Moriki said:
Moriki said:
A) i didn't think that video was honestly that impressive, the only impressive part is their throw combo, which can be done by multiple other characters.
B) it was a completely unfair match. If you wacth the person playing ice climbers is using the wave dash (a bug in the game) whereas the guy he is fighting in every fight (that i ahve seen i only watched 1/4) never used the wave dash once and was below average.
I was honestly expecting you to show me two uber players battling it out and ice climbers winning but it was a pro vs a noob and the result actually confirmed my opinion that ice climbers are unbalanced and would be better if they were one character like the others.
Rinoah said:There are several other characters that have throw combos similar (jigglypuff and peach are two examples i believe.) just look up an "elite" SSBM website/forum and they will happily describe how much they rock in detail with relation to throwing combos.
I still stand by that they were very basic. A) no wave dash which is a "pro" move (which admittedly i don't use as its a pain in the ass and i consider it cheating as it basically breaks the games physics) and B) idk maybe i just rock but i swear that a level 9 CPU is ALOT harder than the people playing the game and that i could pwn them with releative ease.
Also i admit that i am biased because one of my brother strategys on SSBM is to get himself seperated from nana and let her act on her own inflicting damage as i try and ignore her and get to him. Such a weak strategy proves an inbalance in the way they work that should be sorted out if nothing else.
Also on IGN forum i beleieve it was 75% of people wanted to remove Ice Climbers...so its not like i'm alone.
Rinoah said:There are several other characters that have throw combos similar (jigglypuff and peach are two examples i believe.) just look up an "elite" SSBM website/forum and they will happily describe how much they rock in detail with relation to throwing combos.
I still stand by that they were very basic. A) no wave dash which is a "pro" move (which admittedly i don't use as its a pain in the ass and i consider it cheating as it basically breaks the games physics) and B) idk maybe i just rock but i swear that a level 9 CPU is ALOT harder than the people playing the game and that i could pwn them with releative ease.
Also i admit that i am biased because one of my brother strategys on SSBM is to get himself seperated from nana and let her act on her own inflicting damage as i try and ignore her and get to him. Such a weak strategy proves an inbalance in the way they work that should be sorted out if nothing else.
Also on IGN forum i beleieve it was 75% of people wanted to remove Ice Climbers...so its not like i'm alone.
NeogearzX said:
Tagrineth said:People also thought Zappa was absolute bottom tier in Guilty Gear X2 until one person figured out a handful of terrifying combos, including at least one near infinite combo. There are still GGXX players who don't think Zappa is good, but he's easily upper middle tier if not close to top tier. And yes, I'm aware that other characters can do long throw chains, but again, Ice Climber is dangerous because they can end the throw chain with an untechable KO move.
They DO wave dash! Re watch the video, especially the Falco and Fox segments. Fox is considered top tier in most SSBM circles, and the Fox snippet's player uses a lot of advanced movement tricks, including wave dash.
And "Cheating"? Check out www.sirlin.net and then cry some more, please.
No, your brother proves that SSBM's characters are engineered so well that people can come up with a lot of interesting strategies for fighting...
You think IGN is any kind of authority on anything? IGN's boards are almost as bad as GameFAQs... at least the people on GameFAQs have some idea of what they're talking about.
That song should be One Winged Angel....NeogearzX said:
Pasquale said:I was late for work this morning because a friend of mine had sent me the trailer this morning and I watched it three times. The new characters are awesome, but its always gonna be Mario & Pichu ftw.
Other characters I've always wanted to see in Smash Bros:
MegaMan (I would drown in my own giggles)
Dante (devil may cry)
Fighter (final fantasy)
Lara Croft? (I figured I'd throw a chick in there so as to not sound sexist)
Zeke and Julie(?) from Zombies Ate My Neighbors (to replace the lame ice climbers)
NeogearzX said: