Terrible - vermillion cloak.

[Hecate]

I wasn't automatically flaming Shizia, even if Flameass caused him to retaliate in that manner. I can understand why he was angry, hell I would be too, but there are other ways for Shizia to express his anger instead of saying "fuck" every other word.

 

[Xerius]

but i DONT deny the fact people will obviously treat some people better dante.

what im saying is, do you honestly have to stand by the "respected" people even when they are wrong? people who are respected get their reputation because they are kind etc., or they are people who tend to hold back and try to be mature in how they act. When someone acts immaturely and outright provokes people, then it leads to them LOSING their respected status. Do you get what i mean?

For example, if someone is known for being a kind person, someone who gives others chances when they are wrong and gives them the opportunity to change and bears with them. If this same person who would get respect all of a sudden changed and started provoking and laughing at people, would u not change ur perspective of them?

That is what im trying to get at, even when these "respected" people are wrong, people are STILL so BENT on helping them and supporting them, "jumping on the bandwagon" so to speak.

Shizia is short-tempered and obviously immature at times. He often replies with the same profanity etc. But in this case I dont see why it is unwarranted. If i were to give u shit for no reason when something unforunate happened to you im sure u would be pissed too. YES shizia made a HUGE mistake lending such an expensive item out, but do we hafta flame? If lets say for example, Jazper lent out his Byrnie to a noob and got it stolen, sure we would tell him "Jazper maybe it wasnt the best idea becuase the person is a stranger" since it is natural to tell him it was a bad move on his part. But would we say "i dont see how a person like Jazper could even attain such an item to begin with" and start criticizng the fact they could afford the item. See what i mean? Do we really have to rub it in Shizia's face?

Thats what i mean

 

[Bajaratt]

but i DONT deny the fact people will obviously treat some people better dante.

what im saying is, do you honestly have to stand by the "respected" people even when they are wrong? people who are respected get their reputation because they are kind etc., or they are people who tend to hold back and try to be mature in how they act. When someone acts immaturely and outright provokes people, then it leads to them LOSING their respected status. Do you get what i mean?

For example, if someone is known for being a kind person, someone who gives others chances when they are wrong and gives them the opportunity to change and bears with them. If this same person who would get respect all of a sudden changed and started provoking and laughing at people, would u not change ur perspective of them?

That is what im trying to get at, even when these "respected" people are wrong, people are STILL so BENT on helping them and supporting them, "jumping on the bandwagon" so to speak.

Shizia is short-tempered and obviously immature at times. He often replies with the same profanity etc. But in this case I dont see why it is unwarranted. If i were to give u shit for no reason when something unforunate happened to you im sure u would be pissed too. YES shizia made a HUGE mistake lending such an expensive item out, but do we hafta flame? If lets say for example, Jazper lent out his Byrnie to a noob and got it stolen, sure we would tell him "Jazper maybe it wasnt the best idea becuase the person is a stranger" since it is natural to tell him it was a bad move on his part. But would we say "i dont see how a person like Jazper could even attain such an item to begin with" and start criticizng the fact they could afford the item. See what i mean? Do we really have to rub it in Shizia's face?

Thats what i mean

It's a lot harder to gain respect after everyone doesn't like you than it is to lose respect after you already have it. While people do change, they have to put forth much more of an effort in order to get past their previous reputation. Face it, they haven't done much worth of respect and they'd done a lot more to lose it.

About the part where highly respected people gain backing even when they're wrong. I don't think that this is the case in the majority. While there will always be cheerleaders/friends to defend them, most of the respected people are objective enough to realize when someone did something wrong; that's part of the reason they're respected to begin with.

Lastly, this was posted on the flameboards, so don't be surprised to see some flames happen.

 

[Flameass]

Yes i was a bit abrupt in my reply, but it was just my observation that i only ever see shizia out in exp zones or standing around in jeuno. Unless you have bank, you wont be making muhc gil inside jeuno.

 

[Darkdante]

Do you think it "possibly" could be the fact that WSM started this thread? Heres a guy who stomps on people saying sorry. Flameass was the second post before anybody else.

If you want to argue about respect with WSM you started at the bottom of the pile.

True people do go overboard. But some people ask for it Xerius. And if Shizia didn't want to get flamed, he/she should have thought twice before getting WSM involved. A smarter person would have known what would happen.

