I knew I'd be flammed in the end. Sorry this is a long post, but here's my answer to all that crap meeze put together to justify himself.
And if it took so long, sorry, I am not retired and have to work.
meeze said:
Keep your fantasies to yourself, I don't swing that way.
meeze said:
the prices on materials that went up, i was not the one to raise them. If i see a trend that moves the price up consistently to a certain point i will buy them at that point.
wings were 17-18k for a while and i bought them. then someone put them up to 19k, they stayed at 19k even with new supply coming in so i payed 19k, then they go up to 20, i wait people buying at 20k, i start buying at 20k.
when i started with philosophers they were at 50k, i bought at 50k.
someone jacks them between 50-55k because they werent showing up that often. after seeing this is where the price was stable at, those are the prices i paid for them.
For someone who claims to be a king at bunsiness, I don't think you understand the concept of price jacking. Of course someone will always try to sell their stuff for higher then the historic price, but guess what, you don't have to buy. Just like a supplier in business can give you a price increase, you can turn and buy somewhere else.
Before you started on Pro-ether, I have been leveling on those for a few weeks, buying enough material to make a few at a time then selling it back to get some money back. Ahriman wings have always been at 17-18K, but there was always a few at AH that you could not buy, since the asking price was 19K or 20K. And no one bought them, in an attempt to keep the price the same. That is, until you came along. I'm not saying you immediately bid 20K, but you bought all you could, without consideration for price, setting a history of price at 20K per wings. Nice going... business man....
As far as waiting for others to start buying at 20K before you do, that's bullshit. Again, I have been following the market for a while and just a few days before you bought everything, they were still at 18K. Even after I sent you a tell, when you said you would hold up and wait for the price to drop back, you bought some more at 20K the very same day (and no, I don'T have any screenshots, but Meeze just agreed here that he bought them at 20K).
If you look now, they have dropped back to 18K, since you left. And all the alchemist that I was competing with are back,
not paying 20K.
Moving on....
Meeze said:
about this time i started making 500k a synth, i dont think you know how, so i won't tell you. it's very easy, but takes a little investment.
Hakutaku cluster. Does'nt take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. You even posted about getting a damp eye (for 20-30% more then regular price might I add, again....). The thing is, I highly doubt you are mass producing these. Ask anyone who is trying to get the eyes, you can't get all of them within an hour checking people's bazzar.
If it's another magical synth, that makes you do 500K per synth, on NQ quality, that NO ONE though about or have discovered.... then you sir have truly a gift.... :roll:
meeze said:
Little about me, i'm 26 years old, i'm retired. I was a salesman, cars, retail, managed a store for one of the nations best electronics retailer. thats right, the whole store at 26, not just the some shitty department, the whole fucking thing.
walk into one of these stores you see the manager is like 40 years old, been with the company for years and all that other shit, i stepped in 2 years with the company took myself a store.
For the record, I could'nt care less about what you do in real life. But since you're bringing it up, I'm 28, I have my own company that produces office chairs, 35 000 of them a year, 60 employees, business numbers in the 8 digits, business partners in Italy, Spain, England and Germany, dealers all accross Canada and some in the US. Here's the site:
www.rouillard.ca
Surely you won't be impressed, so you can understand why your CV does not impress me either.
meeze said:
I'm a hustler, thats what i do, sales is in my blood, and i fiind a way to make a profit in everything i do. that is why i picked alchemy over woodworking, because i could make a profit most of the way up to 100.
You see, that's where I have a problem believing you. You leveled from 97-98 to 100 in a few days, not even considering the loss you were making on Pro-ether. Even more, you increased that loss, substantially, without even thinking about it. That to me, is not making profit in everything you do.
I saw you buying stuff in only the last stage of your leveling. You did not make a single penny leveling, plus, you increased the loss. So now you tell me before that you were making profit leveling? That all of a sudden, you stopped being carefull and just threw your gils out the window? That is hard to believe.
As far as proof goes, you all saw Meeze admitting raising the price of material and cutting the price of Pro-ether. I'm pretty sure you all see the loss there. Now it's up to you to ask yourselves, if someone does that in the most expensive stage of leveling alchemy, why did'nt he do it earlier? Personally, with what I witnessed and the rate at which you leveled, I think you did loose money all the way through your leveling, NOT making profit. And remember I went through it, you don't make millions leveling a craft.
Now, I'm not gonna quote all your post, but let me resume what you are claiming, money wise:
2 months ago, you started ranger with 3 mil from selling your DRK stuff. I'd say that is true, as I did the same. Also, your alchemy was at 60, same as wood.
Now, in these 2 months, with that initial 3 millions, you leveled ranger from 1 to 71, buying top notch gear and ammos, food, shihei, etc. You leveled alchemy from 60-100. You bought back equipment for your DRK. AND you bought an Ebow somehwere along the way.... with 3 millions.... wow....
