The jins.Yes i was wrong

I agree with Von....stealing is a pretty crappy thing to do...

Then again, if the LS is pulling corrupt crap like giving L60 NINs full god sets and I had a 75 job that could use it & been working for over a year with nothing to show, I know I'd prolly do some pretty mean things too..not saying stealing is right for any reason, but after so much effort and watching people who put in considerably less work and get the stuff, I can understand why it was done..
 
but i'm still sorry to dissapoint the ones who i did.

WSM....dude..... YOU MADE MY FREAKING DAY WITH ALL OF THIS!
now.. if more BE members would man up to the thievery among them by their leaders!
 
Blazeoffury said:
I was in the shell the day they decided to wanna try and make a god shell, Chaosangel had gotten me in there. I have every right to an opinion, I started as the first whm, why noone mentions me.. prob because i wasnt 70+ yet I don't really know. But I have an opinion and it is this "Get out of there while you still can, do the smart thing and leave like I did, if not you are paying for more gear for the Jin empire to "leet" them selves out with."


I remember you. Whatever happened to Chaosangel? Maybe you can explain how paying for more gear to leet the Jin empire out ties into WsM not getting a Kote, despite his constant efforts, before Jing got one for his 60 nin? Don't take the OP down the gil road like every other thread here deterioriates into. The issue is WsM's claims to getting screwed in lot orders, and his subsequent lack of good judgment in stealing shit.

Do you recall WsM contributing? Do you think he was/is deserving? You were there, yet all you have to offer is a one liner about the Jins skimming. When did they skim from you? How much was it? What did they buy as a result from said skim? I'm not disputing that they did skim from you, just looking for a bit more meat on the bone than z0mfg they stole teh gil0rz from meh.
 
wolfskymoon said:
Von you saying means alot to me./bow.And man yes i thought about this many times before i actually did it... just didn't see any other options but i'm still sorry to dissapoint the ones who i did.


I can see why ya did it man. It just dosen't seem like something you'd do is all. Even after the theft I'd still say it's not enough. Coppin some material bullshit isn't pound-of-flesh enough. They can just re-buy the shit or whatever, and the whole thing is forgotten. You deserve your reward from all the effort, that much is undisputable, the problem is as long as I've known you you've stood on a Soapbox of fairness. Now your standing on it with stolen loot that quite frankly, dosen't repay what was really taken from you, that being your trust. This shit isnt worth your integrity.
 
From when I was in the shell, WSM was at every farming that took place. Did it surprise me he was even in the shell? Yes it did, because all I had heard of him was that he's a dumbass. Well I didn't care because he worked harder then alot of people in the shell did. Him and Aastharoth are both deserving of an osode especially before aLv. 60 ninja would ever think about getting one. Even though in my opinion it would have been Jeiger->Lexxi->Chaoswrath->Astharoth->WSM

There is about 3M I never recieved in payment from god fights. I left. I know 3M isn't a whole lot, but it's more then I was willing to give them to "leet" themselves out with.

About the whole WSM not getting an Osode and how it pertains to the Jin empire here's my opinion of it.
1.WSM helps, doesnt get paid, Jingod gets an Osode he doesnt deserve, gets gil he didn't earn and Powerlevels his bonecraft from 62-100 in about 1.5 weeks.
2.Never did they give out the full amount of gil from a god fight. Their defence was "You didn't help as much" So then you ask someone who didn't miss a day... and guess what!! they got the same amount of gil you did, leaving the jins with 2-3M extra to toy around with. 2-3M can add up fast and anyone who has ever needed gil can testify to how much of a difference 2-3M can make.
 
that being your trust.

The hardest thing to earn, the easiest thing to lose, the one thing next to impossible to earn back.
 
Blazeoffury said:
From when I was in the shell, WSM was at every farming that took place. Did it surprise me he was even in the shell? Yes it did, because all I had heard of him was that he's a dumbass. Well I didn't care because he worked harder then alot of people in the shell did. Him and Aastharoth are both deserving of an osode especially before aLv. 60 ninja would ever think about getting one. Even though in my opinion it would have been Jeiger->Lexxi->Chaoswrath->Astharoth->WSM

There is about 3M I never recieved in payment from god fights. I left. I know 3M isn't a whole lot, but it's more then I was willing to give them to "leet" themselves out with.

About the whole WSM not getting an Osode and how it pertains to the Jin empire here's my opinion of it.
1.WSM helps, doesnt get paid, Jingod gets an Osode he doesnt deserve, gets gil he didn't earn and Powerlevels his bonecraft from 62-100 in about 1.5 weeks.
2.Never did they give out the full amount of gil from a god fight. Their defence was "You didn't help as much" So then you ask someone who didn't miss a day... and guess what!! they got the same amount of gil you did, leaving the jins with 2-3M extra to toy around with. 2-3M can add up fast and anyone who has ever needed gil can testify to how much of a difference 2-3M can make.


I'm not too up on the whole Gil thing, which is why I don't really touch on it. Wheever there was gil to be habded out it was like 250kish and I'd always tell Hillz to keep it for his CC.

