Teh 1337 Rdm debate.......

[Bigboy]

oh, it does. And I can get more MND with my current gear. Like I said, that sig is outdated

I take it the "oh it does" is refering to the gear not allowing it? I dunno which you were saying exactly.

Here is a pic of cheap MND. This is easily obtainable stuff. No merits, no god drops, no AF2, no uncursed gear. This is MND on the Cheap.




There is better stuff out there that I dont have the resources for, but you should. And should have had more than that at the time of the SS, since it was from a while after you hit 75 and had been in a LS.

 

[Bigboy]

Not at all. Usable MP (in all endgame situations, except for maybe one-off short fights) is really only related to the speed you can regenerate that MP.
Refresh, Refresh effects, Aspir, Clear Mind are unaffected by race. The only racial difference in MP regeneration is in the convert, which also provides about 50-70% of our usable MP...

And we're casting at full potency too... the gear that we use to maximise MP disappears after the curing to full (which requires only a Lightstaff)...

Yeah, that is all incredibly true.

 

[Uzor]

first off, my screenshot is without food. Second, I still have both more HP and MP then you. Second, you have a MND wand. I do not, I use a staff in my pic. If I used a wand I'd have more.

if I'd go with food and wand, I'd have much more then what I have in that pick.

Besides, what exactly is your enfeebling magic at? I assume its nowhere near my 330?

 

[Bigboy]

first off, my screenshot is without food. Second, I still have both more HP and MP then you. Second, you have a MND wand. I do not, I use a staff in my pic. If I used a wand I'd have more.

if I'd go with food and wand, I'd have much more then what I have in that pick.

Besides, what exactly is your enfeebling magic at? I assume its nowhere near my 330?

Only 276 in that setup, But I can swap in tabard, beret, and torque to break 300.

As I said though, you should have far more resources than me. I have no merits yet, I'll say it again. You damn well better be better than me, considering you've had a shitload more time and options to get gear and merits in. If you're cropping pictures to show your best stats, what was your excuse for only having that?

You asked for my proof, show me yours.

 

[Uzor]

Only 276 in that setup, But I can swap in tabard, beret, and torque to break 300.

As I said though, you should have far more resources than me. If you're cropping pictures to show your best stats, what was your excuse for only having that?

You asked for my proof, show me yours.

my excuse for using those stats was my normal HNM set up. You don't normally use a wand for HNM's, do you?

 

[Bigboy]

my excuse for using those stats was my normal HNM set up. You don't normally use a wand for HNM's, do you?

Nope, but if you have 330 Enfeebling Skill you could do it on most of the land HNMs and see next to no resists. There are still things you couldn't do it to, but things like Fafnir wouldn't be an issue. Of course, at an HNM, while you are concerned with spells landing, effect would also be important, so I dont see why you couldn't, depending on the situation. 330 enfeebling makes Fafnir an even match, I think you could use a wand, since there aren't any staves with that Enfeebling skill.

 

[Calv/Godofdeath]

Besides, what exactly is your enfeebling magic at? I assume its nowhere near my 330?

I had that much Enfeebling Magic so your the only one so don't go around acting all high and mighty about it.

 

[Uzor]

I had that much Enfeebling Magic so your the only one so don't go around acting all high and mighty about it.

when did I say I'm the only one? Please quote me where I said that.

What I said was that I highly doubt Bigboy do.

 

[Bigboy]

when did I say I'm the only one? Please quote me where I said that.

What I said was that I highly doubt Bigboy do.

You still haven't shown anything, just a cropped pick thats out of date, and a whole bunch of scinerios that don't apply to my original points. This is supposed to have been a thread about RDM all the way up, not just in end-game. If I'm mistaken, this thread needs to be moved.

 

[Uzor]

You still haven't shown anything, just a cropped pick thats out of date, and a whole bunch of scinerios that don't apply to my original points. This is supposed to have been a thread about RDM all the way up, not just in end-game. If I'm mistaken, this thread needs to be moved.

I have no idea how I'm supposed to prove anythingto you when Im not home.

Besides, if you want to, feel free to check me while I run around town. besides, it is RDM all the way to the top. I've mentioned lots of thins about RDM from 1 to 75. All I said was that my gear in the sig was my end-game gear.

 

[Bigboy]

I have no idea how I'm supposed to prove anythingto you when Im not home.

Besides, if you want to, feel free to check me while I run around town. besides, it is RDM all the way to the top. I've mentioned lots of thins about RDM from 1 to 75. All I said was that my gear in the sig was my end-game gear.

And when I was talking about Elvaan MND I mean from bottom to top, untill Errant Elvaans don't compare, but you took it to the here and now and compared it to your 75 RDM and even then I haven't seen or heard anything all that impressive.

You keep trying to take things I say and relate them to things I wasn't talking about. I do my best to show you how little you say means, and then you misconstrue that as well. It went from convert, to chainspell, to stats because you kept nitpicking and relating things I said to shit that I wasn't talking about.

gg[Dhalmel][Redmage] All you've shown me is you're mediocre for a RDM who's been in Endgame for so long. Courtney actually has the gear to shut me up, but all the half asses excuses for numbers and stats and made up situations are getting tiresome.

