Thanks a lot Meeze.....

Rones that would be a bad idea...they'll be dirty pictures of ME!!!!
 
*Double checks Sabia's pic on ffxi players webpage....* Give me a minute while I find the biggest avatar possible. :twisted:
 
Rones said:
*Double checks Sabia's pic on ffxi players webpage....* Give me a minute while I find the biggest avatar possible. :twisted:

:o
 
SlizenDize said:
I just got a question.
Why these flames about people buying gil?
I can see why you want people to stop start buying gil but when it comes to friends you've known for a long time, I don't understand that.
I mean Do YOU want them to quit the game or what?
If you got any issues talk to the person in /tell Do NOT bring it up here so the person can be acused for something which might not even be true because people will always remember that the person might be a gil buyer. Can you imagine what would happend if you got acused for something like that when you had worked your way to the very top?
People would lose all respect for you and they would be angry and say things like "Aren't you gonna buy some more gil so we legit people cannot get our items which you so kindly buy before we can afford them". If the flames continue and it is hard to prove that you are in fact NOT a gil buyer then you might just had made a innocent player quit the game. A player who like everyone else had worked really hard to get to a point and earned his respect and friendships just so that someone can post a flame about Gil Buying so that person looses it all. Even if the person did buy gil I would rather have my friend in the game then feeling cocky about getting rid of a gilbuyer.

Don't get me wrong now. I am NOT accepting gil buyers but there are limits of how far you can go, you have to draw the line somwhere. And about Meeze I would never even start to imagine in my wildest fantasies that he would ever buy one single gil.

Enough with these ridiculous threads.
now, this is how it was explained to me.
a large amount of japanese people i have encoutered have told me that buying gil is viewed differently with them. "if you can't make it without buying gil then buy the gil so you can play the game instead of working the game"
these sentiments don't sit perfectly with my own moral guidelines but i see the valdity of this opinion. It's a game and if they need to buy gil to have fun how bad is it really for the economy? the same amount of farming is done, the same number and frequency of NM's are killed (maybe MORE dropped items are available due to gil sellers) the only difference is that someone else does the farming... that's like saying giving a friend gil you farmed hard to get is ruining the economy. the only difference is you give them something in return from outside the game. my IRL friend buys gil from my other friend using cafeteria food as currency. does the world explode because of this transfer? will it increase the price of leaping boots because mara paid 15k gil for a cheeseburger?
 
you guys are way too nice...I was more thinking pics like this though... :D

sabbydead.jpg

-Courtesy of Falsey

:twisted:
 
Sabia said:
you guys are way too nice...I was more thinking pics like this though... :D

sabbydead.jpg

-Courtesy of Falsey

:twisted:

thats hawt sabs :twisted:
 
meeze said:
thats cute, she's angry.


the prices on materials that went up, i was not the one to raise them. If i see a trend that moves the price up consistently to a certain point i will buy them at that point.

wings were 17-18k for a while and i bought them. then someone put them up to 19k, they stayed at 19k even with new supply coming in so i payed 19k, then they go up to 20, i wait people buying at 20k, i start buying at 20k.

when i started with philosophers they were at 50k, i bought at 50k.

someone jacks them between 50-55k because they werent showing up that often. after seeing this is where the price was stable at, those are the prices i paid for them.

My woodworking is at 60, it took along time to get it there. it got there in days of farming my ass off in pashhow to get my snipers(kind of ironic i got /tell'd by multiple people). i start to wonder why people buy the cuttings.

I start gardening. I'm growing sapplings, learn what sapplings are for, start growing ores(kind of excellerated that) took about 2 months of sapplings to start on ores. that makes me about 250-600k per mule.

i did alchemy to 52 in about 3 days. didnt spend more than 600-700k. i used cubswoo's guide on alla, made some adjustments, took smithing to 10, already had WW incorparated that into it.

I have 4 mules and meeze. one mule has cooking to 64, followed another guide, not an expensive craft. alchemy is not an expensive craft. I actually made alot of profit making bolt heads to bolts.

I haven't walked around with less than a million gil in i dont know how long. mostly stay around 1.5-2.5 mil. my mules generaly have about 500k. they do most of my sales obviously, and i replenish my character when needed.

when i started ranger i had about 3 mil on me. my alchemy and ww were both at 60 by then, i wasnt sure which way i wanted to go yet.

so i'm banging rng out, making my own holy bolt heads and bolts. lots of hq on bolts, saving tons, selling excess bolts as i go, and making more.

i read up on what is coming for ww and alchemy. ww has a lot of expensive synths that wont sell for shit. alchemy has a lot of consumables that sell fairly well, i choose alchemy.

i make venom dust>>venom potion>>bolts>>>ah profit

made a little paralyze potion, then went into bloody bolt heads>>bolts>>ah=profit

next levels sucked for me, i was at 81 for about a month. would ocassionaly buy materials to skill, (broken rods mostly) but wasnt satisfied with the route.

i start reading more into the days of the week to synth now that i'm not making profit, i start to concern myself with that. make some rods then find a nice synth on katana that caps at 91. the synth is 6k per synth, sells to npc for 1k, 5k loss.

you would be hard pressed to find any craft this level have a synth withh these good numbers.

about this time i started making 500k a synth, i dont think you know how, so i won't tell you. it's very easy, but takes a little investment.

lose on icaruswings, start on panacaea, well you know the rest.

Little about me, i'm 26 years old, i'm retired. I was a salesman, cars, retail, managed a store for one of the nations best electronics retailer. thats right, the whole store at 26, not just the some shitty department, the whole fucking thing.

walk into one of these stores you see the manager is like 40 years old, been with the company for years and all that other shit, i stepped in 2 years with the company took myself a store.