Funny thing is this: I quickly realized that a DRG in sky is about as useful as male nipples and took 1 month to speed a BLM to 75. At the time the only BLM we had was Jinshorty. When I came back to LS (I think BW was 73ish) I asked Jinsh if my farming points from VD carried over to BW since I wasn't going to be using VD anymore. The answer was yes, and 4 Genbu's later I got Zenith Mitts. Yet when Asth and WsM took their breaks, their points went back to 0. This stunk, and still does. The other shitty thing is, Boon would always let WsM know where he stood in orders, only to be vetoed come drop time. I don't understand why leadership would bait someone like this, then pull the rug out from under em at the last minute.

That was in now way shape or form intended to cast any aspersions upon Boondock. His commitment, integrity, and ethic are without any question whatsoever.
 
That was in now way shape or form intended to cast any aspersions upon Boondock. His commitment, integrity, and ethic are without any question whatsoever.

Agreed! Boondock is a greatleader, and BE would be way better off if he was the leader and made those decisions because he has true potential. He keeps his word, and won't change it because someone wants to suck his E-cock.
 
Vondoom, you were one of the most dedicated people I know, and you got along with the Jins as far as I saw, I think they just liked you more then Astharoth and WSM. But as a leader of a god ls jingod should have let astharoth and WSM keep their points as he did you, only way to be fair. But then we have to consider we are talking about the guy who warps out of dynamis after he gets his AF, the guy who constantly worked with Creeative back in the day. After I gave them a shot, the failed. I will give most people a second chance, I let WSM have a first chance, and believe it or not, He talks like a real person who is civilized in game.. nothing compared to what you read on the boards. Jingod MPK'd me a long time ago at a serket, unfortunately I was unaware of sellers back then. Now I know about all of it and if i could go back I would have never have given him a second chance.
 
Blazeoffury said:
Vondoom, you were one of the most dedicated people I know, and you got along with the Jins as far as I saw, I think they just liked you more then Astharoth and WSM. But as a leader of a god ls jingod should have let astharoth and WSM keep their points as he did you, only way to be fair. But then we have to consider we are talking about the guy who warps out of dynamis after he gets his AF, the guy who constantly worked with Creeative back in the day. After I gave them a shot, the failed. I will give most people a second chance, I let WSM have a first chance, and believe it or not, He talks like a real person who is civilized in game.. nothing compared to what you read on the boards. Jingod MPK'd me a long time ago at a serket, unfortunately I was unaware of sellers back then. Now I know about all of it and if i could go back I would have never have given him a second chance.


Agreed. The point re-distribution should be one standard across the board. Only thing I can think of is that they took breaks period, whereas I took mine to change jobs to something of use. That dosen't excuse it though IMO.

Trouble for me is that the Jinz have never one time done wrong to me directly. Sure there were many occasions where they pissed me off, but for some starnge reason they saw fit to keep me happy. I dunno why. I'm not all that great. Always seemed though that 3rd party opinions on 2 party issues, such as WsM's lot rites, were always dismissed reguardless of their validity.
 
Vondoom said:
Agreed. The point re-distribution should be one standard across the board. Only thing I can think of is that they took breaks period, whereas I took mine to change jobs to something of use. That dosen't excuse it though IMO.

Trouble for me is that the Jinz have never one time done wrong to me directly. Sure there were many occasions where they pissed me off, but for some starnge reason they saw fit to keep me happy. I dunno why. I'm not all that great. Always seemed though that 3rd party opinions on 2 party issues, such as WsM's lot rites, were always dismissed reguardless of their validity.
hello von :wink: nice see you still around. We at BE miss you.
 
hellstorm said:
hello von :wink: nice see you still around. We at BE miss you.

He made the best move he could... He left that shity LS.
 
Darklion said:
He made the best move he could... He left that shity LS
actally he still in shell just inactive. he went to WoW
 
hellstorm said:
actally he still in shell just inactive. he went to WoW

Crap of a LS made him quit... or leave FFXI for WoW
 
hellstorm said:
actally he still in shell just inactive. he went to WoW

Actually, As of the first of January the State of California has mandated that all electrical workers be IBEW (International Bearu of Electrical Workers) certified to work. Should one not be certified to work, they must be apprenticed under the umbrella of a Certified person not to exceed 2 apprentices per Certificate.

This has been whispered and rumored for years throughout California for close to 7 years now. Nobody ever thought that it would come to pass (I personally voted to recall that jackass Gray Davis and to elect Arnold Schwarzenegger to office to avoid just this thing, thinking Arnold and the Republican party would protect my right to work from Union greed. But thats another discussion for another thread) so nobody ever bothered to test. Now that the policy is enforced, I find myself being 1 of 2 people in a 175 person company that is certified. (not counting the Boss)

That being said, I volunteered to work in Fresno (About 2-3 hours from my home in Sacto) for 1 week prior to X-Mas. The legislation has since more-or-less trapped me in Fresno to facilitate the completion of a projected 6 month development. The city of Fresno is ill prepared to handle the influx of new construction and subsequent occupants of new homes. I guess the city dosen't have the utilities to spare (water, sewer, power, etc..) thus we are fast tracking it to try and circumvent State, County, and City ordinances ordering us to cease all construction.

