/sigh

[Answa~]

If you think SMN should main heal, leave now.

Hmm... what do you do if you need a healer and see a SMN with a search comment written with auto-translator so it attracts attention... and it goes like this: (|Healing|) ~> (|No thanks|)? Well, this guy invited me... When I got invited, there was only the leader, another person, and me. So I asked, "Am I healing" to which an endless supply of silence followed. More people got invited. I check everytime in Party window. No WHM. At the end, all 6 slots were full, and, lo and behold, no WHM.

Well, I have to admit I was slightly pissed, but I decided not to disband because I was 1.6k tnl, and I want desperately to get as close to lvl 70 as I can. But I do tell the party to next time read my search comment... and that if I had been asked before I got invited, then I'd at least feel like had a chance to prepare myself mentally for the total boredom that would follow from healing... /sigh

OK, listen up. I WAS happy when I logged on because I had just purchased a new controller. My old one broke and I'd been playing not quite like myself playing with the keyboard, because I had been accustomed (sp?) to playing with the game pad for over a year... I really sucked without my controller. So I was willing to not be mad because I had my controller. But I did try to make the party feel horrible... by making sarcastic remarks like: "OH! I left Fenrir in my MH... Well, whatever, I'm healing." Or just some quip about people making me get Fenrir so I wouldn't use it. >.>

Well, I figure some people would get pissed, and if they did, good. Well, when we actually got to the camp (Boyhada Tree)... the DRG got caught up... fighting aggro. >.> Well, he killed it, but the RDM died when going to help him because of a crawler aggro. So... she got a Raise I :twisted:

When we actually get to play, I decide to not use my Blood Pacts and let them suffer. They invited me to heal, they'd suffer the consequences. I got asked for Earthen Ward... I obliged... >< I'm so stupid.

In my honest opinion, I actually healed well. And the party was doing fine. I was like 500 tnl when the tank said he would go afk... ok, we wait a few. Then the THF, the leader, pulled... WTF. We were struggling, but then the tank got back THANK GOD and we were saved... phew, close call, dumbass THF.

I was slightly flustered, but I decided to let it go. We fought like one more and then the other one was the trim... I have no idea what happened, but the Goobbue started hating me... and I was healing normally, the tank was NIN, and I barely healed much, but it still hated on me... a lot. So one hit, Stoneskin goes byebye, and deals the rest of damage on me. Second, I'm yellow. Third, I'm orange. Fourth, red... then death. During those painfully slow seconds, I see no one moving, no one doing shit... Just me, dying... the goob dealing upwards of 200 DMG per hit...

I'm pissed, but I laugh it off. Then dinner is ready, I say to party: "afk, food."

I come back, party was disbanded... I scroll up... THF had pulled with me afk... RDM and BLM had died.

The BLM told me to flag up if I wanted Escape, and I did. We Escaped, then I ask what happened, the BLM and the DRG told me that THF pulled. I laughed, and just before BLM added: I died. So... he thought I laughed at him... he Warp II'd the DRG, then Warped out. Hmm.

I ask him why he didn't Warp II me, to which he replies: "That's what happens when you're an ass and laugh because I die..." And then I explain how I was being an ass (to the leader) because I talk too much and I didn't like to heal. And then no reply... probably a black list... I don't really care.

SO, I reached 3 conclusions:

1- Never ever fucking invite me to heal without prior notice or I will either:
a- Disband once party is full.
b- Go to camp, buff, wait for pull, and warp out.
2- The THF was a complete dumbass... but a nice dumbass.
3- BLMs that take my comments personally suck.

I'm a weird guy, I know. I change my mind quickly and without others or me noticing. I talk WAY too much... but I mostly just kid around, and people know that, generally. Those who don't, I apologize, and let them know how NOT serious I am. But when I get pissed off... I get pissed off. I despise healing with a passion. But I do it, anyway, but only if I'm either desperate for level or if the leader asked me before invite.

So... I dunno what this whole thing was about, only that I'm pissed... at a bunch of shit that happened all at once in a moment when I was supposed to be happy because I could play again.