 

[Uzor]

And when I was talking about Elvaan MND I mean from bottom to top, untill Errant Elvaans don't compare, but you took it to the here and now and compared it to your 75 RDM and even then I haven't seen or heard anything all that impressive.

You keep trying to take things I say and relate them to things I wasn't talking about. I do my best to show you how little you say means, and then you misconstrue that as well. It went from convert, to chainspell, to stats because you kept nitpicking and relating things I said to shit that I wasn't talking about.

gg[Dhalmel][Redmage] All you've shown me is you're mediocre for a RDM who's been in Endgame for so long. Courtney actually has the gear to shut me up, but all the half asses excuses for numbers and stats and made up situations are getting tiresome.

Yeah... I won't even comment on that. You apparently have never actually seen me in-game ever.

So untill you do, don't even try =/

And reason I keep arguing with you is that you're posting things that really make no sense. It is not good to give a faulty tip to someone, like "just convert when you're out of MP, it won't matter anyway!"

 

[Bigboy]

Yeah... I won't even comment on that. You apparently have never actually seen me in-game ever.

So untill you do, don't even try =/

And reason I keep arguing with you is that you're posting things that really make no sense. It is not good to give a faulty tip to someone, like "just convert when you're out of MP, it won't matter anyway!"

Hey I have seen you ingame and I didn't give that tip! Try again!

 

[Uzor]

Hey I have seen you ingame and I didn't give that tip! Try again!

apparently you haven't as you keep talking about proof?

Anyway, I'm off to bed. g'night

 

[Bigboy]

apparently you haven't as you keep talking about proof?

Anyway, I'm off to bed. g'night

lol weaksause

you can only wear one set of gear at once and I doubt you shift through it while running through town. Try again! =D

Just curious where you were since you werent at home to post proof less than 30 minutes before you said you were going to bed. Sleep over? or just dodging more?

 

[Uzor]

lol weaksause

you can only wear one set of gear at once and I doubt you shift through it while running through town. Try again! =D

Ever heard of equip swaps?

And I don't run around naked in town... think of the ladies.

And its 5:10 AM. I'm tired of arguing with you.

 

[Bigboy]

Ever heard of equip swaps?

And I don't run around naked in town... think of the ladies.

And its 5:10 AM. I'm tired of arguing with you.

lol you must be tired because thats not an excuse! You're not doing equip swaps in town right? And I have seen most of your gear when I have seen you in town, but not all. I've heard of equip swaps, but I'm not spaz enough to use them in towns for no reason. Are you? Cuz thats the only reason I can see you bothering to mention them...

 

[Propagandhi]

I'M BETTER THAN JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

What's with the e-peen contest? I guess if you need to bitch about who's got better mnd and a better convert/mp ratio then enjoy. Seriously though, this thread is just getting stupid.

 

[Windy]

Getting? >.> funny... anyhow gonna say to everyone~ sorry if I seemed over-opinionated I just used to like Rdm enough to become empassiponed by it therefor any words discrediting it were almost an insult.. sorry.

On that note, take any advice from me with a half a grain of salt because I have just now decided I absolutely cannot stand the mundane bot-like PT aspect of Rdm and am adding my rdm gear to the AH.

Good luck to you up and coming, and huge props to you 75's... I simply can't do it anymore. :/

 

[Blabj]

I've been leveling RDM recently, I'm really enjoying it and definately taking it to 75. While I can't profess to being the best RDM on this server, I'd like to think I'm about adequate.

My usual party playing style is like this (This is if we have a WHM curing, I'll post my main healing plan down below also):

Stand Up, Cast Refresh on self.
Caste haste on tank.
Cast Dia and Gravity on mob.
Refresh tank (if it's a PLD tank) or Refresh WHM (If it's a NIN tank)
Haste slow DD (DRG, DRK, WAR with G.axe etc.)
Slow and Paralyze on mob.
Refresh any other MP user (BLU, DRK, BLM)
Haste any other DD if the mob isn't dead yet (Usually on Colibris at the moment they're dead when I get up to this stage, I usually Haste them first next round)
Nuke if the mob isn't dead yet. Try and MB if the SC hasn't gone yet.

Now for if I'm main healing:

Refresh self, Haste Tank
Dia, Gravity, Probably Cure II if it's a PLD.
Refresh other magic users
Haste 1 slow DD if they're really struggling to SC
Blind, Paralyze, Slow, Cure Spells.
Cure.
Cure.
Cure.
Try start resting when the mob is at 10%~ if it's a PLD tank, they can cure themselves

My gear isn't up to any presentable state yet, but I do have two NQ level 54 INT and MND rings, and an Ether and Electrum. Obviously they're switched in for the appropriate nukes and spells. My damage is kinda lacking on nukes but then again I really hate Tier II spells since I don't know where I stand while bursting them, and they usually get resisted (even with 5 ish merits to Elemental).