Having only 2 certified people with a work schedule of 12 hours a day 6-7 days a week forces me to "umbrella" various types of inspections with inspectors who are very, very good at scrutinizing everything done, and whipping out portions of code so old that archaic dosent even begin to capture their age.

In a nutshell, I didn't go to WoW, I'm just not at home. There is a guy in our rented work-house who plays WoW, so I'm guessing Kile misinformed you. The project has a scheduled 7 weeks remaining, with whispers of us headed to New Orleans to help with the rebuilding in the wake of Katrina. We're currently looking into California workers working outside of California and weather or not the new Union laws apply there. If they do not apply, I'm not going. If they do, I'll have no choice.

Worst case scenario, the State of California currently has a backlog of 7 months for workers to complete the exam. At $150 a pop per person testing.....gogogo special intrest money!!! But again, thats a topic for another thread.
 
Until now I have decided to keep silent and ignore the drama that this site and the game tried to bring into my life. Firstly I want to introduce myself as some of you might know. My name is Boondock, 75 Paladin 68 Ninja. There have been accusations made suggesting that I have leveled ninja only to get a Osode which is a false accusation for which reasons I don’t have to show here. I have been friends with or tried to be friendly with everyone on our server. I will say I am friends with both the Jins and Wolfskymoon and have been for months. Having said this I am not going to flame anyone but simply point out the false claim’s which have been made over the past few days.

Firstly to set a timeline for the GBY/BE linkshell. Wolf says that this linkshell stole from him for his hard work over a 14month period. I began the game in late September 2004 and it took me well over 6 months to reach 70 with my first job, Pld. Assuming this only did take me 6months the GBY linkshell was created within weeks of me hitting 70. Assuming it took me this bare minimum to hit 70, that would say that the linkshell will be nearing its first year running as this month closes. Now Wolfskymoon claims that he has worked hard for the past 14months for GBY/BE linkshell. Wolf’s claims here are false as he is confused with the amount of time he has been in the shell. During the time of the linkshell running Wolf has quit multiple times and joined other LS as well. Each time Wolf left I faught for him to be allowed back in, nobody can deny that truth. Wolf claims that he only left the LS for 4 weeks tops which i know is not true and a lie to say otherwise. Regardless Wolf left the linkshell for Outerheaven a many months ago. The only problem Wolf had in his leaving GBY and goin to OH was that they would not let him join without bringing a whm and a blm from GBY along with him. So basically what Wolf did was persuaded two mages to leave and join the more appealing OH. So having said all this how could Wolf deserve anything from GBY (which he got pieces of keonig he asked for and Byakko pants) during is 14 months that he claims he farmed out of the maximum 12 months the ls has been running, while quitting and joining OH and leaving the game for months on end?

I would also like to adress Wolf's acusations toward the Jins stealing from the linkshell. Firstly all items from gods are sold and split by Hillzpac. Meaning THE GIL NEVER TOUCHES JIN HANDS OTHER THEN THE EQUAL SHARE. I assume wolf just does not realize that 30 people splitting 9mil isn't a lot.

Finally, I want to comment on the Jin family and Friends. Jingod, Jinshorty, Ladyjin, Sector, and Diacajin ARE ALL separate people who simply are related or friends. They are not mules and as far is the gil selling rumor is concerned that’s a total joke. The jins would not spend and help people out with so much gil if the where trying to sell it. How many gil sellers do you know, that dont camp HNMs 24/7 carry around Kracken clubs and gear that is not needed?

Finally I would like to comment that this is hopefully my first and last post on QCDN ever cause drama in real life is a no no for me. But Wolf leave people alone from now on I supported and fought for your rights more times then your willing to give me credit for and when someone comes along who deserves something more then you, dont get angry show the people in charge why you deserve it more... You could help ls for two years and not work as hard as legolias did to earn what he got. You let down me and others Wolf and that’s all I have to say.

Thank you all for reading this truth, and sorry for wasting your time.
 
@_@ The man, the myth, the ledgend. Few people outside of Hillz, Kile and Craven have earned my respect as much as Boon has. There seems to be new light shed on this topic. I'd like to see WsM's retort to the accusations made by Boon. WsM, I give the floor to you sir....



ps. Let's all spell Boon backwards. ^_^
 
Vondoom said:
@_@ The man, the myth, the ledgend. Few people outside of Hillz, Kile and Craven have earned my respect as much as Boon has. There seems to be new light shed on this topic. I'd like to see WsM's retort to the accusations made by Boon. WsM, I give the floor to you sir....



ps. Let's all spell Boon backwards. ^_^

n o o b
lmao
 
Only one thing I disagree with Boon..... In the beginning Jingod himself "split" the money.
 
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