Some cool names

[jamal]

AFAIK Vill's character is once again in Vill's possession. I don't know the date for sure, but Vill stopped playing around the same time I started playing again (Jan 2007?) That would put the purchase date by the original Vill. Now, we already know that the application is linked by char name, so you really don't have anything to go on from that page to accuse Demir. Also given my personal knowledge and Demir's gimpness I would find it very hard to believe he's using anything but his own lushang and his 90 or whatever fishing to get those soles.

The screenshots I have prove otherwise. Villarel doesn't have 100+3 WW. Demir does.

 

[jamal]

Someone forgot to tell him to keep things on the DL until the smoke clears...this is just from the last post I had:

See bottom three. Check Vilarrel on FFXIAH.com to make sure I'm not fabricating this.

Stop denying it and look at the facts.

 

[jamal]

6 NQ Staves inbetween LOADS of Black sole all within the last 3 days.

Staves are from demir obviously, sole from fishbotting. So maybe you just made villarel take back the account, but as of two days ago, it sure wasn't.

 

[Mattaru]

Mystery of Capital or QCDN flameboard.

Why are choices in life so hard.

 

[Rhaddy]

The screenshots I have prove otherwise. Villarel doesn't have 100+3 WW. Demir does.

Proof otherwise that what? That Demir is still playing Villarel? I don't see how that making staves proves a connection, at best, it shows a possibility. I don't see how you can prove any of this, as I can't really as well, and can only speculate.

 

[Audino]

It makes my day when hotshot assholes like Zoolander get exposed in this sort of thing. No one gives a shit people like you and Daveman didn't get your money's worth. Everyone on that list is really pathetic.

 

[Cadiance]

I just want to say, I honestly have never bought any hacks for FFXI, ever. I haven't noticed this thread existed until a friend of mine told me. According to ffxiah.com there are atleast 7 different Gannon on different servers. All I can say that it isn't me who bought it.

The unknown section isn't 100% on the people who have baught it because if the same name is on several different servers it could be any of them.

I saw Lionsheart on that list, pissed me off because some fool is killing my old server name.

 

[jamal]

Proof otherwise that what? That Demir is still playing Villarel? I don't see how that making staves proves a connection, at best, it shows a possibility. I don't see how you can prove any of this, as I can't really as well, and can only speculate.

God, you are so fucking blind. You can't point out other people and protect your own. Of course he's not going to admit to it. But the speculation is pretty credible, considering I've been watching Vil and Demir for months since he started paying outrageous prices for Beads. This explains quite a bit tbh.

You can say its not affecting Kaizen, and Demir isn't using the hacks on his character, and that may be the truth. But you can't say your LS is hack free by any means.

 

[Rhaddy]

6 NQ Staves inbetween LOADS of Black sole all within the last 3 days.

Staves are from demir obviously, sole from fishbotting. So maybe you just made villarel take back the account, but as of two days ago, it sure wasn't.

Er, AFAIK Vill took the account back more than two days ago. Been about a week or two. Can't give you a better time frame, but I'm sure other people could.

 

[Khajit]

a few things
1. I will NOT script anyone a windower macrobot despite the fact that it's writing the lines to dig then cut+paste 10 billion times. so stop asking me.

2. if you have a rebuttal to anything i say . say it in a calm logical manner that actually makes sense in said thread and NOT via PM. Using nonsense logic doesnt work on changing my mind. you did infact say it takes skill to claim fafnir/KB/ect by insinuating that it takes skill to not claim a darter that one can easily kill BEFORE the window opens. Because of that i'd say even claiming a darter takes a shitload of skill considering that doing so breaks the laws of space/time if you used your head and just killed the darters beforehand.

 

[jamal]

Er, AFAIK Vill took the account back more than two days ago. Been about a week or two. Can't give you a better time frame, but I'm sure other people could.

I'm sure they can all 'say' that it was a week or two ago, however far back the FFXIAH history goes.

Like I said, I've been watching for months.

 

[Tymon]

But you can't say your LS is hack free by any means.

no one has been able to say that...ever?

maybe not ever, but a damn long time

 

[Tymon]

a few things
1. I will NOT script anyone a windower macrobot despite the fact that it's writing the lines to dig then cut+paste 10 billion times. so stop asking me.

2. if you have a rebuttal to anything i say . say it in a calm logical manner that actually makes sense in said thread and NOT via PM. Using nonsense logic doesnt work on changing my mind. you did infact say it takes skill to claim fafnir/KB/ect by insinuating that it takes skill to not claim a darter that one can easily kill BEFORE the window opens. Because of that i'd say even claiming a darter takes a shitload of skill considering that doing so breaks the laws of space/time if you used your head and just killed the darters beforehand.

I have no idea what goes on now but when I used to camp fafnir there was always at least 1 LS that killed them right before his window.

 

[beeznuts]

no one has been able to say that...ever?

maybe not ever, but a damn long time

I think it's not so much what they did about it while not knowing, as what they do about it now that they know...

