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Arctyrael said:
Speaking only off statistics, statistics alone, and an empirical comparison of known botting shells vs. undetermined shells - Kaizen's claim rate is equivalent to the shells that bot.

That can either be a compliment to your members or a reality check to the leaders.
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I guess you miss times where we go three months and claim Fafnir twice.

Rappa since you are probably talking to me, did I say anywhere we are squeaky clean? Nope. Will I deny the possibility that anyone in our shell hacks? No. ANYONE can. Until those people are caught however there is nothing that can be done. If they are caught they will be gone.

Is Zoolander gonna leave Perseverence? Nope. If one of our leaders was caught hacking they would be gone.
 
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Crosis said:
Oh yes Mattimer! The same Mattimer that hasn't been in our ls for over a year and a half and with the bot date that was bought in April of 2007. The Mattimer that was in Kaizen sold his account. Keep trying Lavi!
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Crosis...Crosis...christ we need some nuns around to beat you with rulers. I hope you are Catholic. Don't you remember that whole scandal that the seller of the "Mattimer" account was scammed out of it? So if you are going to try to recall history; at least please make sure all the points are presented.

As for Chronicles not being on this list; well Odon pretty much said it best that there are other programs out there. All these "underground" hacking forums are just a dime a dozen. All comes down to a person's internet savvy...just buy the first one they come across or spend some time researching and find programs that are free and produce the same gains.

As for Lavi; Kireek still thinks of you fondly.
 
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Blackchaoshero said:
Look, Rise hacked. Most of rise hacked. I've heard admissions from a lot of people including 2 IRL friends that there was massive hack usage and vang was urging people in the shell to use them. The scope of the hacking if these things haven't been too greatly embelished is... ya... rise hacked a lot.

still, lol
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Actually, only a small handful of people in Rise hacked, against the policy of the LS. We found this out after the shell broke, and that handful wanted everyone else to start doing it in the reformed shell.

Needless to say, we (by we I mean myself, Reya, and Aragaeon) considered that to be unacceptable and refused to have anything to do with it.
 
Crosis said:
Rappa since you are probably talking to me
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Actually I wasn't. ;) I'm in the middle of a business trip so my qcdn time is limited and I can't immediately reply to topics like I'd like to, lol.
 
Crosis said:
I guess you miss times where we go three months and claim Fafnir twice.

Rappa since you are probably talking to me, did I say anywhere we are squeaky clean? Nope. Will I deny the possibility that anyone in our shell hacks? No. ANYONE can. Until those people are caught however there is nothing that can be done. If they are caught they will be gone.

Is Zoolander gonna leave Perseverence? Nope. If one of our leaders was caught hacking they would be gone.
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Your shell does not camp Fafnir every single possible time, so really - I suppose that would depend on how many times you camped it vs. your claim rate in those 3 months. Integral surely gets an unfair number of claims - hell they can claim with 6 members when the Aery has 100+ people in it. I'm just sayin, you have extremely good claim numbers. That is either complimentary or indicative.
 
Crosis said:
I guess you miss times where we go three months and claim Fafnir twice.

Rappa since you are probably talking to me, did I say anywhere we are squeaky clean? Nope. Will I deny the possibility that anyone in our shell hacks? No. ANYONE can. Until those people are caught however there is nothing that can be done. If they are caught they will be gone.

Is Zoolander gonna leave Perseverence? Nope. If one of our leaders was caught hacking they would be gone.
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I think its just the general consensus that since Tailss posted this everyone assumes its a Kaizen waving the almighty finger at people, which I don't think is the intent.

Rappa was just commenting on how the posts should be structured to avoid misconceptions that are silly. There have been quite a few kaizen members posting for lack of a better phrase "Our shit don't stink"

Instead, like you're explaining, it should be "If our shit does stink, if its brown, flush it down"
 
I want to remember previous accusations of past OH members (and myself) being accused of hacking with no proof, from both Kaizen/Pers etc. members alike.

Personally I find this topic a great source of hypocrisy and entertainment. And no, I won't even try to say that my name not appearing on that list makes me clean. Because I'm well-aware of the amount of hacks out there, and how easy it would be to get your hands on hacks that won't result in your name being on a list.

However, I love Crosis and Tailss's attitude. Its the very same one I and many others used while trying to cover up OH's hacks :nyam:
 
What if it's a creepy pale green?
 
Uzor said:
I and many others used while trying to cover up OH's hacks :nyam:
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lol, not a blanket large enough to cover that mess.
 
Vilurum said:
What if it's a creepy pale green?
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Call the government. They're ovviously possessed by aliens.

and btw, you wouldn't come off so suspicious if you had Villarell's attitude, Crosis/Tailss
 
bah, I mean Vilurum, naturally
 
jamal said:
Instead, like you're explaining, it should be "If our shit does stink, if its brown, flush it down"
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Would this make Zoolander a brown trout that didn't swim away?
 
Crosis said:
Until you find a member in our LS who does hack, shut the hell up. And if you did they would be banned. Sick of this attitude, you bypass those that have been caught and try to finger other people when there is no evidence otherwise.
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Sorry I forgot that you linkshell was very skilled at claiming. Hey why don't you tell us how to claim? Maybe when fafnir rolls around to a time we're more comfortable with we'll be able to claim. Or is it "top secret" about how you don't need to kill darters, and how you can humanly calculate you JA/spell to off in the less than 1 second window of being able to claim?

I'm not implying anything if you have serious legit methods that work, then let us know. Oh and you better not mention any of the dozens of things we have tried. Maybe one day all linkshells will be as skillful at claiming as yours and we can get rid of the need for anyone to ever be tempted to download a bot. Hell I'll even send you ~50+ screenshots of NM pops where I'm obviously not botting, later ones with the timestamp plugin, maybe you can give me tips and pointers at how to be a more skilled claimer?

We can even bring our whole ls near a crag and we'll receive lessons from you on claiming low level mobs. Oh an I'm dead serious, if you can legit claim then let us know, cause thus far legit claiming has gotten my shell nowhere.


P.S. If your shell bots, this post is sarcastic, if you're all legit, this post is serious. Up to you.
 
Sirelrohir said:
Crosis...Crosis...christ we need some nuns around to beat you with rulers. I hope you are Catholic. Don't you remember that whole scandal that the seller of the "Mattimer" account was scammed out of it? So if you are going to try to recall history; at least please make sure all the points are presented.
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Oh it's that guy who follows me around, hi Sire!

I know the history genius but you don't apparently. Mattimer sold his account to his friend. His friend played it for a bit then got bored and tried to sell his account on paypal to that taru Deathsomething. It sold but Death got the info and then took his money back from Matt's friend screwing him over.

This also has nothing to do with anything so good you brought it up Sire.
 
Crosis said:
I know the history genius but you don't apparently. Mattimer sold his account to his friend. His friend played it for a bit then got bored and tried to sell his account on paypal to that taru Deathsomething. It sold but Death got the info and then took his money back from Matt's friend screwing him over.
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All correct, and it should be noted that the person Deathchild who got the Mattimer account through illicit means did so in November 2006. The hacks were purchased on that account in April 2007 according to the link in the OP.
 
Fellina said:
All correct, and it should be noted that the person Deathchild who got the Mattimer account through illicit means did so in November 2006. The hacks were purchased on that account in April 2007 according to the link in the OP.
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Like I mentioned earlier, no surprise.
 
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