Ranger, I have no idea how much I spent so far, but getting to 71 surely eats a large chunk if not all of that initial 3 millions.
Leveling alchemy. I explained earlier why I don't think you made all the money you claim making at leveling it. Bolts? Come on man, you think I'm gonna believe you made millions selling them? You cut the price of pro-ether drastically to clear your inventory but you did'nt do the same with 100 stacks of bolts? rrriiighhhttt....... Philosopher's stone, you said you paid 55K for them, plus other ingredients, that's 60K a synth. Let's say you were lucky with skillups and got one every other synth. 20 synth per level, 3 levels.... 3,6 millions. Same with Pro-ether, 20 synths per level (humm, I'm being very generous here), 2 levels... 2,2 millions. So that's almost 6 millions just for the last 5 leveles. Ok, for the sake of discussion, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and pretend you might have been break-even in the end, leveling from 60 to 100, even if it's evident you lost a lot in the end, like we all do.
Then you bought back stuff for your Dark. Including 2 snipers and Hauby +1. No idea how much it costs, but I'm sure you all have an idea of it.
Now, growing ores is very nice, but takes a couple of weeks. In 2 months, you could make maybe... I'm no gardener but I'll guess 5 millions? That's 4 mules producing ores ever 2 weeks for 2 months.
I can see using that money to buy your DRK stuff and all those guild points, cause you know you've been turning out items eveyr day. How much is it again, 1,5 - 2 millions to get the Apron?
So this boat barely holds water for now I'd say. But then, you also bought an Ebow for 7,5 millions? Man, that is a lot of bolts you made ...... :roll:
Now there is also time issue. You leveled Ranger 1-71, Dark ???-64, Alchemy 60-100 and accumulated guild points and you still had time to make millions to support your "life-style" as you call it? Bullshit.
You power-leveled your way through alchemy, loosing millions doing it. Don't claim you made a lot of money doing it, that's bullshit and I just gave numbers for the last 5 levels. YOU admitted loosing money even before that, from 81.
You spend hundreds of thousands, if not millions getting guild points at the guild.
You spent millions leveling ranger from 1-71.
You spent hundreds of thousands buy back DRK stuff and leveling it.
You spent 7,5 millions on an Ebow.
A synth that makes 500K per attempt? There's only one and maybe you did it once or twice... I'll give you that....
Ores? No way that covers allthe expenses.
Crafting money? Where the hell do you find time to do that. Maybe make a few thousands of gils, but 6-7 millions? Give me a break.
meeze said:
if you are pissed that instead of losing 30k your losing 35k a synth on pro -ether cry me a river, i got better shit to put on ah, and fill my mules inventory than some crap i'm already losing my ass on.
Funny, if you ACTUALLY do the math, Pro-ether was 33K and cost was 50K, so 17K loss. You brought it to a 35K loss. 17K--> 35K, not 30--->35K.
meeze said:
it is clear you never ran a business, when you have a loss, you get rid of it. when you have a gain, you exploit it to its full potential.
Agreed. And as far as running a business.... well I already had to get into that, unfortunately. But how does buying high selling low fits in that nice philosophy of yours? I guess that's how you....."ball".....
As for others who posted nice pics and nice emotes... lol, quite funny. You warn people not to jump to conclusion, yet you open your mouth and say AAaaahhh.... to whatever meeze say, without taking a look at wether or not it makes sense.
I don't have proofs like screenshot. What would I show? I agree with Meeze actually, screenshot would be worthless. I'd show him make a synth? Or camping the NPC for guid points? As for the prices claims I made, he admitted them to be true. As for the numbers I just ran and the conclusions, all based on what HE claims.
I'm not trying to make Meeze quite the game, I'm trying to make him stop spending like an imbecile the gil he bought and ruining it for honnest players. Someone said accusation like these can hurt an honnest player. What about the honnest players who worked their ass off to get to where they are, just to see some idiot storming in with all these millions he acquired god knows where (well, I have a pretty good idea) and screwing up the market for them?
And for the record, I'm not jealous you reached 100, I'm glad, as I said, now I can actually go back to leveling it. And I'm not pissed because you are supposevely "better then me at something". Cutting through the woods in a race does not make you better. Makes you a cheater.
I'm done with this. I exposed the facts, I explained them to you, I draw conclusions based on Meeze's allegations and showed you why it's stupidly improbable (note, not impossible, just HIGHLY, highly improbable). And it was nice to see some people agreed with me and I can tell a lot still do, from the discussions I had last night after posting this.
meeze said:
explain to me how the fuck i'm a gil buyer
I just did.
Good night.