 

[takinori]

its called farming u fucking jackass son of a bitch.

devoting time and hours to farming only.

u know i am getting really fucking tired of helping people out and i am strongly considering saying fuck all of u son's of bitches.

I am not accusing you of anything.. but... usually the only people who get hostile when accused of buying gil are the ones who buy gil...

 

[Bajaratt]

its called farming u fucking jackass son of a bitch.

devoting time and hours to farming only.

u know i am getting really fucking tired of helping people out and i am strongly considering saying fuck all of u son's of bitches.

I am not accusing you of anything.. but... usually the only people who get hostile when accused of buying gil are the ones who buy gil...

Yeah, there's no reason for a completely legitimate player to get upset for being falsley accused of buying gil.

 

[Ronith]

Yeah and if I loaned you my harness, you'd give it right back... :roll: I wish. So you wont ever touch it is my policy.

As a side note how the hell can this bum lvl whore shizia even manage that kind of gil without buying?

Well just to defend him...(hope I don't get flamed for this ><) Shiz literally spends weeks farming and to be honest I really don't think he buy's gil, I see him farming alot...so dunno

 

[Ronith]

its called farming u fucking jackass son of a bitch.

devoting time and hours to farming only.

u know i am getting really fucking tired of helping people out and i am strongly considering saying fuck all of u son's of bitches.

I am not accusing you of anything.. but... usually the only people who get hostile when accused of buying gil are the ones who buy gil...

Yeah, there's no reason for a completely legitimate player to get upset for being falsley accused of buying gil.

and all this...I got accused of buying gil and when people say that...it only pisses them off more...I DO NOT buy gil and I get pissed when people say something about it, because it is fucking ANNOYING when people keep...on...accusing you of that shit... -.-

 

[Bajaratt]

its called farming u fucking jackass son of a bitch.

devoting time and hours to farming only.

u know i am getting really fucking tired of helping people out and i am strongly considering saying fuck all of u son's of bitches.

I am not accusing you of anything.. but... usually the only people who get hostile when accused of buying gil are the ones who buy gil...

Yeah, there's no reason for a completely legitimate player to get upset for being falsley accused of buying gil.

and all this...I got accused of buying gil and when people say that...it only pisses them off more...I DO NOT buy gil and I get pissed when people say something about it, because it is fucking ANNOYING when people keep...on...accusing you of that shit... -.-

Well, I was being sarcastic, because I'd get mad if I was accused of buying gil(I don't, just incase anyone thinks that). Apparently it didn't come through enough in the text, sorry.

 

[Valcristiel]

Something I want to know.. because I remember seeing shizia in January or Feb .. asking me where to buy a LS in sandy. At the time he was a lvl 24 war rank 2 .. with Winged boots+1 on.. now I read here how he says he farms forever.. lol but how the hell do you buy winged boots +1 when you just started? plus a lot of +1 gear Oo unless somebody let him borrow it .. but then... I Later notice him shouting in Jeuno for a peacock charm inexhange for his winged boots+1 and emperors pin.. lol at this point.. I realize he really doesn't know much because he just started.. obviously, why? because he doesn't camp nms lol later
maybe 2 days I see him shouting for a full set of Kampf set.. for about 400k or so not much but damn lol farming at such a low lvl and having that much money already? I never see him in the low lvl nm camps (This being around the time he was 24). So now.. he buys a Vermillion cloak.. which is worth 5 mil + and says he farmed forever for it... hmmmm ...... hahahahahha.. no brainer there.. Shizia.. hahahaha

 

[Bajaratt]

Some people don't know which NPC's sell linkshells. The only one I know of is in bastok, so I'd have to ask around in sandy or windy. He also could have been on a lower job and could have switched nations recently. Just trying to give the benefit of the doubt, but I've never met him in game, so I don't know.

 

[Hecate]

Well, I was being sarcastic, because I'd get mad if I was accused of buying gil(I don't, just incase anyone thinks that). Apparently it didn't come through enough in the text, sorry.

