Teppo

well, Yoshindor. There's still no need to swear and be extremely rude ^^
 
Uzor said:
well, Yoshindor. There's still no need to swear and be extremely rude ^^
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I agree I could have made my point without the swear words. As for being rude, I'm sorry but the repeated nonsense and basic lack of ethics Teppo sports, is simply appalling.
You can't expect people to continuiosly screw on smiles for people, not all of us have the patience of Gahndi when it comes to dealing with retarded poltroons and asshats.
P.S. sorry I swore again :( but I was makeing a point and it fit soo nicely
 
Now to explain why i charge. Take this how you will, but this is why i charge for genkai, Afs and Missions. When i was playing when i was level 50-60 i always heard shouts for "Coffer Keys", the n00b as i was, I didnt understand that meaning. Personally i thought getting af, was a Trial run through Ifrit Cauldron for zm5.

It's based on Team work killing lvl 65-70 mobs for a rarity drop for keys. Same with Genkai and missions. When i finally gotten my hat, I devoted myself to working for people to get their afs. Everyday, my Ls and I, spent hours killing Mobs, and getting keys. allances of 18s and only having 3-4 keys turn up. Soon enuff we did AF3 quests, killing those NM mobs for the final piece, and it was so joyest when one finally got the entire set. Unforuntaly, People from the ls left after getting the set. Trying to Put this behind we continued the cycle but more people kept leaving. Not only that, People quit their jobs to start new ones, and eventually wanted new sets.

This cycled continued for months at a time. People I worked so hard for left to make their own ls, or simply join others or completly starting over because they didnt like the fact of having 30k to exp for a lvl. I found this very annoying how i always got /ts to help, and i didnt want to get bitched out being told "I always help this ls, and never ask anything in return. Please i need this af" I never believed those ppl that told me that, sad to say. That is something i heard through /t to many times by to many people.

i started Taking up Genkai for profit at lvl 67, Only by friends, simply because they were tired of the hassle of putting teams together and getting riped off. Getting 20k for an hour so of work, unforutanly others sent /tells for my assistance, not knowing these people i only help because a "friend" said i would. Only getting 10-20k reward for 1-3 hours worth or work. When i started saying no, people gave me guilt trips "Ive been trying to get this paper for 3 weeks, please help me" or actually rasing the reward. I soon tested this out on Coffer mobs when i reached 75.

People asked for my help for keys a lot, and asked for the ls to help too, I always dreamt to solo coffer mobs for free keys for my ls. Unforntally, the habbit of getting a set of af and starting over was getting to be annoying. I found myself spending an entire day working for free keys, never able to do what i wanted too, because if i didnt do what was asked i would get the occtional /t "Man this ls never helps me, i'm sorry, but i'm going to find one that will" This always angered me, since the feeling of a leash around my neck grew tighter and shorter. I started taking /shouts in Jueno for Coffer keys and Mobs to make money, finally a decent reward with no attacments wether if they quit the game/job. Same with Missions.

Mission 5-2 is a battle with the shadow lord, something that you want to do with a bunch of lvl +60 friends. If one is only wanting simply for the rank, I will charge, because that is suppose to be a fun experince. If one thinks it's unfair to be charged, it should be re think instead of paying, but to do it the old fashion way. I never tell people they need me, but i only ask if they wish my assistance, I wish for a reward. I encourge them to ask others for a cheaper deal, but I can and will get the job done, but sadly to say only for a reward.

/bow thank you
 
Keep in mind, i helped for free for a long time, always getting /ts to help others. Dont get upset if i charge, because your trying to buy urself to the top which is not the best thing to brag bout. Granted you still get what is needed. I dont much like helping strangers that wont help back either, but i will help my friends tho. Try becoming my friend first before getting upset that i want something for doing work for u. (I am hired solo shadow lord, I try to have ppl stay away so they wont die. If i die, everyone seems to die. I dont havta refresh anyone since i'm doing all the work. Bitch at me bout refreshing if i am in an exp, not somthing ur paying me to do ;/)
 
what about when you said u promised to help me get a sam test after i helped you get atleast 2 cuz you kept losing, then when the time came, i asked the linkshell if anyone else would come and pauk said he would go, then your response was "if he's going im not, im lazy" what kind of shit is that. and this was when we were friends.
 
