Stop buying Ulli stones, you *#%*tards

Uzor said:
I do think its quite unfair to state the chance of buying a RMT stone is 98% :p
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i don't
 
hellstorm said:
you talking about a 98% chance of buying uli stone to a 14% chance on o kotes that a big big big difference.
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1-3 stones that they have bought over the WHOLE YEAR could have been from rmt, lets say they were.
Now tell me all the math genius over the corse of a whole year how many RMT kotes that WE PLAYERS have bought and SUPPORTED RMT with a chance of buying from them @ 14%?
 
Firestreak said:
C) When I say that I have evidence, I have evidence. Was Arcien, not Jolin though and I've already posted it.

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Which it isn't my point that he's obviously guilty. Certainly seems that way to me, but my point is that the same group of people who declare that because of an MSN conversation with a person nicknamed Chrono we can conclude that Chronicles is a botter - will turn around and say those screenshots somehow don't prove anything.
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Topic has already been discussed. Since I don't want to defend Kaizen on the subject matter again, anyone can read the previous flame here http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=24269
 
Zethren said:
1-3 stones that they have bought over the WHOLE YEAR could have been from rmt, lets say they were.
Now tell me all the math genius over the corse of a whole year how many RMT kotes that WE PLAYERS have bought and SUPPORTED RMT with a chance of buying from them @ 14%?
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Your question don't have an answer since you'd need how many kotes are sold over a year. But I'd venture a guess and say its 14%.

That's not hard mathematics though, so I do think you could figure that out yourself.

If you REALLY need me to come up with some numbers for it, then I'd guess 3 on average sell per day for a total of 1095 sold every year, bringing it to a total of 153,3 kotes sold per year. This is rather basic mathematics though and doesn't take a genius. Since I assume this is the direction you're going, although I have no idea when, I'll add how much gil they make out of this. O. kote seem to go for about 1,5 mil each, so 1,500,000 * 153,3 is 229,950,000 gil made per year.

And yes, that is more then Autumnstone, but you have to remember that there's more o. kotes sold then autumnstones per year, too.
 
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I'm still waiting for someone to zone out to Batallia Downs and use their Blues Clues notepad to track down all of the RMT bazaars out there and tell us. The only reason no one can do it is because it's IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL AN RMT BAZAAR FROM A NON-RMT BAZAAR. You know why they won't talk to you? Because they're fucking AFK that's why. People don't sit there and stare at their bazaars waiting for a sale. The argument that every Autumnstone in Batallia is (insert made-up percentage) chance of being RMT controlled just shows how insanely ignorant this community is. Believe what you want to believe, but quit making up imaginary figures unless you want to actually go out there and research it yourself.
 
It's the tarus. They are RMT. Write that in your notebook.

This thread is what makes this game suck.
 
Rappa said:
I'm still waiting for someone to zone out to Batallia Downs and use their Blues Clues notepad to track down all of the RMT bazaars out there and tell us. The only reason no one can do it is because it's IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL AN RMT BAZAAR FROM A NON-RMT BAZAAR. You know why they won't talk to you? Because they're fucking AFK that's why. People don't sit there and stare at their bazaars waiting for a sale. The argument that every Autumnstone in Batallia is (insert made-up percentage) chance of being RMT controlled just shows how insanely ignorant this community is. Believe what you want to believe, but quit making up imaginary figures unless you want to actually go out there and research it yourself.
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if they was to check BD regularly I bet they can. Think about it that how we know who the seller are am I right? We watch there movement and notice irregularities
 
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Zethren said:
1-3 stones that they have bought over the WHOLE YEAR could have been from rmt, lets say they were.
Now tell me all the math genius over the corse of a whole year how many RMT kotes that WE PLAYERS have bought and SUPPORTED RMT with a chance of buying from them @ 14%?
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if they = kaizen you lost already. general terms not linkshell. It be hard to do yearly because people keep reselling and the odds change depending on amount people lvling and selling. Again why okote bad choice to place your argument on. Now if you was to say a item like angel skin or b hide or divine log you would have a better argument. Even then though there several places get those items only 1 to get ulli stone. To be honest there is no way compare ulli stone with any other drop except maybe another stone.
 
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pauk said:
So are you saying it's ok to gain items with RMT? How was that RMT'd
Mattimer account in limbus last night with your linkshell?
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Where did u get that i even insinuated that its ok to buy from rmt? My whole point is that RMT hack to get those stones, and people that say they are against hackers are buying the stones.

Again, limbus isnt an anteres ls event. Its people from different ls'. My linkshell itself consists of a handful of people, some of which have other endgame ls. And yes, mattimer went with us last night. It was his first outting with us in limbus.
 
pauk said:
So are you saying it's ok to gain items with RMT? How was that RMT'd
Mattimer account in limbus last night with your linkshell?
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HAHA damn pauk :D

Firestreak said:
I know its been discussed. Just posting as a response to Courtney calling me a liar that the screenshots exist.
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i love these screenshots. why? they prove nothing. its one JDA member who says that arcien did it. wow. what proof. lol anyways as almaut said, that has been discussed already.


Uzor said:
well, perhaps I should have said had. Most screenshot evidence have been lost when my hard drive got fried. But I still remember most of them well. Doesn't change the fact that Firestreak might have some still. I still remember them, though.
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yeah, of course. "i had proof but its gonE". lol. classic lines. might as well say "dog ate my homework".

sirelrohir said:
Where did u get that i even insinuated that its ok to buy from rmt? My whole point is that RMT hack to get those stones, and people that say they are against hackers are buying the stones.