Haha, the complete opposite happend to me. I was serious and people thought I was being sarcastic... then I got yelled at -.-

 

[Mishaela]

Lyrai's icon makes elvaan's actually look..er..sexy. '

ANYHOW....personally, I think the fact that Shizia loaned out a Vermil is in a way nice, in a way foolish. And the whole "f-!k u f-!king f-!ks" thing is just aggrivating....but nomatter who the person, borrowing their stuff and not returning it is just horrible. If you don't want to/don't think you can party with the item when the time comes to return it, shouldn't try to borrow it in the first place.

Gilsellers don't count towards my opinion onloaning/returning items.

 

[takinori]

I still don't see why a legit player should get upset for being accused of buying gil. I don't get uptight about this game as much as others i guess. When I am accused I calmly explain. I don't go all M-Fing on everyone. Most people I know also do the same. You have to have commen sense and realize:
1) There is no reason to be mad because you do not buy gil.
2) Who gives a flying rats ass if others think you buy gil, cuz you don't.
3) They accuse you of buying gil because they are jealous of your hard work.

And logically you would get very defensive if you do buy gil because someone has pointed out a flaw of yours.

All of this stuff is common sense.

 

[Spriggan]

Yeah and if I loaned you my harness, you'd give it right back... :roll: I wish. So you wont ever touch it is my policy.

As a side note how the hell can this bum lvl whore shizia even manage that kind of gil without buying?

Well just to defend him...(hope I don't get flamed for this ><) Shiz literally spends weeks farming and to be honest I really don't think he buy's gil, I see him farming alot...so dunno

Woot i get to Flame Ron! :twisted: j/k

Ok Ron remember a LONG time ago when shizia joined LapDance LS when he was like a lvl 15war or what ever. i can remeber an LS member had like $20 left over from his Birthday so he bought 500k with it ( i wont say the members name coz hes a cool guy). When he told the LS Shizia was like "OMG you fucking nerd you sad ass lame cock, i cant believe you bought gil!!!"

I didnt realy care if he bought gil, at least he came out and told everyone, plus he lvled up woodworking and gave away all his items he crafted. Back to the point, about 2 days later Shizia started buying some nice stuff, i think it was a kingdom staff 100k i think, and thats alot of gil for a lvl 25ish person to be spending on crap like that. So one of the LS members ask how did he get the gil, Shizia replyed " i was in my Mog House checking my Delivery Box and there was 1mil gil! in there!!!" and the LS was like omg you bought gil after what you said?

He told the LS that someone must of sent him the gil by mistake ( altho this could be possible i let it pass), another day goes by and Shizia told the LS that the Same guy just sent him a kingdom Aketon, LS was haveing none of it everyone knew he bought gil it was realy fishy. His gil kept growing for a lvl 30 and he got sick of being called a gil buyer and he fliped and we where forced to boot him form the LS. If olny he admited to buying the gil just like the other LS member no one in the LS would of cared and we could of gone on happly ever after, and possible Shizia wouldnt be what he is today!!!!.

I left the game for two months and when i come back who do i see in the LS list... Shizia!... with a pearl sack! And i loved that LS so much, but i couldnt stand to be in the same ls as him, so i moved LS pop in LapDance once and awhile. The thing that gets me the most now is that Shizia is the same lvl as me so there is the possibility (sorry if i spelt it wrong) that i could be partying with him...

And Shizia if read this i realy dont have anything against you, APART from the way you flamed that LS member for buying gil and being open about it and the next thing you do is go buy some.

 

[Ardougne]

theres like 3 pages of talking about how Shizia buys gil... Make a new topic if u gonna talk about that... it just dont fit in with this topic... btw. All those who buy gil are gay and they will never have any kind of relationship (friends, family, girlfriend, etc.) with the opposite sex. Just thought i add that ^^

 

[Elemmire]

Gilsellers don't count towards my opinion onloaning/returning items.

my goal is to befriend gilsellers.. borrow from them.. and profit :lol:

 

[Princemercury]

Gilsellers don't count towards my opinion onloaning/returning items.

my goal is to befriend gilsellers.. borrow from them.. and profit :lol:

I wish I thought of that....

 

[Elemmire]

Gilsellers don't count towards my opinion onloaning/returning items.

my goal is to befriend gilsellers.. borrow from them.. and profit :lol:

I wish I thought of that....

I say we all do it! screw em outta their items and such and make money and piss em off enough to make em quit the game XD