 

[Rhaddy]

God, you are so fucking blind. You can't point out other people and protect your own. Of course he's not going to admit to it. But the speculation is pretty credible, considering I've been watching Vil and Demir for months since he started paying outrageous prices for Beads. This explains quite a bit tbh.

You can say its not affecting Kaizen, and Demir isn't using the hacks on his character, and that may be the truth. But you can't say your LS is hack free by any means.

I don't really think I've been pointing out any people. If you'd like to find a post that states otherwise, please show me, because my involvement in this thread was basically to state that I don't personally think that this list affects my attitude towards shells, and more my attitudes towards individuals.

What you said is that you had proof. Now you've downgraded it to speculation and said its "pretty credible." I'm not trying to nitpick, but the difference is pretty big from "pretty credible" speculation and proof. If you say you have proof, I'm thinking something that is more than just conjecture, which is why I questioned what exact proof you have and what exactly it proves. Not as a means to undermine your argument, but to actually find out if you had something else besides SS from FFXIAH.

Don't get it twisted. I'm not "protecting" anyone. Take a look at what I said. Everything up to this point I've mentioned is speculation and opinion, just like you. I don't have any proof besides what I think I know, and you don't have any either.

 

[Tymon]

I think it's not so much what they did about it while not knowing, as what they do about it now that they know...

what this server needs is one of those shells on some other servers I know that everyone knows they hack, and they boast about it all the time

makes for great times.

in regards to the post though, even if they know, if it's benefiting them in any sort of way most people would try to keep it quiet and support it wholeheartedly, even promote it to as many people in LS as possible (read: OH)

when called out on it, deny, when faced with proof promise "action" and deliver no such thing

I could go on.

 

[beeznuts]

what this server needs is one of those shells on some other servers I know that everyone knows they hack, and they boast about it all the time

makes for great times.

in regards to the post though, even if they know, if it's benefiting them in any sort of way most people would try to keep it quiet and support it wholeheartedly, even promote it to as many people in LS as possible (read: OH)

when called out on it, deny, when faced with proof promise "action" and deliver no such thing

I could go on.

This is why, while I've always wanted to participate in endgame and HNMs more heavily, I never did. It's not just the cheats, it's the attitudes. This is another topic for another time though.

 

[jamal]

What you said is that you had proof. Now you've downgraded it to speculation and said its "pretty credible." I'm not trying to nitpick, but the difference is pretty big from "pretty credible" speculation and proof. If you say you have proof, I'm thinking something that is more than just conjecture, which is why I questioned what exact proof you have and what exactly it proves. Not as a means to undermine your argument, but to actually find out if you had something else besides SS from FFXIAH.

I don't play windowed most of the time, so no, I don't have 'proof' of Demir running around N.Sandy with Vil on autofollow, then synthing staves, then demir turning to vil, then both of them running off together, then seeing staves sold by Vil. I also have better things to do than sit next to a fisherman and try to talk to see if they're a bot...so no I don't have that proof.

But I have received confirmation. I'm usually not wrong about things, and this is another one of those cases.

 

[Rhaddy]

I don't play windowed most of the time, so no, I don't have 'proof' of Demir running around N.Sandy with Vil on autofollow, then synthing staves, then demir turning to vil, then both of them running off together, then seeing staves sold by Vil. I also have better things to do than sit next to a fisherman and try to talk to see if they're a bot...so no I don't have that proof.

But I have received confirmation. I'm usually not wrong about things, and this is another one of those cases.

So tell me why I'm blind because I'm remaining doubtful when you're admitting that there are other possibilities?

 

[Uzor]

I don't really think I've been pointing out any people. If you'd like to find a post that states otherwise, please show me, because my involvement in this thread was basically to state that I don't personally think that this list affects my attitude towards shells, and more my attitudes towards individuals.

What you said is that you had proof. Now you've downgraded it to speculation and said its "pretty credible." I'm not trying to nitpick, but the difference is pretty big from "pretty credible" speculation and proof. If you say you have proof, I'm thinking something that is more than just conjecture, which is why I questioned what exact proof you have and what exactly it proves. Not as a means to undermine your argument, but to actually find out if you had something else besides SS from FFXIAH.

Don't get it twisted. I'm not "protecting" anyone. Take a look at what I said. Everything up to this point I've mentioned is speculation and opinion, just like you. I don't have any proof besides what I think I know, and you don't have any either.

His "proof" is strenghtened by the fact that Vill is on the list. And the list have not been wrong yet, so its obviously not 4000 random names picked out for Epic.

I don't play windowed most of the time, so no, I don't have 'proof' of Demir running around N.Sandy with Vil on autofollow, then synthing staves, then demir turning to vil, then both of them running off together, then seeing staves sold by Vil. I also have better things to do than sit next to a fisherman and try to talk to see if they're a bot...so no I don't have that proof.

But I have received confirmation. I'm usually not wrong about things, and this is another one of those cases.

I'd rate you up for that if I could =/