Again, limbus isnt an anteres ls event. Its people from different ls'. My linkshell itself consists of a handful of people, some of which have other endgame ls. And yes, mattimer went with us last night. It was his first outting with us in limbus.
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oh, so mr "omg im so against RMT" now sees its ok to associate with RMT accounts. hmmmmm. and saying that it isnt a "full antares" account is a copout, you still participate with it.
 
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neophytal said:
"dog ate my homework".
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My dog has before and i video recorded it on my mobile phone and got off scot free as i had a video of it. (of course was a bit of blank paper i gave my dog to chew on)
 
neophytal said:
i love these screenshots. why? they prove nothing. its one JDA member who says that arcien did it. wow. what proof. lol anyways as almaut said, that has been discussed already.
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*cough* And the GM. Who else has access to Halflife anyway, out of curiosity?
 
hellstorm said:
i don't
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You're also retarded, so we have to factor in where the information is coming from. Given that it's you, we can basically disregard just about anything you say since you just repeat the same bullshit over and over without any actual evidence or any semblance of a point.

Difference is that consumable are made by everyone and there is no bots or wrong doing use to create them. Yes they have store bots, but you cant claim them you pretty slow. Also you can farm them. There also big difference between 11-15k and 6-8 mil gil. Also the point consumable are a necessary while uli stone is not, your entire point is moronic at best. If they are responsible for prices of oils/prisms then I most thank them there at the lowest they been since beginning of the game.

edit even if i lvled my mnk and sam I would either farm kote myself or barrow from a friend.
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So where is the money line that it's ok to buy from RMT, 1 mil, 2? That's what you're saying here, that it's ok to buy consumables since those are cheap, but it's not ok to buy anything big because it's more money; which has to be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard, and I've been listening to you for a while. You're supporting the RMT either way, the scale of your support is irrelevant, you're still supporting them.

You try to weasel out of your supporting RMT through your cheap purchases by saying that everyone sells the items you want; well everyone sells EVERY item, including Autumn stones as has been explained many times before. The fact that you don't even understand your hipocracy is amazing, you don't mind helping out RMT for shit you want, but if someone else gets something from RMT, only they suck? Great double standard there, genius.

Hell, you even want to thank the RMT for fucking up prices for legitimate players to make money off of; so you really have no room to complain about anyone using the RMT for their own benefit.

I'm going back to class, can someone ban this retard already?
 
Bajaratt said:
So where is the money line that it's ok to buy from RMT, 1 mil, 2? That's what you're saying here, that it's ok to buy consumables since those are cheap, but it's not ok to buy anything big because it's more money; which has to be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard, and I've been listening to you for a while. You're supporting the RMT either way, the scale of your support is irrelevant, you're still supporting them.
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Also buy an O kote for 2mill, buy some food for 32k. What in the end will you spend more gill on? The food as you need to keep buying more, and if you lv with out it most people will laugh at you are kick you out.

So the amount of gill is irrelevant.
 
neophytal said:
HAHA damn pauk :D



i love these screenshots. why? they prove nothing. its one JDA member who says that arcien did it. wow. what proof. lol anyways as almaut said, that has been discussed already.




yeah, of course. "i had proof but its gonE". lol. classic lines. might as well say "dog ate my homework".



oh, so mr "omg im so against RMT" now sees its ok to associate with RMT accounts. hmmmmm. and saying that it isnt a "full antares" account is a copout, you still participate with it.
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um, u know the person playing that account isnt rmt, right? I wont say who it is, b/c its not my business to tell anyone, but its definatly not rmt. (I know this is subject to attack. My stance is if the person themselves wants peopleto know, they will let people know.) I also didnt say that he wasnt a full antares account. He is in anteres. What i said, b/c people do not catch on the first 100 times, is that the limbus group doesnt have all anteres members. The member list changes. So yes, I do limbus w/ some anteres members. But no, i am not in anteres or their dynamis shell. Do you understand? (please answer this question so i know i dont have to address this again, for the 101 time).

The point im making in this thread is that their are rmt at uli all the time. They use bots and hacks to kill this mob. Even some of the people that are defending kaizens actions have said that the majority of stones sold are from rmt. I'm sure you even you know this is true. If this had been any ls other then yours, you would be all over them.

Your most judgemental members get on here, and take a high and mighty attitude against anyone they dont agree with. Members such as yourself, crosis and courtney get on here, call people out for cheating, judge people, attemp to discredit people, and all sorts of dispicable actions. Now that your ls has done something along the same lines that you have judged others on, you bring out every defence you possibly can. Your primary defence tho has been playing dumb. And like i said before, for all your faults, you guys arent dumb. The reason you buy stones, whether legit or not is because you know what a clusterfuck the uli room is. Its a clusterfuck mainly due to the rmt bots.

You want to talk about chances and %, then do so. It doesnt make a difference to people at this point. After 80+ pages, i dont think anyone is going to change their minds.
 
I didn't want to have to use this, but I see no other way now...
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Seriously, as I said in my first post (Like 36892853 posts ago) nothing short of a atomic blast will change someone's mind on here. I'm all for discussion, flame, etc, but for flooks sake bring up new topics or just let it die. The last half of this thread has been nothing but the same shit rehashed a thousand times.

Everyone has said their piece (about 3 times actually) No one Is forcing you to believe one side over the other. Some agree and some disagree as with everything in life. I believe at this point Dowser said it best with... Rabble... RABBLE! RABBLE!

So I say its time to put ole Yeller down.
 
Trelution said:
So I say its time to put ole Yeller down.
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You are going to make me cry.
 
The point is Mattimer was purchased. He used Real Money and Traded it for an acount. Acount or gil does not matter it is still RMT.
 
Tailss said:
The point is Mattimer was purchased. He used Real Money and Traded it for an acount. Acount or gil does not matter it is still RMT.
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Mattimer and the new owner said it was given, not sold, IIRC.
 
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