Stop buying Ulli stones, you *#%*tards

[Dowzer]

Well there are a few legitimate reasons for the Invisible online status feature, but I can only think of one.

If you're levelling a mule and want to stay private, that's somewhat understandable.

Normally you could see where the mule stems from, with that privacy feature it remains hidden.

You have to ask yourself about people who seperate their mules from their main characters' accounts and use privacy features to hide their identity as to if they're the likely the legit players.

Not only invisible status, but the fact that you can create seperate handles to hide the mules.

The problem with the Invisible online status feature, is it harbors more negative activity than positive.

I'd imagine people who buy gil use this method. Also people who flee-hack their mules to Jeuno.

Doesn't ANYONE find it challenging and fun to race your Lv1 Toon to Jeuno without aggro? Hell, THF and PLD don't count.

 

[Khajit]

Well, that's what I was thinking as well (seperation of mules), but, in my opinion, having invisible mode on as a bazaar mule is pretty legitimate, to keep friends from trying in vain to send tells and whatnot, thinking you're online/can get it.
The side effect of this is that their identity apparently becomes hidden as well, which strikes me as practically a blunder on SE's part.

Or you could put AFK on a search comment...

 

[Garvin]

Or you could put AFK on a search comment...

Friend list doesn't show search comments. It's only a minor thing, and that aspect of it has limited uses that are legitimate, but the whole "Can't see the entire account" thing blows it out of the water.

 

[Khajit]

well when you dont respond its not like they cant figure things out.
I use /sea all freind alot incase they might be in the middle of a party/event and I shouldnt be bothering them

 

[Giaganta]

Isn't the Mattimer's account being used by Deathchild? Just a rumor i heard.

 

[Skaw]

Friend list doesn't show search comments. It's only a minor thing, and that aspect of it has limited uses that are legitimate, but the whole "Can't see the entire account" thing blows it out of the water.

Easy way to fix this: Bazaar bag > Away dots > Mentor M > Newb ? > Linkpearl


That way, you don't need invis status, just throw up /away.

 

[hellstorm]

You're also retarded, so we have to factor in where the information is coming from. Given that it's you, we can basically disregard just about anything you say since you just repeat the same bullshit over and over without any actual evidence or any semblance of a point.


So where is the money line that it's ok to buy from RMT, 1 mil, 2? That's what you're saying here, that it's ok to buy consumables since those are cheap, but it's not ok to buy anything big because it's more money; which has to be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard, and I've been listening to you for a while. You're supporting the RMT either way, the scale of your support is irrelevant, you're still supporting them.

You try to weasel out of your supporting RMT through your cheap purchases by saying that everyone sells the items you want; well everyone sells EVERY item, including Autumn stones as has been explained many times before. The fact that you don't even understand your hipocracy is amazing, you don't mind helping out RMT for shit you want, but if someone else gets something from RMT, only they suck? Great double standard there, genius.

Hell, you even want to thank the RMT for fucking up prices for legitimate players to make money off of; so you really have no room to complain about anyone using the RMT for their own benefit.

I'm going back to class, can someone ban this retard already?

lol aww somebody need a hug. I cant help if your head so thick that you cant comprehend. There is no money line, but as I said so many consumables and oils/prism are made it impossible to say who you buying from. You don't have to buy ulli stone, but you have to buy food and meds.

No prices on oils went down because everything else has. People have to do 3x as much work in order to get the same amount of money they did this time last year. You would like to think rmt is the main cause of this, but there not. my hypocrisy that made me laugh.

Though lets just say for the sack of arguing someone did buy all sole sushi that on ah. Lets say that all of them was rmt. you would have to buy 250 stacks just to equal the price of 1 6mil stone or 3.8 o kotes. So you dam right I be more pissed if you give them 6mil.

banned me :biggrin: that your response to someone who does not agree with the bajaratt world. Sad part is you don't even think it wrong. Yet botting, gilbuying is. Your having to justify yourself by trying to compare it to other things show you know it wrong, but you justifications are way off.

 

[hellstorm]

Also buy an O kote for 2mill, buy some food for 32k. What in the end will you spend more gill on? The food as you need to keep buying more, and if you lv with out it most people will laugh at you are kick you out.

So the amount of gill is irrelevant.

You realize in order to do that every single food you buy would have to be made by gil sellers. Im willing to bet there are more cooks then any other craft. You would have to buy 64 stacks of sole sushi for 1 o kote big difference there kid

 

[Uzor]

I really wouldn't say it's enitrely moot. They're resold because of RMT in the first place. Regardless if they get profit off it or not, the very existance of the item could be from shady practices. Wether originally obtained through cheating, or a decent probability of giving a gilbuyer his gil back.

Thus lessen the potential need for a gilbuyer to buy more gil, thus lowering gilseller's income.

How is that a bad thing?

 

[Courtney]

Manipulation of words.

A) I admitted a weak argument because you can just a deny it and it's simply he she/she said.

B) There's a difference between lying and not being able to prove/being wrong. Hence I've never publically called anyone a flee hacker or a gil buyer and privately only very rarely. If I'm talking privately it's my opinion only which doesn't have proof. To which I was talking to Neophytal who was saying in the same private conversation that HNM Party bots, which I don't seem to recall him every giving proof towards.

C) When I say that I have evidence, I have evidence. Was Arcien, not Jolin though and I've already posted it.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/Rednibia2/fafnirbs1.jpg
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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/Rednibia2/fafnirbs3.jpg
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Which it isn't my point that he's obviously guilty. Certainly seems that way to me, but my point is that the same group of people who declare that because of an MSN conversation with a person nicknamed Chrono we can conclude that Chronicles is a botter - will turn around and say those screenshots somehow don't prove anything.