I'm a hustler, thats what i do, sales is in my blood, and i fiind a way to make a profit in everything i do. that is why i picked alchemy over woodworking, because i could make a profit most of the way up to 100.
even when i was losing money, the money from being able to have high alchemy kicked in and i kept my comfortable living.

when i started to lvl alchemy from 81-100 i sold e-bow, thats 9 mil. i bought it at 7.5 mil, used it for a little over amonth made 1.5 mil. my leveling partner was not able to lvl as much so i needed something to do.

bought a hauby+1, snipers, then a few of the other NQ gear for my drk. sitting on like 3 mil from that sale, plus having been idle with rng my normal money making schemes were bringing back to a normal level. i had close to 6 mil.

just these last two days i've made 1.5 mil, and made an investment that could profit me another 1 mil, bringing my total to 4 mil.

come on man, i aint no chump, i ball, i've been balling since i was 16, it is what i do.

i've taught people how i ball, given them pointers and they ball now too.

one of them makes more gil than i do, granted she works harder at it than i do.

if you are pissed that instead of losing 30k your losing 35k a synth on pro -ether cry me a river, i got better shit to put on ah, and fill my mules inventory than some crap i'm already losing my ass on.

it is clear you never ran a business, when you have a loss, you get rid of it. when you have a gain, you exploit it to its full potential.

don't ever come at me with that gil buyer bullshit because i'm better than you at something.

Sorry Vers but Meeze gots a point there, you lose >.<
 
So you sold your Ebow to pay for those last few levels?
How did you get the money for that Ebow in the first place if you never had more then 1m on you at a time?
 
Sabia said:
you guys are way too nice...I was more thinking pics like this though... :D

sabbydead.jpg

-Courtesy of Falsey

:twisted:

Damn JENDER where are you???? I need licking classes.
 
Legalus said:
So you sold your Ebow to pay for those last few levels?
How did you get the money for that Ebow in the first place if you never had more then 1m on you at a time?

reread my post, i said i havent had less than 1 mil in a long time, usually having 1.5-2.5. when i bought ebow i sold hauby(NQ) both snipers, mermans gorget, mermans earring, assault earring, leaping boots, emp hairpin(those two i had cause i lvl'd nin to 37) o. kote, jujitsu gi, jaeger mante, life belt. i also sold all my lvl 29 war gear which was HQ, and a bunch of shit that wasnt rng related.

basically i no longer had an armor mule, he was empty.
 
There is just as much a chance that either one of them is talking out of their ass.

I won't condem either until I see some evidence, and I suggest some of you fucktards do the same damnit.
 
Phraust said:
Flameass said:
Damn JENDER where are you???? I need licking classes.

If you need to be taught how to lick, you don't deserve to lick.
I need to better my technique to be worthy of sabia of course.
 
Flameass said:
Phraust said:
Flameass said:
Damn JENDER where are you???? I need licking classes.

If you need to be taught how to lick, you don't deserve to lick.
I need to better my technique to be worthy of sabia of course.

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

PS: thread-jack...whaaaaat?!
 
SlizenDize said:
I just got a question.
Why these flames about people buying gil?

Veresko already stated that he wasn't flaming about buying gil. He couldn't care less if Meeze was or was not. It was the fact that Meeze (so he thought) brought certain prices up or down.. depending on what they are.

Jemanie said:
Sorry Vers but Meeze gots a point there, you lose >.<

:roll: Now I don't know either Meeze or Veresko. But I really don't like the fact that people side with Meeze right after his post, even if he is right. I don't belive Veresko lied about anything, maybe he just interpreted the price histories differently than it actually happened. But "you loose" ?? c'mon...
 
meeze said:
Legalus said:
So you sold your Ebow to pay for those last few levels?
How did you get the money for that Ebow in the first place if you never had more then 1m on you at a time?

reread my post, i said i havent had less than 1 mil in a long time, usually having 1.5-2.5. when i bought ebow i sold hauby(NQ) both snipers, mermans gorget, mermans earring, assault earring, leaping boots, emp hairpin(those two i had cause i lvl'd nin to 37) o. kote, jujitsu gi, jaeger mante, life belt. i also sold all my lvl 29 war gear which was HQ, and a bunch of shit that wasnt rng related.

basically i no longer had an armor mule, he was empty.

Meh, I was just wondering.
Personally took me over 5 months to save up for my Ebow...
Vang can attest to the hell I went thru to get it...
 
In case if you were wondering how Meeze got his rng from 1-60 in a month. He starts cannon pt's with his wife, Partygirl. When i got an invite from Partygirl, she told me that they get like 3 rngs and 2 blms.

When i pt'd with them it was me(PLD) Meeze(RNG) Partygirl(BRD)
Johnnyb(RNG) Maddog(WHM) and some taru(blm).

we made 10K exp an hour, and broke the exp chain barrier
to like 300 xp a kill on chain 5.

I heard some rumors though that Johnnyb and Partygirl both buy gil :(
I really hate people who always accuse people of gil buying and selling.
But im having some supiscion about..
Asurathief(rank 3, no AF, wears merc. gear, Lv 57, and farms
tree cuttings in Zi'tah.)

A LS mate i know named Cami is very loaded with all the best gear for his mnk, and he told me one night that people are accusing him of buying gil. I know that he has been lvl 60 for like 6 months camping Meee deggi nonstop, if you did a /sea all cami, most likely you'll see him in Castle Ostroja. now he has a Scorpion Harness and Cross-counters.
 
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