Suggested PLD gear 70-75?

[Zerayla]

Hoping to get some advice on lvling my PLD to 75, and also just to get a bit of discussion going. So far, i've always focused on tanking gear and food, however since lvl 68, I've been fighting the same mobs and unless i'm mistaken, i'll be fighting the same mobs until 75.

I've been thinking that if the mob lvl isn't going to increase, then the difficulty won't either. This would mean that if anything, i'll be taking less and less dmg as my own lvl increases, so it might not even be necessary for me to continue stocking up on tanking food/gear. I was thinking that instead I should be focusing on my enmity to continue keeping hate, and to try out some melee food/gear to increase my DoT so that the kills go faster resulting in faster xp/hour.

From what i've heard, PLD's seeking merit parties often wear ATK gear to become a DD. I'm not planning on doing merits with my PLD at this point,(likely i'll be taking another job asked into merit parties more often to take to 75) but if it would be more helpful for me to start obtaining DD gear for regular xp parties, then i'd like to try to accomadate the party.

So any helpful advice would be appreciated, and any recommendations on melee gear is also appreciated though i'm no where near rich so the most obvious fancies like a hauby etc are something out of my reach for the moment.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Eulore]

Do you have a joyeuse? Otherwise DD gear doesn't work too well.

Something like this might work well:

Main: Joyeuse
Sub: Koenig shield (Always use this, the damage negation and TP gain is more important than the STR on tatami)
Head: Walahra Turban or Optical Hat
Neck: R.G. Collar
Earrings: Coral Earrings/Suppanomimi
Body: Assault Jerkin or Narasihma's Vest if you can't get a Byrnie/Hauby
Hands: I usually used valor, but tarrasque mitts would be best
Rings: STR rings I guess
Back: Amemet Mantle
Waist: Warwolf, Lifebelt, or Swift Belt
Legs: R.G. Breeches
Feet: AF(Shield block = TP) or Crimson

That being said, defense gear is usually the way to go. pld isn't a very good DD because you have to sacrifice damage negation to deal decent damage.

 

[Zerayla]

I don't have Joyeuse, but hopefully one day I might lol.

And thanks for the recommendations. My only question is that is tanking gear really called for in xp parties the closer you get to 75? If i'm fighting the same lvl of mob, I thought that maybe the dmg i'd take would be decreased so it would be safe to substitute some gear for DD gear. So far the MP pool is always beyond 350 for the WHM and there is no downtime. But i'm not sure if there are tougher mobs to xp on, i've only been fighting Jnuns and Imps so far and if anything I find them easier the more I lvl.

 

[Beka]

Honestly, its best to have both ready. It's expensive, but it helps.

I had a party in Bibiki Bay, where we had WHM, BRD, 3x WAR, and me as PLD at around lvl 69-70, fighting Catoblepas. Without full refresh, it was easier for me to switch to DD and backup healer, and let the wars share tanking. I had my war gear on me, so it was np.

There are some things in the new area you'd want DEF gear for. In Mamool Ja, the Sea Puks are like Imps, easy to kill and dont hit too hard, but the Mamool Ja themselves are much harder and best to tank defensively. Just an example.

DD setup I use is :

Sword: Company Sword (Durandal for Def setup)
Shield: Diamond Shield
Ammo: Bibiki Seashell
Head: Optical Hat (Gallant Coronet for Def setup)
Neck: Merman's Gorget (Shield Torque for Def setup)
Ear1: Spike Earring (Titianis for Def)
Ear2: Spike Earring (Mercenaries for Def)
Body: Haubergeon (Gallant for Def)
Hands: Custom F Gloves (Gallant for Def)
Ring1: Woodsman Ring (Hercules for Def)
Ring2: Puissance Ring (Chrysobell for Def - Jelly when I get it ><)
Back: Amemet Mantle (Knights Mantle for Def)
Waist: Life Belt (Warwolf for Def)
Legs: Royal Knights Breeches (Gallant for Def)
Feet: Gallant

Hope this helps or at least gives you ideas.

 

[Zerayla]

Ooo, really appreciate you posting all that info Beka. I have one question though, you said you use a Titianis Earring? I couldn't find this anywhere online, is it listed under a different name? Is this a crafted item or quested? what are the stats? Currently I use hospitaler's earring to help with my cures which helps with my hate, as well as mercenary earring.