 

[Veteran]

Sorry, but SMN is better served as a healer from what I've seen. If the party is chaining VTs and low ITs, a WHM is overkill--I'd rather have a SMN toss out seven or eight heals a fight while still using avatars to SC, MB, and just deal damage in general.

 

[Vlishgnath]

Sorry to hear about your loss (exp) Answa.

I am extremely wary of joining parties with a SMN main healer. For one, I am completely conscious of the fact that if a SMN is smiling at me in the abscence of a WHM, it is through painfully gritted teeth. And for another, well, I simply don't trust pick up parties and the thought of a having to eat an R1 after the first battle is not something I enjoy.

Sucks you had a party full of idiots in conjunction with forced healing duties =\

 

[Seawolf]

You were an ass for deliberately not doing your job right. I can understand if you slacked off a bit because you were upset, but refusing to use Blood Pact as a SMN? Let them suffer? WTF?

Sorry but by going out with them to the camp you have signed a contract to try to do your best in the party. It's not like you were "helping" them. You needed 1900exp. That's the reason you accepted. You were benefiting from the party. If it were not for the 1900exp you would have disbanded or performed the dirty thing you listed in your post.

Also, you were being inconsiderate to laugh at the BLM and DRG's misfortune. That alone isn't enough for the BLM to not warp II you, but judging from your post, you were being asinine during the party "to make the party feel horrible" and that last drop of water spilled the cup.

With that said, both the leader and the THF were dumbasses. Give us names, please.

 

[Rones]

then I'd at least feel like had a chance to prepare myself mentally for the total boredom that would follow from healing... /sigh

Boredom compared to what? Using a blood pact once a minute and feeling useful by not curing or doing anything else? Any party with a whm, smn, and refresher is a complete waste. There is no reason a smn can't use blood pacts and still main heal, especially if you have a rdm also there helping you heal.

Fine you don't like curing. Beyond that your attitude going into it was really bad it appears. I think the blm was completly right in ditching you just for the way you acted earlier in the party despite the laugh at the end. Acting like this is an excellent way to shoot your reputation in the foot and gurantee you are excluded from high lvl activites (not that it is a bad thing really :lol.

 

[Princemercury]

I'm thinking about spamming your threads too .

 

[xKronox]

I've seen SMN's do a fantastic job as a mainhealer, also while keeping buffs up and participating in MB's.

I don't see what the big problem is, and I think if you don't want to mainheal as SMN I think you might be insecure about your performace.

Also you did overreact greatly, and screwed over the party, but leeching the EXP, even though they themselfs, were not doing such a great job.

 

[Bajaratt]

SMN can main heal in certain party setups. I main heal on my smn all the time. In fact, <Main> <Heal> O is in my comment because I know I'll get more invites that way.

From the majority of your post, and I just skimmed it after I found out what it was about, you just decided to be an ass because they asked you to do something that you don't like to do, even though it's one of a smn's accepted jobs. I think it would have been better if they just kicked you for not doing your job.

 

[Answa~]

Well, I consider myself not an ass. I TOLD them I wouldn't use them, but I did. I was being very honest. I didn't leech, I healed. I did everything I had to do. I did a good job. I'm not saying SMNs can't do a good job healing, I'm saying generally SMNs don't like to heal. Like me.

 

[Answa~]

And also, I'm flaming the situation, not the people. Notice how there are no names, I'm saying everything honestly, the good and the bad...

Also you did overreact greatly, and screwed over the party, but leeching the EXP, even though they themselfs, were not doing such a great job.

How did I screw them over? I was the one that died. They died by themselves afterwards. No one died but me when I was on.

You were an ass for deliberately not doing your job right. I can understand if you slacked off a bit because you were upset, but refusing to use Blood Pact as a SMN? Let them suffer? WTF?

Sorry but by going out with them to the camp you have signed a contract to try to do your best in the party. It's not like you were "helping" them. You needed 1900exp. That's the reason you accepted. You were benefiting from the party. If it were not for the 1900exp you would have disbanded or performed the dirty thing you listed in your post.

