Devi : 70THF|60PLD|35WAR|37NIN|26SMN|24WHM
Anderithe said:Devi said:wolfskymoon said:If you have ability to sneak people then you should have sneaked him in the first place if you were that serious about exp.Sneak oil cost 10k a stack these days anyway so not everyone buys em.But if u didnt feel like sneaking him then obviously there was a chance for him to get aggro... and he was pissed to he warped.too bad.
Oh shut the fuck upWSM.....you're the kind of asshole that doesn't buy sneak oils, I just know it. Melee need to stop this "it's 10k for sneak" bullshit.
It's not that bad!!!! It's not leven 1k per oil. Get over it, buy the oil, shut thefuck up.
You have no fucking clue how much melee are being asked to spend these days do you?
Sneakypants said:The pissing match about who spends the most in game is ridiculous.
No matter what you play, come prepared as a general rule. That way, no one will think YOU SUCK! :lol: quote]
I definitely agree with this rule.
Anderithe said:Devi said:wolfskymoon said:If you have ability to sneak people then you should have sneaked him in the first place if you were that serious about exp.Sneak oil cost 10k a stack these days anyway so not everyone buys em.But if u didnt feel like sneaking him then obviously there was a chance for him to get aggro... and he was pissed to he warped.too bad.
Oh shut the fuck upWSM.....you're the kind of asshole that doesn't buy sneak oils, I just know it. Melee need to stop this "it's 10k for sneak" bullshit.
It's not that bad!!!! It's not leven 1k per oil. Get over it, buy the oil, shut thefuck up.
You have no fucking clue how much melee are being asked to spend these days do you?
Palum_Q said:Anderithe said:Devi said:wolfskymoon said:If you have ability to sneak people then you should have sneaked him in the first place if you were that serious about exp.Sneak oil cost 10k a stack these days anyway so not everyone buys em.But if u didnt feel like sneaking him then obviously there was a chance for him to get aggro... and he was pissed to he warped.too bad.
Oh shut the fuck upWSM.....you're the kind of asshole that doesn't buy sneak oils, I just know it. Melee need to stop this "it's 10k for sneak" bullshit.
It's not that bad!!!! It's not leven 1k per oil. Get over it, buy the oil, shut thefuck up.
You have no fucking clue how much melee are being asked to spend these days do you?
Blm
Elemental Staves
Fire
Earth
Ice
Wind
Lightning
Water
Light
Dark
Then we get into the actual spells.
Ancient Magic - 200k for Tornado. I haven't even bothered to look at Quake yet. Then yoiu have the -ga spells that have been hiked up. And then you have to spend so much money that you can NOT get back like a melee would to sell the item back. Count the money MAGES have to spend from level 1-75 and see if you can get that back.
On top of that, we carry echo drops (or should) to cancel out silence as mages are ineffective if we have been silenced and can't rely on a MELEE to fix that for us.
Then we get into actual exp-ing and we buy food just like the rest of the groups. And mage food is just as expensive depending on what you get. I personally choose Melon Pies+1 for Int boost and MP regen boost while healing and those are approx 30k/stack.
And when we enter magic aggro zones, we ourselves should have silent/prism medicines.
So where in there should I feel pity that a melee could spend an hour farming and purchase maybe a stack of medicines so he can safely get there as REGAINING the lost exp from dying could take just as long as farming. Plus, they'll probably expect me to D2, which I had to quest for myself for a good 3 hours or for some people who bought it, and that'll save the melee a walk home.
My blm is my main but I play MANY jobs and when I play melee, I generally do have sneak/silent medicinies.
And you know what? If the melee is the type of player to have the sniper rings, elite gear, they can figure out a way to get the 10k for medicines as they obviously figured a way to get the gear.
Anderithe said:How about this? All these items that you ask melee to bring? All the items I bring? All the gil that goes FLYING out the window from these one-shot items? NONE of them are needed, AT ANY DAMNED TIME. NEVER!!!
