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Pascal said:Amen CubsWoo
Perfectangel said:You will find rdm do alot more than be your refresh whore!
i aceed and accept that red mages do more than whore refresh but i will not conceed my initial point that refresh is the singular most important thing you do in a party that is totally mp reliant.Perfectangel said:The only think i have to say to a post like this is............
You think you can play red mage better than the people you are parting with, GO LVL YOUR RDM...
You will find rdm do alot more than be your refresh whore!
Panda said:How hard is it for you people to get it through your thick skulls that you are the only job in the game with that fucking spell, and that when you are invited to a party, people are expecting you to use it.
Blackchaoshero said:on a seperate note, i used to be a red mage fan all through FF, yeah i always had a love for black mages but when i had an option i turned everyone into red mages, they can cure, they can cast, they can take hits! that was rdm for me. 8-bit steered me more towards blm but the craptactular rdm's 41+ in this game have turned me against red mage forever. why can't you all be Dakko? he kep refresh on 6 men
Pascal said:We just take offence to people saying our whole job is refreshing. It’s only a part (yes a big part), but it is only a part.
deathsvengeance said:I like how you capitalized REFESH but not ENFEEBLEEnfeebling is equally important to party success. I hate RDMs that don't know how to play the job.
Eulore said:With tacos, I only get hit for about 70 damage, so an earth staff would only take off about 14 damage off per hit. Now with a shield, I'd take 1/2 damage every few hits.
Pannda said:No one is saying that the only thing a RDM needs to do is refresh.
Blackchoashero said:So.... in summary face it. You are there to cast refresh, that's pretty much all you have over all the other jobs that can do all that stuff you do, just please shut it and cast refresh.
What people want from you when you join a party is REFRESH
REFRESH. That's why you're there
CubsWoo said:And what does TP matter? You should be swapping in a Dark post-fight to make sure you have full MP for the pull, being Elvaan and all.
CubsWoo said:Eulore said:With tacos, I only get hit for about 70 damage, so an earth staff would only take off about 14 damage off per hit. Now with a shield, I'd take 1/2 damage every few hits.
Let's say your shield fires every 3 hits and absorbs half damage, and you take 70 damage a hit.
Sword/Shield:
Hit 1: 70
Hit 2: 70
Hit 3: 35
Total damage: 175
Earth Staff:
Hit 1: 56
Hit 2: 56
Hit 3: 56
Total damage: 174
Just about the same damage - but I'd venture to guess shield kicks in every 6 hits, not every 3. With that example:
Shield: 385 damage
Earth Staff: 336 damage.
So basically, your own example is proving how Staff would be more effective. And what does TP matter? You should be swapping in a Dark post-fight to make sure you have full MP for the pull, being Elvaan and all.