Also, you were being inconsiderate to laugh at the BLM and DRG's misfortune. That alone isn't enough for the BLM to not warp II you, but judging from your post, you were being asinine during the party "to make the party feel horrible" and that last drop of water spilled the cup.

I was an ass, and I know it. I was doing it on purspose, but only towards the leader. I didn't laugh at the BLM and the RDM's (the DRG didn't die) deaths, only at the fact that the THF pulled.

With that said, both the leader and the THF were dumbasses. Give us names, please.

One and the same, and I'm not naming anyone.

I think the blm was completly right in ditching you just for the way you acted earlier in the party despite the laugh at the end. Acting like this is an excellent way to shoot your reputation in the foot and gurantee you are excluded from high lvl activites (not that it is a bad thing really ).

And you're not my favorite person right now. The BLM had no grounds on thinking I was an ass towards him. I didn't do anything bad towards him or the party.

I was doing my job right. I used Carbuncle for the AoE heal, I used Silena and Paralyna when needed, no one died. I'm a good healer, I just don't like healing while on SMN.

As I said, I'm flaming the situation. This party was supposed to make me feel happy becaue it was my first invite since I got my new controller. But hat it did as make me feel like shit because I got -EXP gain while doing something I hate doing. And that's not fair.

I think it would have been better if they just kicked you for not doing your job.

No comment, I already said what I needed to say.

And Rones, SMN is not boring when done right. I'm always doing something. I can't really come up with stats or anything because I don't like to put much thought into a GAME, but I know that everytime I party while no mainhealing, everyone in my party has fun.

Riddle me this, o wise one: "Why, o why, do I get congratulated when I do a good job summoning and not when I main heal?"

I can answer that for you, bcause when they see me summoning, they see SMN in a new face. I'm very dynamic and I do what needs to be done. Just don't listen to anyone with which I partied for the last 2 weeks... I REALLY sucked without my controller.

 

[Falsey]

Just wait till Sabia sees this. .... She will say everything I'm going to say.... I hope! 8)

 

[Bajaratt]

I think it would have been better if they just kicked you for not doing your job.

No comment, I already said what I needed to say.

And Rones, SMN is not boring when done right. I'm always doing something. I can't really come up with stats or anything because I don't like to put much thought into a GAME, but I know that everytime I party while no mainhealing, everyone in my party has fun.

Riddle me this, o wise one: "Why, o why, do I get congratulated when I do a good job summoning and not when I main heal?"

I can answer that for you, bcause when they see me summoning, they see SMN in a new face. I'm very dynamic and I do what needs to be done. Just don't listen to anyone with which I partied for the last 2 weeks... I REALLY sucked without my controller.

First, no, you haven't really said anything. You've admitted that you were an ass for them asking you to do something that you don't like, even though it's a potential use for your job. You said you weren't going to use BP's, but only did it when asked, an that you wish you hadn't then. At that point, I wouldn't see any problem with them booting you for someone who would heal.

Second, how the hell can you be dynamic? You use a BP every minute, wow how dynamic. When not main healing, it's probably just some BP used to MB for the skillchain and that's hardly dynamic.

Last, what needed to be done was healing, and aparently you didn't want to do that. At the point you weren't doing what "needed to be done" you're a waste of a party slot.

 

[Sethala]

I'd say something about how SMN should be used in a party and all that, but I am somewhat confused by just what you think SMN should do, Answa. So, I'm going to ask: what is an ideal party setup for you, and what exactly will you be doing in that setup? After you say that I'll post my thoughts on the situation.

 

[Legomyeggo]

I hate mage flames, always so fuckin boring...

 

[Rones]

Something I missed in my previous post was the comment that you had a nin tank. What kind of party with a nin tank needs a whm and smn? This is even worse 70+ as you can no longer find ITs, making nins need even less curing. Every party I've had with a nin 70+, my healing ability was totally unneeded and excessive, yet you want a smn and a whm. :roll: That's just lazy.