Sure, they are convenient as all hell, they help the xp per hour, and they make ya better, but the sad truth is a melee generally spends 3-4 times as much as a mage on consumables JUST TO HELP OUT!!
Anderithe said:Then you get on the forums and bitch/whine/piss/moan because ONE idiot who didn't have the common marbles to find the group lost sneak/invis and you had to run back and got killed. He couldn't find the pt, didn't have the items, and suddenlly half the melee are idiots.
Even those people who bring the items and don't want to are idiots! *ME*
Anderithe said:Let me tell you something and listen well PLEASE! I have seen TEN TIMES the mages enter parties w/o food then I have melee. You want to know how many times NINJA ASK FOR SILENA AND THE MAGE DIDN'T BOTHER TO BUY IT?!!
Anderithe said:But do we hear melee on the forums constanly whining like you do? NO! Do we get constant whining from veteran tanks about taking one for a mage who was dumb as a brick? NO!
Anderithe said:We get a warning in FAQs to buy echo drops in case you get idiot mages. That's what you get to help you.
Why?!
Because it is the long established tradition that you are the WHORES of this game and we support you with all that we are.
Anderithe said:Ps- You can gripe about the spells you buy for life the day a Ninja/Ranger can gripe about throwing gil at the money every time they xp. frankly, everytime I've heard a thread like that I've seen mages storm in and start bitching about 'that's the job you took' and 'oh god my spells are so expensive'!
Try a little dose of your own shit you keep spewing.
Flymop said:Why are there so many fucking stupid people on this game.
I get invited into a group on my 56 drk(firstly no message just an invite right out of the blue)so i thought hmm ok ill accept, so i do. Just me a thf and a rdm in pt atm, the thf says she has a pld and mnk waiting for us and is just searching for a whm. hmm ok fair enough, me and the rdm make our way to boyahda tree. along passes an hour. still the pt isnt ready. somehow the mnk and pld have got themselves back to jeuno and so they have to come out again. Finally the pt is together at tree and i think good we can finally start leveling. i move off to the camp spot, with the rdm and whm close behind. None of us have sneak yet we get there fine no agro, next the mnk thf and pld try to get through, first they spam for sneaks, i say you dont need them just be careful walking through, and pretty much as soon as i say it the dumbass retard pld goes and gets agro dies and instantly blood warps. Well what a great hour and a half of my life spent. My punctuation is crap because i can not be assed to do it properly.
Another great day on ffxi, another great party experience
Anderithe said:How about this? All these items that you ask melee to bring? All the items I bring? All the gil that goes FLYING out the window from these one-shot items? NONE of them are needed, AT ANY DAMNED TIME. NEVER!!!
Sure, they are convenient as all hell, they help the xp per hour, and they make ya better, but the sad truth is a melee generally spends 3-4 times as much as a mage on consumables JUST TO HELP OUT!!
Then you get on the forums and bitch/whine/piss/moan because ONE idiot who didn't have the common marbles to find the group lost sneak/invis and you had to run back and got killed. He couldn't find the pt, didn't have the items, and suddenlly half the melee are idiots.
Even those people who bring the items and don't want to are idiots! *ME*
Let me tell you something and listen well PLEASE! I have seen TEN TIMES the mages enter parties w/o food then I have melee. You want to know how many times NINJA ASK FOR SILENA AND THE MAGE DIDN'T BOTHER TO BUY IT?!!
But do we hear melee on the forums constanly whining like you do? NO! Do we get constant whining from veteran tanks about taking one for a mage who was dumb as a brick? NO!
We get a warning in FAQs to buy echo drops in case you get idiot mages. That's what you get to help you.
Why?!
Because it is the long established tradition that you are the WHORES of this game and we support you with all that we are.
Ps- You can gripe about the spells you buy for life the day a Ninja/Ranger can gripe about throwing gil at the money every time they xp. frankly, everytime I've heard a thread like that I've seen mages storm in and start bitching about 'that's the job you took' and 'oh god my spells are so expensive'!
Try a little dose of your own shit you keep spewing.