Sorry Uz, gonna cuss here, be forewarned.

Tep, you've done a LOT of shitty things to a LOT of people.

Do I like you? Yes and no.

Do I think you suck? I think you could be better if you listened more.

I've leveled with you 2 jobs now, and given you advice the best I know how. Mebbe when people do give you advice you need to listen a tad better, not do what they said to do, see that it does work, and then go off and do your own thing again.

Bottom line is, I luv Uzor dearly and what you did to him was just very very wrong. Also, what you've done to a lot of other people is very very wrong.
 
ForteTeppo said:
Now to explain why i charge. Take this how you will, but this is why i charge for genkai, Afs and Missions. When i was playing when i was level 50-60 i always heard shouts for "Coffer Keys", the n00b as i was, I didnt understand that meaning. Personally i thought getting af, was a Trial run through Ifrit Cauldron for zm5.

It's based on Team work killing lvl 65-70 mobs for a rarity drop for keys. Same with Genkai and missions. When i finally gotten my hat, I devoted myself to working for people to get their afs. Everyday, my Ls and I, spent hours killing Mobs, and getting keys. allances of 18s and only having 3-4 keys turn up. Soon enuff we did AF3 quests, killing those NM mobs for the final piece, and it was so joyest when one finally got the entire set. Unforuntaly, People from the ls left after getting the set. Trying to Put this behind we continued the cycle but more people kept leaving. Not only that, People quit their jobs to start new ones, and eventually wanted new sets.

This cycled continued for months at a time. People I worked so hard for left to make their own ls, or simply join others or completly starting over because they didnt like the fact of having 30k to exp for a lvl. I found this very annoying how i always got /ts to help, and i didnt want to get bitched out being told "I always help this ls, and never ask anything in return. Please i need this af" I never believed those ppl that told me that, sad to say. That is something i heard through /t to many times by to many people.

i started Taking up Genkai for profit at lvl 67, Only by friends, simply because they were tired of the hassle of putting teams together and getting riped off. Getting 20k for an hour so of work, unforutanly others sent /tells for my assistance, not knowing these people i only help because a "friend" said i would. Only getting 10-20k reward for 1-3 hours worth or work. When i started saying no, people gave me guilt trips "Ive been trying to get this paper for 3 weeks, please help me" or actually rasing the reward. I soon tested this out on Coffer mobs when i reached 75.

People asked for my help for keys a lot, and asked for the ls to help too, I always dreamt to solo coffer mobs for free keys for my ls. Unforntally, the habbit of getting a set of af and starting over was getting to be annoying. I found myself spending an entire day working for free keys, never able to do what i wanted too, because if i didnt do what was asked i would get the occtional /t "Man this ls never helps me, i'm sorry, but i'm going to find one that will" This always angered me, since the feeling of a leash around my neck grew tighter and shorter. I started taking /shouts in Jueno for Coffer keys and Mobs to make money, finally a decent reward with no attacments wether if they quit the game/job. Same with Missions.

Mission 5-2 is a battle with the shadow lord, something that you want to do with a bunch of lvl +60 friends. If one is only wanting simply for the rank, I will charge, because that is suppose to be a fun experince. If one thinks it's unfair to be charged, it should be re think instead of paying, but to do it the old fashion way. I never tell people they need me, but i only ask if they wish my assistance, I wish for a reward. I encourge them to ask others for a cheaper deal, but I can and will get the job done, but sadly to say only for a reward.

/bow thank you
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Could you possably cop out any more.

You had bad exsperiences, as does everyone. So you make the game and the community worse by taking your frustration out on everyone.

