Seeking on Blu for hours on end..

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Im level 34 bluemage and ive been seeking forever....
im in jeuno with nin sub, and i jsut cant get a party... are blue's not in any demand at all or am i doing my job wrong?


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Seems like every party I've been in for the past month has had a BLU in it. There may be way to many BLU's out there right now. Not sure though.
 
Have you tried putting you can sub other things in your comment, Flik? Like whm, etc?
 
Eulore said:
Why are you subbing ninja at that level?
Yea why? sub /thf or you one of those blus that can not be assed to lv subs?
 
I think many BLUs don't know how to do their jobs. Its not like most melees where you pick up a weapon and just wack at it. Many don't have all the spells or they don't know how to use them properly, so they leave a bad taste in some people's mouths.

While leveling a low level job I've have a few bad BLUs in my PT, more bad ones than good ones(The good ones area really really great I love BLU).
For example, one was in the upper fourties and could not grasp the idea of how to do a self skillchain, another BLU/NIN was using a sword/club(shellbuster).

I personally would love to have a good BLU in all my regular parties.
 
Eulore said:
Why are you subbing ninja at that level?
Because that's the only sub 90% of Blu's would ever consider using.
 
Go solo. I heard they solo quite well. Solo while seeking.
 
Hey, you can't say that you seek for hours.... you got 34 when I got 35 in that crazy Behemoth's Dominion party we had. ;) Just do what I've always done on Bst (since people would never consider inviting a Bst) Just start one! You are a killer Blu ;)
 
I don't believe Flik's story. He's a bard he doesn't have to seek. I bet he actually had to put his flag up this time.

/sarcasm
 
Flik said:
Im level 34 bluemage and ive been seeking forever....
im in jeuno with nin sub, and i jsut cant get a party... are blue's not in any demand at all or am i doing my job wrong?


discuss
Lots of people are leveling blu and lots of them suck at it. That doesn't necessarily mean you do, but leaders might be getting sick of all the crappy blus out there and just skipping over them all.

Either way, I have a 35 brd that I'd like to level more. Next time there's some decent jobs lfp make a party and send me a tell.
 
1. Blu is the current "noob" job. its like drk was a while ago. Every idiot flocked to the job and made the competent ones look bad.

2. meeting even one of the crappy blu turns you off from the job. Ive had to deal with a guy subbing nin at lv 22. i explained that there are better subs to use. Took offense to it ect ect. asked my "high and mighty" opinion on a better sub. turned out about half or more of all subs are better than /nin at that level. Still refused to wear a decent one even after the whole pt homepointed getting rid of the it'll waste our exp time excuse.

3. the people who havnt seen a good blu. therefore they must believe all blu suck or dont know how to tell when or what a good blu should be wearing/using.(including spells)
4. dependent on mp yet also tp at the same time. so they have to use thier tp up before the end of the fight or its all gonna be rested away getting back mp for spells
5. /nin really isnt a great sub for blu. might be decent at lv 74+ but /thf is gonna be wanted for HNM
 
On the subject what does a "good" blu do in pt besides have multiple subs lved?

I've seen Liger use Shellbuster in exp pt before possibly the first blu I've seen with it nothing wrong with it, whats wrong with just using two swords, or if clubs are ok using two clubs?

Sorry if thats a bit much but I guess I better learn now
 
Why would you use a club as BLU? Isn't physical magic accuracy based off your mainhand weapon accuracy?
 
Yes it is, but I would have to guess it opens up a larger of variety of SCs to solo with sword cant make this sc work with this spell and its ws where club could, thats my guess anyways
 
Flik's a noob...





















j/k of course, hes a great guy as long as he stays awake >.> haha.
 
BLU gets total crap for clubs, Shellbuster included (the DMG is very low, the delay is higher than the good swords, and it has no accuracy on it like the swords any good BLU would use). Even with the 2 merits I have in club from WHM, it doesn't make up for the fact that every club we get sucks horribly. It's kinda gay, considering we have the same club skill as WAR, yet WAR gets a bunch of nice maces and we don't. :/ Also, our club skill is several levels below our sword skill, and by 48 (the level where you could use Shellbuster, which sadly is the best club we get until Titan's Cudgel at 65) it's far enough below your sword skill that it kills your accuracy and attack, even without the crappy stats.