 

[K. Ishitar]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=8929 seems there are better though

like merman's earring?

 

[Beka]

Actually I plan to get a Buckler Earring for the Shield skill there, the Titanis is more of a place holder for that one ^^.

 

[Valandil]

I never did the DD PLD setup so my gear was:

Durandal until Joyeuse
Adaman Set but with Shield Mastery I would definitely keep the Gallant Leggings for TP gain
Knightly Mantle / Resentment Cape
Warwolf Belt
Rosenbogen/Bibiki Seashell
General's/Admiral's Shield until Koenig @ 73
Pigeon Earrings/Buckler Earring/Mercenary's Earring
Jelly Ring/Merman's Ring/Topaz Ring/Hercules Ring
IM Gorget/Shield Gorget

That's just the basic stuff and it's fairly inexpensive compared to other jobs/setups. However, it's still effective and will work for you until you can get some of the pricier items like Gigant Mantle/Haubgereon/etc.

 

[Khajit]

IF you wanna keep wearing tanking food maybe you could start eating bream sushi? It give the same acc bonus as other sushi and VIT + 5.

 

[Zerayla]

So is it more recommended to just keep the "tanking" gear and food up to 75? I'm just going based on what i've heard, and I know that at 75 a lot of PLD's in merit parties end up substituting most of their def/vit gear for atk/acc gear to increase their DoT.

I'm not planning on doing merits with my PLD though, as eventually i'll be taking a different job that is invited to merit parties more often. So if the DD gear is only called upon for merit parties, then I'll just stick with my current tanking gear/food (Durandil, Shield Torque, Warwolf belt, Gallant set (to be replaced by adaman at 73 with exception of feet) general's shield, rosenbogen (thanks to Anekei! and damn SE for not letting the bibikibay shell being re-quested -_-) Jelly ring, Hercules ring, hospitaler's earring, and mercenary earring)

If it is more helpful for a PLD tank to substitute some gear while lvling to 75, then i'd like to look into the possible gear I can get, and the best for the $. The only reason why I was thinking of giving up some of my tanking gear is because if i'm only getting stronger as I lvl, and the mobs aren't then I don't see why i'd need to keep up the def/vit because as it was in my last party, our whm always had more than half mp (except for links) and there was no down time at all. The only thing i'd need to really focus on is enmity, and pretty sure that I can hold my hate well

 

[Beka]

Well, there is no clear cut answer there as it depends where and what you fight. If you plan to keep fighting Jnuns, Imps and Puks, then yes, get DD gear, if you plan to fight IT mobs like Statues in Sky or Mamool Ja, then you'll need your Defensive gear. Sorry it's not one clear cut "use this" answer, but like most things in the game, it's situational.

 

[Zerayla]

Well, there is no clear cut answer there as it depends where and what you fight. If you plan to keep fighting Jnuns, Imps and Puks, then yes, get DD gear, if you plan to fight IT mobs like Statues in Sky or Mamool Ja, then you'll need your Defensive gear. Sorry it's not one clear cut "use this" answer, but like most things in the game, it's situational.

This pretty much answered the question I was looking for, and now that I realize it was answered a little earlier too. Just depends on the mobs and my theory that if i'm fighting Jnun and Imps, that DD gear would be good seems to make sense.

 

[Valandil]

If you're fighting trolls I suggest tanking gear. They're not too bad for a defensive PLD party but they still hit pretty hard. I did 73-75 in about a week of exping on trolls with my lsmates. I suggest Shield Torque, Knight's Earring (if you can get DM done), Buckler Earring, and Gallant Leggings. With that stuff my shield skill is 301 @ 75 without any merits and if you can get your hands on a Joyeuse to go with Shield Mastery we become pretty good at building TP.

 

[Zerayla]

If you're fighting trolls I suggest tanking gear. They're not too bad for a defensive PLD party but they still hit pretty hard. I did 73-75 in about a week of exping on trolls with my lsmates. I suggest Shield Torque, Knight's Earring (if you can get DM done), Buckler Earring, and Gallant Leggings. With that stuff my shield skill is 301 @ 75 without any merits and if you can get your hands on a Joyeuse to go with Shield Mastery we become pretty good at building TP.

