The General Discussion Thread

Xalioniaf said:
I think the point Elemmire is trying to make is that he doesn't want Square Enix to make any money.

Making a relic did have a theoretical cap -- if every single Dynamis run went back-to-back to back nonstop, and you bought every coin from every group that ran, you'd still be capped by the number of currency that dropped to all those groups that week. Granted, that's a big number, but it's also something that'd never happen; you're not the only one making a relic, after all. It's a lot easier now that any butthole surfer can go on a fresh 99 BST or THF and farm up some coin, but it wasn't always that way.

Honestly, Mythology Tomestones are the only things that you're limited to earning weekly? Maybe Binding Coil progress, I haven't really read up on it? That sounds like a fair tradeoff when virtually anything else you want to do is unlimited. I'd kill for some more areas to farm tomestones from, but it sounds like they are adding at least four new dungeons in 2.1 (two hard mode dungeons, a brand new one, and Crystal Tower).

Of course, whining about the cap is only valid assuming you even hit the cap week after week. I don't know about anyone else, but I can only tolerate so many Garuda/Titan/AK runs each week before I get bored and go level another class. I've only come close to the cap once, and that was just last week when I was making a specific push to get a Hero's jewelry piece.

wrt the new XI UI, I haven't really read up on people's opinion on it from the test server stuff, and I'm wondering how much people like it. I don't think I could ever go back to not using Spellcast for macro execution, but XI's old UI is so booty I don't see how anyone who plays on PC these days could tolerate it. I'd welcome the change on the official servers, even with the butt ugly UI they have on the test server.
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Don't put words in my mouth >.> my point is I want all MMOs to try and make games that don't force you to deal with mechanics PURELY for the point of drawing out the game time like artificial caps on the gain of a resource (why do people bitch about it with facebook games more so than MMOs?) and more for things that at least are fun and make sense for that game and its world. There can be a weekly cap as long as there's a reason. At least put some effort into it and not so blindingly "hey, we're just doing it cause we wanna milk you of money" I don't mind them making money, but they shouldn't be so blatantly predatory about it. And even then, try and not do that in the first place. I'd say there's enough content and options in the game as well as the total costs for maxing out your AF2 + relic+1 that a cap isn't even necessary. The very few who will do that are those who have absolutely no job/anything else in life and grind like no tomorrow.

Also, I dunno why you'd find it hard to cap. I help many of my FC with the AK runs and I still love doing Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan. They are fun fights.
 
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Elemmire said:
Also, I dunno why you'd find it hard to cap. I help many of my FC with the AK runs and I still love doing Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan. They are fun fights.
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Because currently the small pool of events that drop mythology makes it easy to get bored of farming them. Maaaybe once they add in those new dungeons I'll hit the cap more easily and I'll get to experience what it's like yelling at stop light telling it to change.
 
Got my normal relic this week. 1 piece away from full DL because CM suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. I wish more people did praetorum its a lot more fun.
 
yeah cm is horrible, thats why i just run AK, even if my myths are capped. i know, its 20 less philos per run, but its alot more fun.


Finally got my DL finished earlier this week, now I've been spending my philo's on the crafting items and selling them. all i can say is......... damn..... selling coke is pretty dang lucrative XD with the philo crafting items, and spirit bonding/converting, made like 800k this week so far. hoping to break 1 mil on Friday.

thelona gonna get a sweet new pad come 2.1 :D REALLY lookin forward to player housing.
 
Romper said:
Got my normal relic this week. 1 piece away from full DL because CM suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. I wish more people did praetorum its a lot more fun.
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I'd like more people willing to do Praetorium. The boss fights are WAY more fun. CM's are just "here's a normal looking mob and the gimmick of the fight is SPAWN ALL THE ADDS!" not very fun.

As for the philo stones, I've been conflicted at buying the items to sell or to use for future DL gear.
 
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if your going to use them for sellable mats, i suggest you do so before 2.1. the market is super inflated atm, gil being thrown around like candy, the housing is going to change all of that. its going to drain very very large chunks of gil out of the economy for pretty much the first time so far. thats going to have big effects on gil.

Also as more people fill out their darklight and start selling the crafting item, the markets going have more and more of those items floating around.
 
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ah so wait, why do people want these philo stone items? I see people offering 50k for em at points. Thinking of starting to use em for that instead of alt DL gear then cause I could use the money. I think I could easily make 500k a day then if people are really buying :P
 
They're used for crafting two-star level 50 crafts for Armorer, Blacksmith, Weaver, and Leathercrafting.
 
I've done Titan enough times to know what I need to do and when I need to do it, for every phase.

Now I just need a win.







Help
 
:o I got my Garuda Book on my first win, just yesterday morning. :D
 
Just recently hit 50 and had a pretty nice loot day. Got 1/1 Ifrit weapon and then got AK head, feet, and legs on my first ever AK run!
 
Very nice Tyrath, that is some good luck! I took a break from my Summoner to work on my Thm a bit more and went from 26 to 30 and unlocked Black Mage. :D So I'm happy.
 
Tyrath said:
Just recently hit 50 and had a pretty nice loot day. Got 1/1 Ifrit weapon and then got AK head, feet, and legs on my first ever AK run!
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And now you and Tymon get to carry me through shit! lol :P
 
Lanien said:
And now you and Tymon get to carry me through shit! lol :P
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Yeah. Just gotta find good time when we all playing lol. You'll be easy because you're healer. I couldn't go on the same AK with you if you were a DPS cuz we'd gimp out the damage lol.
 
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So this happened yesterday.
 
Grats there Xali!
 
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My fists, they glow.

Tyrath said:
Yeah. Just gotta find good time when we all playing lol. You'll be easy because you're healer. I couldn't go on the same AK with you if you were a DPS cuz we'd gimp out the damage lol.
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My Paladin is almost 50 (44 or 45). I also can help you guys clear AK as my monk too. Just shoot me a /tell in game (Romper Stomper).
 
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Nice there Raes.

No relic for me yet. I still have to beat Titan, ...but I have the next best thing.

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Tyrath said:
Just recently hit 50 and had a pretty nice loot day. Got 1/1 Ifrit weapon and then got AK head, feet, and legs on my first ever AK run!
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I was never good with drops, lol on any game, I'm 0/12 on Ifrit bow, and that fight is getting annoying, as the black mages don't LB the tooth picks until it's already to late. I just gave up for now to level up gathering and crafting.
 
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