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despite the fact that Prophecy were in GM jail for hacking and teleported out of jail to give people his items in case he did get banned. Which, btw, he never were.

Fun story about GM incompetence.
 
jamal said:
Seriously, drop the elitest attitude. Kaizen is implicated as well.

Vilarrel is controlled by Demir...

Don't make this shell against shell, because then everyone loses.
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never knew demir controlled vill, but Villarel, 2006-06-22 was awhile ago. dont know when he gained control of it or if its ran on it anymore.

Zoolander said:
Christ man, grow the fuck up. You still act like a little prick to anyone outside of Kaizen. Yea, Ls rivalry blah blah, but for fucks sake, you take it to the level of a preschooler. Sorry if it strikes some nerve with you, but what Raes said is pretty damn accurate. For fucks sake, you guys STILL talk about the god damn gaiters and blitz ring. Do you have any idea how dead those horses are, how baseless your claims are (to the point your old/current LS leader was embarassed for you and your sockpuppets), and how much everyone laughs that you all obsessed over a fucking ring one of our wars stood around in town with?
Grow up.
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its like one of those videos, thats such a classic, no matter how many times you revisit it, its still funny.
 
neophytal said:
never knew demir controlled vill, but Villarel, 2006-06-22 was awhile ago. dont know when he gained control of it or if its ran on it anymore.
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Well, its making a killing on black sole and selling his nq staves...I'm just pointing this out so you guys can't keep saying you're squeeky clean. Like Raesvelg said, there's a very good chance someone inside is hacking.
 
Crosis said:
So if my name showed up your stupid ass would be pointing at me right? Thought there 20 other Crosis's you'd still assume it was me because I'm Kaizen. Dur dur.
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The problem with garbage like you is that you point the finger at everyone else and you ignore the possibility it's also within your shell. You assume the worst of everyone else, but you expect the best from your own. Well, guess what? It works both ways. Everyone is thinking the same thing, your shit stinks. Worse yet, you deny every shred of evidence and with what reason? Because maybe the guy on Midgar bots the AH for windurstian tea leaves or the guy who quit? It can't be the most obvious one, the player who camps DA day in and day out. No way at all...

And it has nothing to do with you being Kaizen and everything to do with the attitude expressed. Your entire shell basically jumped over everyone like dogs to a piece of meat and meanwhile, there's plenty of meat to be had in your shell. So get off the high horse and come back down to the real worlds with the rest of us.
 
I don't give two shits about linkshell rivalries. I just think it's god damn funny that your leaders can "drop" gaiters, make up rules to fuck members over, kick people over not getting poisona, and suspect members of botting (Hi again jakey) and not do anything yet still run a shell. Oh I missed one weren't you a leader in there too?
 
Mattaru said:
Just for reference
2 Milgards - Both are reasonable
4 Agris - 2 reasonable
4 Maks - 2 reasonable
1 Gannon
1 Mattimer

When I say reasonable I mean...they probably arent using ffxiapp to corner the Chamomille Tea market.
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Big surprise you are an idiot who doesn't read as always. Agris is listed under unknown, there are at least 4 Agris's on other servers. Hey there is only ONE CHEMIRA.
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Back on like page 3 or wherever it was I put this up after cross referencing it to FFXIAH. The point of it wasn't to say look such and such most likely bots as much as to raise the shadow of doubt in response to making this thread.

Point being as much as we like to think that no one among us bots or has ever tried to bot/hack, its almost impossible to know for sure, so be careful when pointing a finger. I think it as funny as anyone that Tailss pointed out Zoolander and some Integral members were pointed out espescially considering the day in Rise where Zoolander told Vang I know of two people in the shell that use hacks xD.

To me honestly I think even if there were three Chemira and three Zoolanders most everyone here would immediately think of the ones on our servers since they are involved in prominent endgame shells, to scold others for doing the same to people you may know is unreasonable as long as they are not being childish about it. IE I told you so!!
 
Strid said:
I think you should calm down man. Check the date on when the App. was bought. It's highly possible BDF could have bought it before you obtained his account. If I remember right, wasn't he playin' in '07 a little bit after his big trip or something? If that's not the case, then someone, you, him, or anyone who would have the account information (which you did/do have to provide for the service) did buy the program for whatever reason, not only to the extent of fishing. Check the date though.
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Bigdumbface, 2007-09-16
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letters.
 
Mattaru said:
the day in Rise where Zoolander told Vang I know of two people in the shell that use hacks xD.
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Look, Rise hacked. Most of rise hacked. I've heard admissions from a lot of people including 2 IRL friends that there was massive hack usage and vang was urging people in the shell to use them. The scope of the hacking if these things haven't been too greatly embelished is... ya... rise hacked a lot.

still, lol
 
Lavi said:
The problem with garbage like you is that you point the finger at everyone else and you ignore the possibility it's also within your shell. You assume the worst of everyone else, but you expect the best from your own. Well, guess what? It works both ways. Everyone is thinking the same thing, your shit stinks. Worse yet, you deny every shred of evidence and with what reason? Because maybe the guy on Midgar bots the AH for windurstian tea leaves or the guy who quit? It can't be the most obvious one, the player who camps DA day in and day out. No way at all...