I must say you sir a true genieus..... :roll:

As for this farce about asking if we need your "assistance" you said "this group can't do this mission alone..." "you need my help..". Nor did you ever tell us to check anyone else for help.

Charging for simple basic things that you can so easily help with, is not only wrong, it's greedy. And telling a lie to cover your butt just makes it worse.

Stop takeing your frustration out on others for no reason! It just makes you look worse!

As for becoming your friend... {Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass!} I couldn't stand spending time with some soo petty and greedy.

P.S. If your going to charge people for your services, you might wan't to add refresh to your list of services! Or do you charge an extra 1 K for every refresh?

P.P.S. Especially seeing as how I the BLM was out damaging you and I couldn't rest during the second form, a refresh would have been nice seeing as how I'm paying you... :roll:
 
i never knew you that long teppo. you invited me to your LS, which i gladly accepted since ihad known so many people in it. i really enjoyed it for quite awhile, but things really went downhill fast. you got me my RDM af hat which i will always be grateful for since i had trouble getting that done.

however, after i left DS (which was right before the break up), you totally snobbed me. i said hi to you, waved to you, nothin back. and then now that i hear these stories, i dont know.. i cant say that i really respect you much for those things.

im really sorry to hear that you have done such things, and others.
 
I reallly don't see a problem with charging some for soloing coffer keys for people, or for soloing shadowlord. Since you will be doing the majority of the work, and spending your time to help them, the least they could do is give up a little gil. I find it annoying when people I don't know send me /tells asking for help with something, regardless of whether i'm in a party, or I'm busy or not. It's even more annoying when they won't take a no or {I'm sorry, I'm busy now} for an answer. I don't mind helping when I can, but if it's something that has the chance to get me killed, I'd like a little hazard pay.

If you don't want to pay him, then get other help. It's not like he's forcing you to buy his services. While he may not be saying "oh, if you don't want to spend that much gil renting my rdm, then try this person," it should still be fairly obvious that you can refuse the help if the price is too high or negotiate. Don't just bitch if he's the first/only person you went to and he charged you.

I don't know about this coffer stuff in Garliage, and frankly I don't care. It's in the past and the differing accounts make it harder to see what really happened, but I can see how people wouldn't like him for that. The only people who should hate him though, are the people there for the coffer, everyone else is just hating him because others said to. If he was camping it, then it's not his fault that he beat you and you shouldn't hate him for it. I've lost coffers to other campers, as I'm sure a lot of people are. I was pissed then, but I got over it.

He helped a ton of people in DS, for free, and a bunch screwed him and the LS. It sucks that he broke it up, but he had his own reasons for that.
 
o.o Kat, u told me how to play ninja, and i did everything u asked, how can u say i wasnt listening. I kept decent hate while u kepted voking urself - .-.

And Coh, only reason why i didnt help you was because u broke ur promise, I asked for u to wear the ls most of the time, but u didnt. You did just what people did before, and u even rubed it in the ls's faces. "Oh, if this is wont help, I'll ask my other one. They do it for skill up, I was insulted. Especially i was workin on something else when u asked. You helped me twice for my Test, and I helped with you af, and at least got ur af. also I say i'm lazy because i really dont wanan do things for other people, I want to do what i want to do. I rarily ask for anything for myself. What I wanted was a god/hnm/dyn ls, but that never worked out.

And Neop, I was told by others I got sick of the ls cuz "Neop got sick of af runs". I only ask people that want to Help to help, other then that, lvl please. I was offened because of what was told me, when i started soloing afs and being told that u did everything. New ppl came in and felt a bigger burdin was laid on ur shoulders, when i never once singled you or anyone out to help. You felt I became a snob, but never thought how hard it is for me to work for people, that just ended up leaving me. The most i asked of anyone was just to lvl. But I guess in your eyes I was still a noob cuz i was lackin the Hnms and Gods everyone wanted, but no one wanted to lvl for.
and for the guy bugging me bout charging. Dont single me out, If anything blame yourself and anyone else offering rewards for help to begin with. I do not want to work for anyone anymore just so i can be forgotten the next week. I read a post that Uzor put up. He's starting to understand how i Feel bout helping for free and mentioned charging too. So if you dont want me charging, dont offer anyone rewards and do it like everyone else did before all the 75s came in.
/sigh /bow thank you.
 
