Teh 1337 Rdm debate.......
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I'm Taru, I don't have to worry about mp as rdm 
I can do it all, Hasting, refreshing, dispelling, curing, enfeebling, MBing, and then when I'm low on mp, just convert and I can still conserve my MP.
The reason why mobs get easier to kill at higher lvls would probably be because at higher lvls, yes, the players are even more stronger, but instead of fighting ITs a lot in pty, the ptys will chain off Ts and VTs, and those are weaker of course.
I can do it all, Hasting, refreshing, dispelling, curing, enfeebling, MBing, and then when I'm low on mp, just convert and I can still conserve my MP.The reason why mobs get easier to kill at higher lvls would probably be because at higher lvls, yes, the players are even more stronger, but instead of fighting ITs a lot in pty, the ptys will chain off Ts and VTs, and those are weaker of course.
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Kire you say that RDM can't MB good enough to make it worthwile, but I have had RDMs in my parties lately that have been MBing Thunder II for 400+. And that wasn't just once, it was fairly regularly. So before you try to preach to the crowd make sure you know something ahead of time.
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Kire said:
A RDM isn't just a refresh whore, get that out of your head. RDM is like a Swiss Army knife, can do pretty much anything. But some things other knives can do better, but the Swiss Army still is capable of doing it.
Wow... I can't believe I'm going to say this... but Kire is right -shudders and dies a little inside-. a RDM nuking is pretty worthless MP waste. I just nuked til my Elemental Magic was capped just 'cause I wanted all my skills capped. But damage was shit and really isn't worth it.. SURE RDM's do have nukes and can use them but why? We have so much other things to worry about then to toss a Thunder III MB for 50 dmg.
And on a side not... Kire seems to know as much as Khidir -misspelling- since it seems he has /SMN. Thats as good as seeing a RDM/NIN in the party.
And on a side not... Kire seems to know as much as Khidir -misspelling- since it seems he has /SMN. Thats as good as seeing a RDM/NIN in the party.
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You notice i said about dispell cure etc? a 1337 RDM can do all those but not every one as you cant use 400mp in 1 refresh cicyleRemus said:
Calv/Godofdeath said:
the smn thing was only to show even with capped auto refresh whats 4 you can not do every single part of a rdm job heck melleing is part of a rdm job they get swords and sword skill but who sees a good rdm fight past lv 51?
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hold on kire, i'm going to go solo nidhogg or aspid for my dalmatica, and then i'll go farm dynamis xarcabard for my hat. while i'm doing that, can you try to take the time and find your missing chromosome? idiot.
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Kire said:
First off, my rdm is only 60, but I feel I have a way better grip on the job than you. A rdms priorities are like this:
1) Main heal (if necessary)
2) Buff party (refresh, haste etc)
3) MB
4) Enfeebs
5) Use extra buffs (haste on other DDs, phalanx II maybe, i dunno)
6) Nuke away extra MP
7) Rest for MP
Number 6 is for say- your convert is up, and you have nothing to do with all your MP. Maybe you just levelled, maybe you had some time to rest. No point in just doing the usual and then waiting to convert. It'll still have another 10 min recast when you use it.
Neyla said:
Actually sometimes, even while main healing, I manage to find a bit to rest. Sometimes the refresh/haste cycles end and the battle is over, so you have a bit to rest and get MP back. Sometimes I rest mid fight when I know the mob is debuffed and party is buffed.
Any RDM that is meleeing could be better spending their time doing one of those seven things- especially resting.
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Calv/Godofdeath said:
I dunno wtf is wrong with your RDM, maybe being taru and already having constant capped Elemental + gear from BLM helps a lot, or what. All I know is that my MBs are definitely worth casting, and sometimes when Convert is up I can do a fuckton of damage nuking away the rest of my MP before convert.
I can't believe we are even arguing about wether or not RDM should be Magic Bursting...
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Don't forget melee'ing... Although, i've never actually seen this done properly, however I do have another example. A Japanese White Mage, was Pulling, Main curing, Melee'ing, and everything she was supposed to do, of which she done very well actually, but I don't think half of you have the open mind to let this happen in your partys, however, as I said, i've yet to see an RDM do it right.(As in, do there duties, and happily melee there hearts out all at the same time.)
Kire said:
Last I checked, every job has weapon skills of some type. I think we should all DD. Fuck tanking, supporting, or healing. I'm going to boycott doing anything other than meleeing on any job I ever play.
Prothall said:
So in your own little world... since a DRK has Black Magic... they should Magic Burst everytime too? RDM nuking is worthless in a party. It's mainly there for soloing purposes.
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