Samurai / White Mage (56k warning, pictures involved.)

Peregrine, a dumbass?


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Sorry, Counter is a L10 trait, making it only good for the L20-30ish region for some melees. Can't win em all.

Despite that, subbing MNK for Boost would still make them a better DD than subbing WAR, if you're gunning for that, and still serves reasonably higher use than WAR even from 20-30.
 
I didn't either. I was told that by the person you were flaming that you were rude from the get go, who can't realistically respond to the thread either way cause as you know he is banned from the forums.

Hearsay. I could've sworn you where harping on hearsay earlier in this thread.
Oh, is that hypocrisy? Why.. yes, yes it is.

He replaced you because you were being sarcastic to him for no apparent reason from the get go. Maybe talking shit was the wrong phrase to use. Either way, you were being rude and you can't say you weren't. I don't blame him for kicking you. I can sense the sarcasm from the start of 'East? Why East?...' until the very last part of the screenshots. You were being sarcastic, he felt that, he kicked you because he didn't want you in his party if you were going to act that way. Once again, I don't blame him for kicking you. Look at what lead up to the kicking. Your snide little tell. Thats why you were kicked. The attitude.

Asking why we should have headed east is rude? Holy fucking shit. I fail to see how my tell was insinuating anything, I didn't give a shit about how his day was, or why he had the yellow dot next to his name.
Also, more hearsay and hypocrisy.

I see no indication that you are upset about him kicking you in your OP. Your OP is focused on his SAM/WHM argument, the title is called SAM/WHM. I'd say that your dancing around the fact that you wanted to flame him for being a SAM/WHM because people didn't immediately agree with you and have a good laugh. I've skimmed the screenshots several times over and I don't even see where you mentioned you got kicked in the OP other than where you can infer he kicked you when he said your rep was ready and the screenshots went from party chat to tells.

You see no indication? You seem to be rather adept at telling people their attitude from text alone! :rolleyes:




Mishaela said:
/WHM isn't at all bad for the dunes, since most all other jobs give nothing beneficial in terms of JAs or traits pre-level 20. The loss of 1-2 STR isn't gonna kill your melee and if the mages pull hate so badly that multiple vokes are needed to save them, then that's a completely different issue entirely.

And that provoke can save the mages life, or the life of a melee who has stolen hate. It's about 2-3 STR, DEX, and 30+ HP.

With all honesty, you totally lashed out at Pere in this case (who in fact acted much more reserved than I usually seen him be) and you sorta came off as an enormous elitist in the process.

I lashed because he was replacing me within minutes of joining the party and getting to the camp. Also, I hardly have any reason to sound elitist, and I'll be the first to tell you that.

You weren't talking crap from the get go but you did, from the looks of your own screenshots, immediately begin to argue over something incredibly minor; it's not like moving east is a 1-way dropoff or such, and if the new camp didn't work you could have always moved back in just a few minutes. You even attempted to drag it on as long as you can before you were booted by picking a fight in regards to his subjob

I'm sorry, asking why we should move east and stating we're currently in a spot with fast access to snippers is arguing? The new camp he wanted had gobs left and right of us. Same thing, but with more gobs.

Just because you argued with someone notorious doesn't make this an instant-win thread, sorry. =/

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that this forum was about winning. :(
 
And that provoke can save the mages life, or the life of a melee who has stolen hate. It's about 2-3 STR, DEX, and 30+ HP.

At that level, most of the "heavy armor" melee have about the same defense, the only real gap in taking moderately high damage or not is if they tote a shield. And as I said before, if you're tossing a cure or two then hate is more spread out and the mage (hopefully) doesn't steal hate off the designated tank. If a BLM or RDM are the ones to grab hate due to over nuking, it's a different issue entirely since they simply need to nuke less and the issue is solved.

As a sidenote, saying subbing WHM is bad for a ~30hp loss is a bit silly, considering even with the 30ish MP pool and relatively low MND you can use that mp to cure a good 70hp at that level. If that 30hp is vital, you get more than it from having a MP pool and cure access.

It's MUCH more beneficial to just prevent the tank from losing hate because if the mage gets hate then you voke, you're taking damage now, meaning the now mage hasto cure you, likely for a decent amount more than they would the tank, meaning the mage gets even more hate and you're rapidly losing hate from taking moderately high damage. Unless the fight ends quickly, your using voke makes the mage more likely to die.

"I won't have hate long enough to worry about dying because the tank will voke it in a sec" would make a great response but if they can voke in another second or so, that more or less made your voke completely pointless. See what I'm getting at?...probably not.


I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that this forum was about winning. :(
Let me rephrase it for simplicity's sake. This thread is CRAP. It seems to have been made simply because it involved Peregrine and nothing else, cause god knows that people with unorthodox subjobs in Dunes isn't at all rare and I haven't seen you flaming anyone else in the past for such things.
 
Well, I'm terribly sorry my first thread was a failure. Perhaps I'll just give up the whole flaming profession.
 
tl;dr

Partied with Pere not too long ago in Mire. He was surprisingly nice to everybody. This has no relevance to the thread, but I didn't have anything cool to say.
 
honestly if the job is pre 20 and not supposed to be the tank or puller, whm is probably the best sub and the one i have used many times to get through the dunes. The reason is that if everyone rests then the party can get tp back 4 times faster than if everyone in the party cept the whm is not helping on the healing.

Of course this only matters if by some chance the party does not have a PL which i dont remember the last time i saw that...
 
1st I was going to vote. I have heard that Pere was not like due to dumbassness but I had no personal experience, but when I saw that you were flaming him for being a lvl 14 sam/whm in the DUNES c'mon man be resonable. From my experience every job in the dunes should sub whm except pld.
 
I have actually been a couple parties in the past where nearly everyone was subbing whm, and we actually did good on exp. Also, as far as every job doing better with whm sub, I went thf/mnk when I went through the dunes, and h2h'd it. Seemed to do good dmg.
 
I hate to say this, but Peregrine is right... /WAR sub really does have no clear advantage over other subs in the dunes. Its like those morons subbing /NIN pre-24. /WHM is a decent sub for jobs that don't plan on tanking since you can keep chains up longer by helping the mages to cure, as MP is normally the #1 issue.

You just acted like a jackass there, Cort
 
Yeah, I slept on it and I did excessively rage over shit in the loldoons. :/
 
Well, I'm terribly sorry my first thread was a failure. Perhaps I'll just give up the whole flaming profession.

You should also try and forget that you ever made this one.
 
As was previously said, melee/whm is pretty good in the dunes, especially since, with signet, you can rest without losing TP.

also: the chat log just makes you look like the idiot, not pere.
 
wheres the "NO U!" option on the poll?
 
lol@ the OP. Coming here thinking everybody would jump on Pere just because it is a flame about Pere. Turns out you're the nub and now you make it look like that you overreacted over "loldoon"...haha
 
lol@ the OP. Coming here thinking everybody would jump on Pere just because it is a flame about Pere. Turns out you're the nub and now you make it look like that you overreacted over "loldoon"...haha

At the end of the day though, Peregrine is still a tool.
 
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