Honestly, I didn't have much trouble getting PTs until recently (like post-60). I've always listed all my available subs in my search comment, as others have said (and I have WAR, WHM, BLM, RDM, THF, and NIN leveled). As for NIN sub: I'd say that between the levels of 30-40 it's certainly fine. You can offhand a second Centurion/Bastokan/Republic Sword for extra accuracy. THF sub doesn't really shine until 40, when you get Chain Affinity. And even then, no spells are truly awesome for stacking with SA; your best spells are still multi-hit ones (Bludgeon and Jet Stream). Mandibular Bite at 44 is the first awesome spell for stacking with CASA. Personally, I subbed WHM til about 34, then BLM (just because I wanted Warp for when PTs were over; WHM would have been better). I subbed NIN occasionally from 30-40, then almost all the time from 40-60, with only a few PTs where I could tell I'd get away with /THF (it takes a lot of hate, and you don't have Utsusemi to take up the slack; you need a good tank so they can get hate back fast enough for you to not die). 60+, I haven't subbed anything but THF, of course.

As for what a good BLU does in a PT; DD, with a liberal serving of Head Butt. XD Stunning annoying mob abilities/spells helps a lot, and our physical spells are awesome DD; you just hafta make sure to conserve MP long enough to go without resting (Refresh is a must, obviously; and later, Sanction refresh and Auto-Refresh from setting the right spells), which will also keep you from taking hate too much and getting killed. For PTs without a reliable sleeper, you can sleep a link with Pinecone Bomb, and for PTs without a dispeller, you can use Geist Wall (so long as you're in an AoE-safe area; it has short range anyway). Magical spells are pretty much worthless for actually casting; either they won't stick without AF body, or they do crap damage. I'm sure that with BLM sub, HQ elemental staves, Magic Atk. Bonus gear/spells, and INT gear, a BLU could do decent damage with their magical spells, but it still wouldn't be as good as /THF or /NIN with physical spells and melee gear.

I think that one of the problems with BLUs is that a lot of players still don't understand them. BRDs (and even some CORs) get all pissy because they can't refresh them (since they melee, and thus get stuck with the melee songs/rolls), melees at the lower levels don't understand that they need MP to deal any decent damage and will pull when the BLU has no MP, and the crappier RDMs tend to forget to Refresh the BLU cuz they are just a melee in their eyes. Since BLUs kinda need a RDM to refresh them (for the above mentioned reason), PTs with only a BRD or COR to refresh will sometimes avoid them. I love having a BRD or COR in my PTs on BLU, though, so long as there is also a RDM to keep me refreshed. ^^

And again, as some people have said, there are a lot of crappy BLUs. I've PTed with a few of them myself. I remember one in the Boyahda Tree who was subbing WHM, using a Shellbuster, and only casting a bunch of really low level spells like Sprout Smack, Wild Oats, Bludgeon (which sucks by 50+), Poison Breath, etc... And our RDM was the only healer, in addition to having to Refresh like 5 out of the 6 people in the PT and dispel/enfeeble things, so we asked him to do some healing, since he always had a ton of MP and was subbing WHM. So what did he do? He started casting Healing Breeze every once in awhile (and usually right at the start of a fight, getting himself nearly killed before we could get hate off him, wasting more of the RDM's MP to cure him), and didn't touch Cure III. Still always had a ton of MP. I think I saw him use Mandibular Bite once or twice after he saw me using it. In a PT in Wajaom fighting Colibris, there was this really crappy JP BLU with the most horrible gear I'd ever seen for someone of this level. He even had two of those level 30 latent effect earrings that are activated by your subjob: the DRK one and the RNG one (or maybe it was BST...), and he was subbing NIN. He also used almost no spells that did any real damage; he kept spamming magical ones, especially AoE ones (which got us several links). He only self-SC'ed after he saw me do it (did the same SC, Red Lotus Blade -> Jet Stream for fusion) and then kept trying to MB Bomb Toss on it, even though he failed 9 times out of 10. I switched to using Red Lotus Blade -> Sickle Slash for Gravitation, hoping he'd copy me again and have no AoE spells to MB, but no luck there. <.<;

Anyway... this post has gotten out of control; I'm gonna stop it here. XD
 
I've got thf leveled, but from what I learned from my own experience, at this level there is not much to SA... unless im missing something, SA smite of rage doesnt do as much as a SA helldive, and you can not SA Bludgeon unless im missing somehting.

And from what I've seen there is not much I can do in terms of Magic Burst's either, I only have like 3 elemental spells that do damage.

I've got all of my spells up till now also..
and my Subs I can use are Thf, NIN, WHM, RDM, War...
so... I will leave that in my comment, i've never really used search comments before haha.

and to touch on zhao yun's words
i switched to bard last night for a second, and got two invites.
 
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