Thanks for the advice, ended up buying a shield torque and noticed the difference. Can't believe I never had one of those until lvl 71 -_-;;

 

[naue]

just stick with defensive...youre so close to 75, why make drastic changes now. If you wanted to DD pld wasnt the best choice, but it seems like you are pretty content on doing a different job for meritting and dding..so stick with what youre used to. But..if youre doing weak mobs like imps and jnuns, maybe grab a byrnie a joyeuse etc and go for alittle more damage. Anything will help im sure. I dont know what your gil situation is..so I wont suggest any high priced items, but as said above, situationally you can be a DD and defensive paladin. More importantly, do what you enjoy most...because dd pld will never be uber, and defensive pld will never be the best for roaming merit fast chain pts.

pld is not a fantastic job for xp, but youve finished the brute of it, so get 75 and start either having fun or leveling a good melee burn job. I'd suggest taking nin or brd to 75 next as its your second job so youll be more concerned in the speed of your xp. With nin you can tank and DD, and with brd you get insta invites until 75, and your pts always have a brd brd is also great for meritting and will allow you to merit the shit out of your pld with very little effort.

thats all the advice i have...doubt it will help, but there u go

 

[Kireek]

Not too sure if you know what most this Is, But it seamed to work well for HP ont he bigger stuff end game

 

[Blazeoffury]

Not too sure if you know what most this Is, But it seamed to work well for HP ont he bigger stuff end game

WoW sucks.



Nice gear.. miss ya dwag.

 

[Celvantes]

I've never gone the way of DD PLD - it is possible to exp to 75 and merit as a tank.

EXP:
Joyeuse
Koenig Shield
Bibiki Seashell
Adaman Barbuta
Shield Torque
Suppanomimi / Cassie
Adaman Cuirass
Adaman Gauntlets (will replace with Valor)
Vigor / Jelly (Macro in Hercules / Mermaid on all JAs and cures)
Knightly Mantle
Warwolf Belt
Adaman Cuisses (will replace with Valor)
Gallant Leggings

For HP:
Durandal (or Earth Staff)
Koenig Shield
Rosenbogen
Koenig Head
I.M. Gorget
Intruder / Cassie (use pidgeon or stoic when inside nation control)
Gallant Surcoat (will replace with Valor or MBody if I'm lucky enough)
Koenig Hands
Jelly / Bomb Queen Ring (replace with bloodbead if fighting fire mob, macro in Hercules on JAs and Cures)
Gigant Mantle
Marid Belt (I don't think the additional HP on Ocean Sash is worth 5 VIT)
Crimson Cuisses
Marine Boots

It is possible to get more HP, but at the expense of large amounts of VIT. I'm trying to go for a balanced approach with an HP emphasis.

 

[limunious]

My plans for a lev 71 galka pld with the same question in mind...

I am planning on just burning to 75 with the normal gear and not spending alot of money upgrading. I am currently using:

Durandel (might do company sword, but its not needed for my party's)
royal guards shield (just till 73, koenig will be a definite)
af armour (going to use this straight to 75)
knightly mantle (works fine, no problems)
warwolf belt(same thing works fine)
titanus earring( just a normal old earring)
drone earring (might switch to a buckler earring for the +3 shield skill)
2 x chrysoberyl ring (+6 vit, not to bad, not going to worry about jelly till 75)
bibiki bay (simple to get)
shield torque (bought at 71 and i love it)

I know this is very plain jane, but to be honest, im not planning on juicing anything up real big till i get all the stuff i want. The higher level we get, the faster our DD's are destroying the imps/jnon/sea puks, so me chaning up wont do too much im figuring. It might shave an extra 5 seconds off each fight but thats about it. I feel that its silly to reinvest all this money into other armours when this is working just fine!
I try to assemble the party's myself with people i have played with so they know how i like to tank and that im not a party dropper or anything. I have the reputation of being the first to die as i feel this is our responsibility to the team, so i get to have the same 10-15 people i party with all the time. I assembly the party to be me (PLD) 2 of either whm/smn/rdm/brd then i use 1 war, 1 drk, 1 mnk and we just shred them. I dont worry about any macros or anything as i never get the chance to use my skills to much due to amnesia. Just a quick Voke/ then 10 seconds later a flash, and a quick cure 4, then im done for the fight!