that would start. It worked this time because there was really no other solution they were in you guy were in, done deal. The next time it happens... I don't know you think the same results will occur?

 

[Tristam Green]

I still stand by my very observant assertion outlined in Post #3 of this thread.