So if you dont want me charging, dont offer anyone rewards and do it like everyone else did before all the 75s came in.
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You mean beg the JPs? :D :twisted:
 
I'd like to add that I like teppo and never had a problem with him...I think its nice of some of the 75's to only charge 25-50k for what always ends up being 3-4 hours of helping a noob like me. After all during that period they could be farming, crafting, fishing, turning tricks...or anything else to make money. :lol:
 
Never had a problem with ya Teppo, 'cept I was annoyed by all those faces you made. Damn that shit was annoying :P
 
I read a post that Uzor put up. He's starting to understand how i Feel bout helping for free and mentioned charging too.
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What do you mean starting? :P

I've felt like that for ages ^^
 
well me and teppo get along well, he helped me with dark spark charged me 10k, no biggie its not that much. i run my own ls also and have helped many of them out on af's and genkai's. and i also see many of them leaving my ls, and it also pisses me off. i invested time in these people to strengthen my ls, so we can do hnm's rank missions and other stuff togetther, and all i end up with is more people to help do the same shit over and over again.
what if he had decided to just be an ls memeber in an ls, he would never have helped all the people he did help. he would just be another lvl 75 u /t when ur looking for help. most people would not have heard of him. its too bad he didnt help every single person that asked, even if he intended to do so. guess what, u were probably one in a long list of people who had asked him.
i run a fairly small ls, and everyday i still get 5-10 requests for stuff, from af to genkai, to wondering how to put on a sub job. and almost half of the people i've helped all the way up from getting kazham keys, and even sub job stuff, have bailed out. see them running around with another ls, and i'll let u know, that shit sux. its like i wasted all that time to only see them at ah for a /wave and thats it. when people ask for help, i think, is this guy even going to be in my ls tomorrow, or is he going to another ls, just using mine for help.
everyone should start their own ls and recruit 20 people lvl 40-50 and watch them until 60, then watch them go, and see what ur opinion of teppo is.
as for the issue of being a good or bad player, i've only seen him kick dark sparks ass, no problems there.
 
My beef is that you broke the LS... lol

Well my whole deal with you Teppo is that your broke the LS and after helping a lot of the members with their af, genkai, or babysitting their kids (w/e) i was a lil peeved that you broke it. We were all a family and you broke it because you threw a fit. LOL. Well anyways we all got back together to form another LS but for you to break the shell after ive invested a lot of time and effort into it is not cool at all. :evil:
 
Yeah Rayn.... I got kicked out for some reason from the new LS, went to sleep with the game on and I woke up with a broken pearl. No one responded to me when i asked for a new pearl. I was thinking someone booted me by mistake, guess not. Tell everyone I said they can kiss my ass.
 
i know rayn, i know what i did. To be honest, it was feeling less of a family when more ppl kept leaving. I was sorta hurt when you rubed a god ls at me -.-. I never said anything tho. I was always told from the ones that left meh ls, they didnt owe me anything and I shouldnt expect anything. This is true, and I also feel used from that. we did rdm af3 6 times in one day, and many times more after. It really made me very upset we didnt have one 1 +60 rdm for the HNM we did for such a short amount of time. We also did whm af3 for dozes of whms and only had 4 whms even show up in the ls. People kept using me and the devoted people that worked so hard. The people that stayed always complained how things were, no one was happy anymore, and the stress was getting to me irl. That should never happen, i shouldnt be irriable to people irl because of stuff in a game. i am sorry for those that stayed with me, and worked hard. I hope everyone has a new and better ls now.
/bow thank you.
 
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