Like Baj said, just what are you doing between blood pacts that is so dynamic and fun that is beneficial for the party and prevents you from main healing? Watching your summon whiff and drain mp might be entertaining, but is far from beneficial to the party.

The BLM had no grounds on thinking I was an ass towards him. I didn't do anything bad towards him or the party.

Did you not? You went in with a bad attitude, sarcasm, happiness that the rdm had to eat a r1, disrepct to the party leader, and tried to play sub par. I think the blm not warping you was karma catching up with you.

And you're not my favorite person right now.

And why's that? Because I disagreed with you and did not provide the pity party you seem to be seeking?

 

[xKronox]

I hate mage flames, always so fuckin boring...

Oh because those flames about DD's not brining oils to the party are always SO FUCKING exciting. And for the record, you suck as a RNG.


Haha jk. <3 :lol:

 

[Xadoc]

Hey I don't know why everyone is getting so pissy at Answa for not healing as summoner. I mean if a summoner doesn't feel like healing when you don't have a whm handy they shouldn't have to right? Just like with me, I'm a pld and everyone always wants me to tank, what the hell is up with that? Oh you're one of the *best suited for the job* they say, but screw them if I wear all DD gear and use a Great Sword I can do a little damage and I can heal a little bit to boot. So bottom line I think "I don't feel like doing the work my job is designed to do" is a perfect reason for not doing it..... isn't it?

 

[Bajaratt]

Hey I don't know why everyone is getting so pissy at Answa for not healing as summoner. I mean if a summoner doesn't feel like healing when you don't have a whm handy they shouldn't have to right? Just like with me, I'm a pld and everyone always wants me to tank, what the hell is up with that? Oh you're one of the *best suited for the job* they say, but screw them if I wear all DD gear and use a Great Sword I can do a little damage and I can heal a little bit to boot. So bottom line I think "I don't feel like doing the work my job is designed to do" is a perfect reason for not doing it..... isn't it?

If someone gets a smn for the purpose of main healing, and they don't like to do that, the SMN can decline/leave. Now, I know that SMN invites aren't all that plentiful, but if it's going to be more of a chore than a fun party, maybe they should just not join. If you were invited as a pld and you said you didn't want to tank, I'm sure you'd be replaced. The fact of the matter is that he didn't want to perform his role in the party, and was therefore a hindrence to the party.

Oh, and I know a PLD who's done that DD stuff before in an exp party. He wasn't really meant to tank that much(2 MNK and a RNG; and again in a bones party with 2 mnk), but he's done it. I even lent him my scorp harness and snipers so that he could actually land a hit.

 

[deathsvengeance]

I have partied with SMN as main heal and SMN as supporter/melee/dd. Both are fine with me, but I'd prefer to have a WHM main heal anyday.

Honestly, I don't really care as long as I don't have to do it >.>

RDM/BLM main heal.. no thanks. lol

 

[Answa~]

omfg, the points wasn't about me not main healing, you all totally went out the theme. I don't want to argue about my abilities as a SMN, I suck at telling stats. I just felt horrible yesterday because I had -EXP while doing something I don't like. Lay off my back. I'm not going to change my opinion from anything you guys tell me. It's not fun for me to heal, period. But I heal when I'm asked to BEFORE I get invited, get the point?

And Xadoc, nice sarcasm. ^^

I already expressed to Sabia how I feel about healing ingame, we both know our opinions, I respect hers and I think she respects mine. But please, this debate always happens and no one ever wins truly, everyone just comes off as asses.

And, no, I don't want a "pity party" I just wanted to flame this bad situation.

I DID MY JOB. I healed, I used Paralyna and Silena, I used BPs, and no one died. I think I did my job. And I didn't laugh at the RDM getting Raise I, I just found it ironic that she died before the party started only to get a Raise I.

And, Rones, back off. Post 70 we get the BPs that deal massive damage. And WHM is never a waste in a party. I assure you.

Now, this happened yesterday, it's in the past, I don't care anymore, 'm going to log on and forget this happened, good day, QCDN, and thanks for your heartfelt support.