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[Uzor]

The JPN promised N.heads to NA's to use them in their shells for the real drops. The majority of the JPN HNM populus has these as well as other fafnir drops, however a relative newbie to the Fafnir scene like proph or Fubio could be told to be a claimbot in exchange for N.gear.

This is why I really don't understand why people join these shells...but anyway, back on topic

newbies? Lol, they were far from newbies to the Fafnir scene. Proph have been camping Fafnir since begining of time pretty much <.< not sure when Fubio started doing it, but I wouldn't consider him a newbie. And yes, he hacked too.

 

[Khajit]

I'll be more specific, it's all luck.

Let me get this straight..
You claim kaizen gets it's high claim rate from pure skill but attribute claims for everyone else (regardless of botting or non botting)to be based purely on luck?

 

[Blabj]

I go clean and it turns out everyone is dirty.

Isn't that something.

I bet I can get into Perseverance now that all the prejudice is with me, not against me!

 

[jamal]

newbies? Lol, they were far from newbies to the Fafnir scene. Proph have been camping Fafnir since begining of time pretty much <.< not sure when Fubio started doing it, but I wouldn't consider him a newbie. And yes, he hacked too.

I said relative. Compared to everyone else there, they are relative newbies to camping faf. I know OH camped it, but they did not do it religiously. In relative terms, when Prophecy joined HA, he was a newbie to the Fafnir Scene, same as Fubio.

 

[Uzor]

Let me get this straight..
You claim kaizen gets it's high claim rate from pure skill but attribute claims for everyone else (regardless of botting or non botting)to be based purely on luck?

That's elitism at its best.

 

[Dowzer]

Oh and I used the word skill alot for a specific reason, and it's that I wasn't the person person to throw out the idea about skill > bots.

I'm sure it's needless to say this, because I bet you've experienced the trend of claiming patterns. Especially considering the low claim rate, the Fafnir's/etc you did get were more than likely pure luck if no bots were involved.

Luck > Bots > Skill

In that specific order.

Sure, it's obvious HA cheats their claims. However, during my time with them I claimed a few times as well. The first ever Nidhogg I saw, I claimed while in a pop PT and a King Behemoth while solo. Kiiro and Scwall both claimed a few times as well.

Fast forward a few years later and I'm sitting beside a lake, wondering just how much the NM claiming scene has changed. Well, it hasn't. It still requires Luck > Bots > Skill. Where's the lake? Jugner. King Arthro pops and I claimed while solo with Stone as THF/BLM...

Legitimate luck will outclaim a bot, I know from experience. A bot will outclaim an unlucky skilled claimer. I've noticed this pattern from large HNM to small, green, whithering little Tonberry.

 

[Uzor]

actually, scratch that. That's way beyond elitism. That's borderline.... hell if I know.

 

[Daveman]

I'll be more specific, it's all luck.

I'm not even gonna bother to make a sarcastic argument about how lucky your ls must be compared to mine, and compared to the "haxxor" pers/ha/integral shells.

Oh wait might as well point it out! You guys are just as lucky as perserverence, just as lucky and integral, just as lucky as happy angel, and a ton more lucky than 2/43 legit fafnir claims! The luck you guys display at aspid compared to us was great too, kaizen and integral are alot more lucky than us.

It's all luck.

 

[Blackchaoshero]

I said relative. Compared to everyone else there, they are relative newbies to camping faf. I know OH camped it, but they did not do it religiously. In relative terms, when Prophecy joined HA, he was a newbie to the Fafnir Scene, same as Fubio.

They did it religiously for a decent span of time. proph wanted Mbody pretty bad.

 

[neophytal]

I don't see anyone backing up Lavi and Zoolander. We just "respect" them for doing the opposite of what you're doing.

i don't respect anyone on the list. so leave me out of the "respect" part.