And it has nothing to do with you being Kaizen and everything to do with the attitude expressed. Your entire shell basically jumped over everyone like dogs to a piece of meat and meanwhile, there's plenty of meat to be had in your shell. So get off the high horse and come back down to the real worlds with the rest of us.
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I'm sorry Lavi I can't hear you, it's drown out by the sound of Chemira's bot voking Fafnir. I like how all flames with proof of different LS's hacking turn towards us because we are laughing at them.

"Oh if we do it, you must too!" Yet you have no proof otherwise but a huge fucking stamp of approval pointing at your own members.

I like my high horse, sorry. If anyone in our LS is shown to be hacking they will be gone. Though I have this funny feeling that Chemira and JohnnyB will still be Integral when I logon later today.
 
jamal said:
Well, its making a killing on black sole and selling his nq staves...I'm just pointing this out so you guys can't keep saying you're squeeky clean. Like Raesvelg said, there's a very good chance someone inside is hacking.
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Rule Number 1: Know your competition. Demir and Vilarrel are in Northern San'doria together while he does his staves...on auto-follow. This is when I first got suspicious after seeing HUGE amounts of gil being thrown at buying beads off the AH, making the market worse for everyone.

I would have kept this to myself were it not for the attitudes on this thread that people can do no wrong. I've known he was probably fishbotting on a separate pc while playing on Demir for awhile now. Mistra's a friend of mine, and if he's gonna be burned at the stake, you better be burning everyone.
 
Chemira was kicked for unrelated things earlier this week I think.
 
I will laugh so bad when your high horse gets shot.
 
C'mon guys, we know kaizen has at least one hack using member. The ls is too large and there's way too many things you can do outside of voke-botting with hacks that will still benefit your shell. To adamantly admit otherwise is just being silly. No one was caught in this wave, but sometime in the future it very well could happen. The smart thing to say is "As far as we know, we don't have any botters" rather than straight up saying you don't. That way if one is found out you don't come out looking like a tard when people dig up your old quotes about your guaranteed squeaky clean ls.
 
Speaking only off statistics, statistics alone, and an empirical comparison of known botting shells vs. undetermined shells - Kaizen's claim rate is equivalent to the shells that bot.

That can either be a compliment to your members or a reality check to the leaders.
 
Oh and as an off and on fisherman, I can tell you I've seen the villarel character botting (and I can't stress enough that it wasn't him controlling the character), along with a few others on the list (all controlled by the same person). They are people I know and they ignored waves and tells while we were fishing side-by-side.
 
Crosis said:
Until you find a member in our LS who does hack, shut the hell up. And if you did they would be banned. Sick of this attitude, you bypass those that have been caught and try to finger other people when there is no evidence otherwise.
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I don't have to point any fingers at anyone. A number of the individuals in question already stepped up and admitted it.

Note the key word, individuals.

This offers no proof that Perseverance hacks/bots. It's on Zoolander. Just Zoolander. If Taj hacked into Pers' board and found a secret hacking tool page (where have we seen that before), THEN it would be on Pers.

I also don't have to shut up, tough guy.
 
Rappa said:
C'mon guys, we know kaizen has at least one hack using member. The ls is too large and there's way too many things you can do outside of voke-botting with hacks that will still benefit your shell. To adamantly admit otherwise is just being silly. No one was caught in this wave, but sometime in the future it very well could happen. The smart thing to say is "As far as we know, we don't have any botters" rather than straight up saying you don't. That way if one is found out you don't come out looking like a tard when people dig up your old quotes about your guaranteed squeaky clean ls.
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I would rate you up, but it appears you make too many informed, intelligent, and logical posts.
 
Rappa said:
Oh and as an off and on fisherman, I can tell you I've seen the villarel character botting (and I can't stress enough that it wasn't him controlling the character), along with a few others on the list (all controlled by the same person). They are people I know and they ignored waves and tells while we were fishing side-by-side.
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It's also a hell of a lot of sole to be fishing up in 2 days. Well seeing how fucking quick I get fatigued when fishing on Chii in SSG.
 
Arctyrael said:
Speaking only off statistics, statistics alone, and an empirical comparison of known botting shells vs. undetermined shells - Kaizen's claim rate is equivalent to the shells that bot.

That can either be a compliment to your members or a reality check to the leaders.
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really? i havent camped much in the last month or so, but our claim rate has pretty much sucked ass for months. talk to happyangel specifically.
 
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