And it isn't my point that I'm pissed off that in the process I got MPKed as well, cause I'm over that. The point is only that it's something declared 'wrong.'

Sorry if you as well misinterprete posting these as another attack. Rather, it's you calling me a liar and me showing that I'm not.

Well of 3 paladins, Almaut, Jamal and Masahiro, during early wyrm fights, Almaut would take adds and hyperspeed them around. Jamal has used some 3rd party programs, Masahiro is clean far as I know.

Sounds pretty public to me.

As for Halflife she was controlled by Jolin. MPKing JDA is fine as far as I'm concerned. Me and Raduhadu were killed in the crossfire however and a couple Kaizen WHM walked over my corpse as I ended up having to take a r1.

I do have a screenshot as evidence that not only was Jolin guilty but someone tried to pin it as far as the GM on us, which he didn't buy. The screen was on our last messageboard which is gone now but I can probably get it off Prophecy if he saved it.

And those are the same screenshots you showed the first time around. They show Fygla saying that Arc = Halflife. They show Prophecy saying that Arc = Halflife. Neither are GMs.

But of course, having no moral objections to anything makes it fine to just continue to lie, I guess. It must be a lot easier...

 

[delsus]

You realize in order to do that every single food you buy would have to be made by gil sellers. Im willing to bet there are more cooks then any other craft. You would have to buy 64 stacks of sole sushi for 1 o kote big difference there kid

64 stacks of food but how many people buy them in a hour? Probally around 30-40. They sell dam fast there is more money in some foods then items they spend 3 hours waiting for pops.

 

[Firestreak]

Sounds pretty public to me.

Do you know what public means, as in the opposite of private?

As in you're quoting a private message?

And those are the same screenshots you showed the first time around. They show Fygla saying that Arc = Halflife. They show Prophecy saying that Arc = Halflife. Neither are GMs.

But of course, having no moral objections to anything makes it fine to just continue to lie, I guess. It must be a lot easier...

Ok so the top of that isn't the GM saying "Yeah I know all of Halflife's characters." confirming what I said.

I think you've got the lying part covered for the both of us.

 

[neophytal]

Ok so the top of that isn't the GM saying "Yeah I know all of Halflife's characters." confirming what I said.

I think you've got the lying part covered for the both of us.

uh.. it doesnt confirm it by any means. it says that he "knows all of his characters". no where does it say "you're right" or "yes i see what you mean about it" or anything of the sort that links the GM in agreement to any comment made.

but yay for derail topic some more^-^

 

[Courtney]

Do you know what public means, as in the opposite of private?

As in you're quoting a private message?

Ok so the top of that isn't the GM saying "Yeah I know all of Halflife's characters." confirming what I said.

I think you've got the lying part covered for the both of us.

Arcien had access to Halflife's character, as did about 4-5 other people. As the GM says, he know's ALL of Halflife's characters. None of this was secret, and was known before the incident.

All was covered before though, as you well know. Whenever you get cornered enough that you can't lie your way out, you just fling mud until people forget what the real issue was. I must try this not having any morals thing sometime. It seems really.... convenient....

 

[Uzor]

Arcien had access to Halflife's character, as did about 4-5 other people. As the GM says, he know's ALL of Halflife's characters. None of this was secret, and was known before the incident.

All was covered before though, as you well know. Whenever you get cornered enough that you can't lie your way out, you just fling mud until people forget what the real issue was. I must try this not having any morals thing sometime. It seems really.... convenient....

4-5 people in Kaizen? That would still prove Kaizen did it.

 

[Rappa]

4-5 people in Kaizen? That would still prove Kaizen did it.

Old topic is ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold.

 

[Uzor]

Old topic is ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold.

I didn't bring it up. But while its up, why not jump in?

Might aswell before the topic gets locked or derailed once again.

 

[kisada]

4-5 people in Kaizen? That would still prove Kaizen did it.

are you dumb or can you just not fucking read because you're blind?

maybe i'm just wrong and you're just retarded.

actually i'm not even gonna bother explaining your obvious flaw in logic, wouldn't pass through your god damned head anyway.

 

[Uzor]

are you dumb or can you just not fucking read because you're blind?

maybe i'm just wrong and you're just retarded.

actually i'm not even gonna bother explaining your obvious flaw in logic, wouldn't pass through your god damned head anyway.

He said 4-5 people have access to Halflife's account. I asked if 4-5 people in Kaizen had access to it.

Obviously I was right since you felt the need to resort to insults. I seem to have pushed a nerve.

 

[Firestreak]

Arcien had access to Halflife's character, as did about 4-5 other people. As the GM says, he know's ALL of Halflife's characters. None of this was secret, and was known before the incident.

All was covered before though, as you well know. Whenever you get cornered enough that you can't lie your way out, you just fling mud until people forget what the real issue was. I must try this not having any morals thing sometime. It seems really.... convenient....

Like Neophytal said... this is an old topic. People can draw their own conclusions over Prophecy stating it was Arcien to the GM and then the GM saying, "Yes, I know."

The point I'm making is that you said I was lying about the screenshots, not that the screenshots weren't concrete enough. Plus you said I was lying about the public comments when they were private messages. Who's the one trying to fling mud, really?

I'm simply defending myself from the factually incorrect things you're stating, not trying to revive this argument again.