Yes, why?kisada said:how come you're such a stupidhead?
Yes, why?kisada said:how come you're such a stupidhead?
kisada said:how come you're such a stupidhead?
Sirelrohir said:that was a long time ago, and is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
This is the point: Your ls has members, such as yourself, who will go out of their way to attempt to make someone look like a cheater.
Crosis said:How the hell are we elitist? You think we don't help people? How do we "continulously" screw the community? The whole 8-10 autumnstones we have bought in a year, half coming from JP and half possibly coming from RMT, really screws the community? Ulli pops at least twice a day genius.
Are you in our LS? No, so fuck off and stop bitching about shit you know nothing about you jealous prick.
Apu said:Rofl, ok i'll take this in pieces: (All personal Opinion)
"How the hell are we elitist?"
-Um lets just say the attitude of every member of that ls that i have
spoke to has had the "We Are Gods" complex. Minus 1 member named
Meastoso with which i had a civilized conversation.
"You think we don't help people?"
-Never said you didn't, I said do more of it
"Autumnstones we have bought in a year, half coming from JP and half possibly coming from RMT, really screws the community?"
-As this whole flame has made pretty obvious. Do you really know where
Your stones came from? ...possibly rmt..pfft... Ask anyone who has pretty much dominated the claims in the last 6 months. and YES ... providing
gil to rmt knowingly or unknowingly screws the Quetz zommunity.
"Ulli pops at least twice a day genius."
-Um.. duhhh.... state the obvious
"Are you in our LS?"
-HELL NO
"so fuck off and stop bitching about shit you know nothing about you jealous prick"
-...and your still wondering why ppl think your elitest
[those were your owns words, not mine, not the communities, YOURS]
As for the the jealousy, pffft . I think i have pretty much stated i have
no respect for the ppl that i have spoke with in your ls. Except for 1
member. Jealous... lol ... hell no. I play this game for fun, i don't feel like
i have to be some kind of GOD in a world that does not exist. Its a friggin
game ....
Before anyone flames me for it.... i know...i fail @ quoting...lol
neophytal said:or we just state the obvious.
speaking of going out of the way, its funny you say that coming from someone who goes out of their way to avoid talking about it because it makes you look guilty guilty guilty!
Apu said:Rofl, ok i'll take this in pieces: (All personal Opinion)
"How the hell are we elitist?"
-Um lets just say the attitude of every member of that ls that i have
spoke to has had the "We Are Gods" complex. Minus 1 member named
Meastoso with which i had a civilized conversation.
"You think we don't help people?"
-Never said you didn't, I said do more of it
"Autumnstones we have bought in a year, half coming from JP and half possibly coming from RMT, really screws the community?"
-As this whole flame has made pretty obvious. Do you really know where
Your stones came from? ...possibly rmt..pfft... Ask anyone who has pretty much dominated the claims in the last 6 months. and YES ... providing
gil to rmt knowingly or unknowingly screws the Quetz zommunity.
"Ulli pops at least twice a day genius."
-Um.. duhhh.... state the obvious
"Are you in our LS?"
-HELL NO
"so fuck off and stop bitching about shit you know nothing about you jealous prick"
-...and your still wondering why ppl think your elitest
[those were your owns words, not mine, not the communities, YOURS]
As for the the jealousy, pffft . I think i have pretty much stated i have
no respect for the ppl that i have spoke with in your ls. Except for 1
member. Jealous... lol ... hell no. I play this game for fun, i don't feel like
i have to be some kind of GOD in a world that does not exist. Its a friggin
game ....
Before anyone flames me for it.... i know...i fail @ quoting...lol
Artem said:There are three (3) reasons people made this into 62 page post.
1. Jealousy. People can't stand seeing others succeed, so they must flame them to make themselves fill better (I'd say 90% or so percent of you here). Or you hold a grudge because your ls fucked up and Kaizen cleaned up after you and got gaiters, mbody or w/e else you happened to lose out on.
2. Frustration. You are tired of sky and not getting the things you want, so you are frustrated to see other LS advance by other legitimate ways (buying items with gil is quite legitimate).
3. Enjoyment. People, like myself, Firestreak, and Uzor as well as others, enjoy to read a good flame war for personal enjoyment during that time. Does this time really affect us (the people who read for enjoyment). Not in the least bit.
People like that (#3) who are not in Kaizen, don't really care where Kaizen gets their stones. People in Kaizen like that, don't really care much for the "higher moral" standard you guys are criticising us for. Your opinion is yours. We don't care for it, just as much as you don't care for ours. Telling us repetivily that you are better than us, does not make us feel bad. Mostly it just makes us laugh. Telling us that you don't respect us anymore, makes us laugh. You are not the pope, you are nobody in this game. We don't care weather you respect us or not over something so trivial. People know what should we be respected on, and what we shouldn't be respected on. Opinions are your own, do with them as you wish. Continue with your anger.
