Sept. 12 2006 1/4 will die?

Bangalor said:
In response to the poster above, about the science and homosexual thing.

I, myself, think that is complete bullshit and people choose who they are attracted to, and that a certain cell in the brain wouldn't force you to chose one way or the other. Just my personal opinion though.
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Nah, that stuff is proven. Some men are born with abnormal amounts of estrogen which makes them more woman-like. Those guys are usually more likely to be homosexual.
 
Jesse said:
This has been a pretty interesting thread. Let me point out one thing first. This thread is religious-heavy, meaning no two people will agree 100%. Please treat everyone's thoughts with respect and try to provide a valid arguement if you are going to disagree with someone.

Okay, about me... I consider myself Christian, with a few years background in Bible study. The Bible code is complete crap. It has been translated a number of times. Ideas have been transfered, "codes" have not. The Bible is meant to be read "as-is". It means what it says. It's not meant to be read-into. If it says homosexuality is wrong, then it says it's wrong. You don't have to agree with it.

If you are interested in prophecy, read Revelation, (the last book of the Bible), or the last few books of the Old Testament. A lot of the Old Testament prophecies were in reference to Jesus the Christ, which came true in the New Testament. Keep in mind while reading prophecies of the Bible, no one knew what a helicopter or a rocket was. If it says "locusts spit fire", it could mean a number of things including firepower from aircraft to something that has yet to be invented.

Regardless of what you personally believe, shouldn't we be living every day as if it was our last?

Jesse :cool:
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Extremly well said. But i have a question. 2012 is the end of the calender right? Is that when Revelations will come? I'm confused on that part. I'm asking because i don't really have any Christian friends myself who would know.
 
Cua said:
Extremly well said. But i have a question. 2012 is the end of the calender right? Is that when Revelations will come? I'm confused on that part. I'm asking because i don't really have any Christian friends myself who would know.
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>.< Not that calendar lol!
The Mayan Calendar, not the Gregorian.
 
Mayans were such badasses.
 
I think the Mayans were known for their predictions always coming true? I think thats what the video I saw in middle school said >.>
 
Woo! So many different opinions to put my 2 cents into.
Ok, first off: Anything related to religion or bible = nonsense. There is no all powerful being ready to put the smack down on you because you didn't kiss his ass before eating the food you paid for and so forth. It was a book written retardly long ago that just needed to be taken off the best seller list forever ago. Some people just don’t know how to retire.
Life is constantly changing and evolving. You can’t predict what will happen tomorrow, no less hundreds/thousand years ahead. Let’s use some common sense here, people.
I’m going to keep my two cents on the whole homosexuality thing because I don’t want to get into a serious argument with some of the more…. Yea, probably not even a good idea to finish that sentence, lol.

Lesson of the day:: Don’t believe everything you hear/see/read. Use your own brain. Take life as what it is. You live, you die, you pay taxes.
 
Keket said:
Woo! So many different opinions to put my 2 cents into.
Ok, first off: Anything related to religion or bible = nonsense. There is no all powerful being ready to put the smack down on you because you didn't kiss his ass before eating the food you paid for and so forth. It was a book written retardly long ago that just needed to be taken off the best seller list forever ago. Some people just don’t know how to retire.
Life is constantly changing and evolving. You can’t predict what will happen tomorrow, no less hundreds/thousand years ahead. Let’s use some common sense here, people.
I’m going to keep my two cents on the whole homosexuality thing because I don’t want to get into a serious argument with some of the more…. Yea, probably not even a good idea to finish that sentence, lol.

Lesson of the day:: Don’t believe everything you hear/see/read. Use your own brain. Take life as what it is. You live, you die, you pay taxes.
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O-K..nice to hear from the Realistic Atheist side...
 
Elpon said:
O-K..nice to hear from the Realistic Atheist side...
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being the key word ^^
I wouldn't label myself an "Atheist", though. It's just another title for people to hide behind. I'm a human being who believes in herself and doesn't need a book or religion to make me be a good person and treat others the way they should.
 
Bangalor said:
Always good to hear from a realistic point of view.

And to keket, please share your views on homosexuality, i have a sneaky suspicion they would be close to mine.
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Remember, you brought this upon yourself, lol

My views on that matter follow the same pattern. You are who you are. Religion, or Christianity, is the one putting taboos on things. Homosexuality goes as far back as Heterosexuality. You are not special because you’re straight! If you want to blame science for the way you are, go for it, it doesn’t bother me any. Only people with insecurities about themselves say anything about a person is “wrong”. Everyone as a right to be who they want to be; they earned that right with their first breath.