Let me get this straight..
You claim kaizen gets it's high claim rate from pure skill but attribute claims for everyone else (regardless of botting or non botting)to be based purely on luck?

where are you getting high claim rate from? lol look at my blog from end of august (when i stopped camping kings due to rl conflicts) and like even june. theres jack shit there. im not sure what sept-oct has been like, but really, this high claim rate thing is bs.

 

[Dowzer]

The JPN promised N.heads to NA's to use them in their shells for the real drops. The majority of the JPN HNM populus has these as well as other fafnir drops, however a relative newbie to the Fafnir scene like proph or Fubio could be told to be a claimbot in exchange for N.gear.

This is why I really don't understand why people join these shells...but anyway, back on topic

Kiiro obtained N.head before Katsuochan, Hiri, Nyuisusu(sp), and Kurei too. I was also #1 for N.legs which Amidamaru received because I left the shell.

 

[Raesvelg]

I don't see anyone backing up Lavi and Zoolander. We just "respect" them for doing the opposite of what you're doing.

I wouldn't go that far to call it respect.

Frankly, if I were a lead in any shell, I'd go down the list and kick anyone on it. Period. If there's sufficient evidence, you're gone. Your friends in the shell are irrelevant, your past contributions rendered meaningless by one simple act of stupidity.

If I were a member in a shell that refused to kick someone caught hacking, I'd leave.

What we're in right now is the part that defines whether or not I'll respect the people involved. Pretty sure by the time I come back from South Carolina everything that's going to be resolved will be resolved and I'll get to decide exactly where I stand on how things wound up.

 

[jamal]

They did it religiously for a decent span of time. proph wanted Mbody pretty bad.

It was a couple of months, if that. They did get one Nidhogg, giving JB his e.body. I was there everytime they were there...and everytime they weren't.

 

[Mattaru]

i don't respect anyone on the list. so leave me out of the "respect" part.

I'm going to agree with this. All I ask is that people view each name equally despite their relation.

 

[Uzor]

I said relative. Compared to everyone else there, they are relative newbies to camping faf. I know OH camped it, but they did not do it religiously. In relative terms, when Prophecy joined HA, he was a newbie to the Fafnir Scene, same as Fubio.

They, and me, had camped it before the days on OH. Prophecy camped it when the first JP camped them.

 

[jamal]

Kiiro obtained N.head before Katsuochan, Hiri, Nyuisusu(sp), and Kurei too. I was also #1 for N.legs which Amidamaru received because I left the shell.

Because they can promise you that gear in exchange for you getting them m.body and ridill...I'd take that trade anyday. Wait for n.head, have ridill now.

 

[Uzor]

and god damn it, you people missed my point. I said "respect", not respect. We simply don't give them shit about it beyond the original disappointment posts. they admitted what they did and said it was wrong etc. You can't flame them for that since they just take it, and it wouldn't feed the flames. I didn't mean respect as in you respoect them, hence the "'s.

 

[beeznuts]

God dammit, how come I miss all the cool threads.
Also, why couldn't Taj stick to doing things like this, rather than stealing accounts? His name should be at the top, king of garbage atop his pieces of shit who actually do this sort of thing. Yes, I called every last one of you pieces of shit, just like I always have, and I will never stop doing so.

 

[Rhaddy]

Crosis enjoys boasting.

AFAIK Vill's character is once again in Vill's possession. I don't know the date for sure, but Vill stopped playing around the same time I started playing again (Jan 2007?) That would put the purchase date by the original Vill. Now, we already know that the application is linked by char name, so you really don't have anything to go on from that page to accuse Demir. Also given my personal knowledge and Demir's gimpness I would find it very hard to believe he's using anything but his own lushang and his 90 or whatever fishing to get those soles.

Mattimer's situation already been addressed. Agris, if it is the same Agris, also doesn't play anymore.

 

[Dowzer]

Because they can promise you that gear in exchange for you getting them m.body and ridill...I'd take that trade anyday. Wait for n.head, have ridill now.

What do you mean? Kiiro left the shell a year+++ before they received their first Ridill. Fubio received E.body before most deserving JP members too. They were very fair with item distribution.