Everyone has an opinion, just like an asshole.
I would also bet that if you were next for haidate for 6 month and you couldn't get it cause you don't have time for Ulli, you'd buy a stone.
Trelution said:Yeah I'd say there is nothing left of that dead horse to beat at this point.
meastoso said:pretty sure I remember a guy by the name of Apu running his mouth in Caederva Mire at some Kaizen members about the issue at hand about a few weeks ago. We had a nice chat in tells where I explained pretty much the same thing almaut already did, and it ended with you being quite apologetic and saying something along the lines of:
"i harbor no ill will toward kaizen", and I vividly remember many smiley faces.
indecisive much?
nope not thread it was a thread before that thread.Bajaratt said:Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about(but then, I'm not surprised). There was never a NH thread whining about how we want a chance at Tiamat too. In the thread that existed outside of your retarded mind, NH called for help and then purposely wiped, Kaizen claimed after CFH wore off, before NH coudl reclaim. That thread was made by Sirelrohir, it was a stupid flame and never should have been made; it was made against the wishes of the leadership of NH. If you actually remember(Which I know you don't, but for others with a brain) I was posting on the first page saying just that along with it should be locked; but cubswoo thought it was too entertaining to lock so it stayed open.
It also has no bearing on what's being discussed right now. There was no cheating, no RMT, no buying of anything; they just claimed faster than us and there was nothing wrong done.
The fact that we sold the stone before it became such a rare comoditiy actually supports my point more than you've bothered to realize. The fact that when Ulli was common and easier to obtain that people bothered to buy/sell even if they were in an active sky linkshell; just shows that people have been doing this for years. It's less common now, sure, but it still happens.
Dragon Ryder said:you don't care about being a "god" yet you call them out for just trying to enjoy the game? that's how the majority of the people play the game, they strive to obtain the best of the best. you dislike how they buy stones from anyone and saying they're not worth it if they havent earned it. I'm not saying you can't dislike them, but disliking them for something so rediculous?
maybe to them, enjoying the game, buying a stone, so they don't have to waste 4-12+BORING hrs on ulli so they can kill byakko, is fun for them.
so they're doing what you're doing, and that's having fun
as you've said "it's a friggin game" then get off their nuts
seriously do you even read what you type up? If you claim it's a game then why let personal opinion/feelings come over a "friggin game"?
"oh look at me mother I've lost respect on someone in a friggin game" Ironic the things people say
If there a boycott on stones would you not think there be a boycott on seals? Also I disagree they would spend more time then they would want to. They would need more manpower and they would have to kill despot as well. Then If they killed kirin they would have to kill 8 nm, 4gods and 1 kirin-with 4 gods. they need 3x (maybe 5x) the amount of people, which would make them need people from other camps making them loss there stronghold on other camps. Also if this was true then why dont they kill genbu as much? Genbu easy to farm and drop vclaw. Then there suzuku which drop vclaw and shining cloth. If you remember they even tried to do that before they got banned for the first time.Bajaratt said:Byakko's Seal would be worth several million too, and that IS a 100% drop. Anything else that drops would be extra money made. Plus, any gear they get would replace their current gear, which they could sell and make up for the cost of the stone.
You apparently didn't read the part earlier or ever heard about how gil sellers on other servers actually kill gods with their seals and keep/sell the drops to players. Those are the gil sellers that on top of monopolizing sky are taking down kings on those servers with the gear they got from sky.
If no one bought the stones, the RMT would still bot Ulli, they'd just be killing byakko and keeping/selling the drops. Selling the stone is the easiest way to make money, but actually using the stone would overall be more profitable for them.
Newsflash from 6 months ago: THEY ALREADY FARM ALL OF THE OTHER POP NM'S. You're acting like the only thing gil sellers do in sky is camp Ulli, which shows that you haven't set foot in sky since they started up there. They camp everything and already kill most of the gods, but they sell the autumn stones. They've already killed byakko, hence the seals they have, so it's not that hard. There would be no extra work, no extra effort on their part, they're doing it already; they just sell some/all of their autumn stones.hellstorm said:If there a boycott on stones would you not think there be a boycott on seals? Also I disagree they would spend more time then they would want to. They would need more manpower and they would have to kill despot as well. Then If they killed kirin they would have to kill 8 nm, 4gods and 1 kirin-with 4 gods. they need 3x (maybe 5x) the amount of people, which would make them need people from other camps making them loss there stronghold on other camps. Also if this was true then why dont they kill genbu as much? Genbu easy to farm and drop vclaw. Then there suzuku which drop vclaw and shining cloth. If you remember they even tried to do that before they got banned for the first time.