Edit: *you* is not directed at anyone in particular.
 
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I've been called "aggressive" before... I like to carry my own warning to those who'd jump the "offended" train before it even got to the station, thats all. lol
 
Keket said:
Woo! So many different opinions to put my 2 cents into.
Ok, first off: Anything related to religion or bible = nonsense. There is no all powerful being ready to put the smack down on you because you didn't kiss his ass before eating the food you paid for and so forth. It was a book written retardly long ago that just needed to be taken off the best seller list forever ago. Some people just don’t know how to retire.
Life is constantly changing and evolving. You can’t predict what will happen tomorrow, no less hundreds/thousand years ahead. Let’s use some common sense here, people.
I’m going to keep my two cents on the whole homosexuality thing because I don’t want to get into a serious argument with some of the more…. Yea, probably not even a good idea to finish that sentence, lol.

Lesson of the day:: Don’t believe everything you hear/see/read. Use your own brain. Take life as what it is. You live, you die, you pay taxes.
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I don't know your background or anything, but I think it's extremely disrespectful for you to say that religion and the Bible are nonsense.

The same way you can say there isn't an almighty being, I can say that there is an Almighty Being. God doesn't put the smack down on you because you weren't kissing His ass, He wants you to be a better person. You don't have to believe in Him, just as long as you're a good person. This is not what my religion (Roman Catholicism) teaches generally, but it's what I've gathered myself from what I've read on the Bible, from what my TEACHERS and PRIESTS have taught me, and what I've learned throughout my life.

I don't go around shaking my fists, my Cross, my Rosary, and my Bible in the faces of people, that'd be hypocrisy. I just try my best to comfort/help/cheer my peers, myself, and God.

I know that Revelations isn't a book about the end of the world, I've never believed that myself. It's a book about the persecution Christians had to endure in the face of Nero, the Caesar at the time.

Anyways, I don't have time right now, so tbc....
 
The only response I can come up with is something I have already said:

Keket said:
I'm a human being who believes in herself and doesn't need a book or religion to make me be a good person and treat others the way they should.
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You're basing your life off of a book that was written untold long ago. That was revised countless times by kings and people who wanted it to better suit themselves. There are so many different versions of this one book, its ridiculous. Think of it as the old telephone games we used to play in school. One person says something and it goes down and down the chain until it's completely unrecognizable. Now do this for two THOUSAND years.
I own a bible, I've read the bible. In fact, I've read it from cover to cover. I was raised in religion. I'm not some person basing my opinions off of hearsay. I even get into these discussions with my parents, because of the different views and opinions.
I'll believe religion and all the hype as soon as I get a burning bush that talks to me. And not an opium induced delusion, either. You do know most of the people in said times were usually high, right?
You can believe what you want, that's fine with me. If you need a book and an omnipotent being to make you a good person and do what you should, fine. I didn't post my two (or 3-6) cents to get into a religion battle. You said yourself that you don't throw your religion onto others, and I'm cool with that. Actually, because of that, I respect you more.
My intention here is not to debunk religion and belief systems, but it seems that is what it has turned into. Religion is a powerful thing. Not to bring up politics, but just look at what Religion is doing in the Middle East.

If I offended you by saying Religion & the bible = Nonsense, than I'm sorry to have offended you. But that does not mean I retract it. I stand by what I say and my convictions, and I'd expect no less from you, or anyone else. Frankly, without religious people, not unlike yourself, who would I fight with? :biggrin:

Now I end my text wall with a fair thee well and good day.
 
before this becomes a complete religious flame war, you guys might want to move this to PM.

On topic, wooo 7 days to go!
 
Nah, I'm done. I've said my "peace".
 
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Keket said:
Nah, I'm done. I've said my peace.
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And a good piece at that.

Just one clarification: I didn't say I needed God to be a good person. I only try to be a better one with His aid, which I joyfully accept (or try to).

You're entitled to your opinion about the nonsense part, and frankly I'm content about you not wanting to have offended anyone. That's a done deal now.

Fare thee well, too, and have a good day yourself. Good days, in fact. ^^

Oh, and now it's 6 days... ish
 
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