The virtue of Absolute Virtue

Something that always made me wonder. Why now? It was massive news when people were fighting AV for like 1-3 days and nothing came of that. They all just shrugged it off.
 
Myrrh said:
Something that always made me wonder. Why now? It was massive news when people were fighting AV for like 1-3 days and nothing came of that. They all just shrugged it off.
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There was lots of real media coverage of the 18 hour PW fight that made people sick; that's a lot of bad press they didn't want to have to deal with.
 
Moink said:
Look, if you feel that theres some form of compelling power telling you to post here then step back from this thread. Had you actually read any of this thread you'd realise this is a speculation thread. The only thing people are griping about at the moment is how SE has nerfed DRKclubing AV to death. The rest of the thread contains smartass comments or info pertaining to AV pre and post nerfs. Once more had you read any of this thread, you'd know where the link is for Sage-sundi saying AV is an 18 hour+ fight. :awesome:

Also to add go reread pages 11-13.
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I've been here the whole time, and I still haven't seen the link (just reread pp11-13 too). Last time I asked all that got posted was a dead link to a QCDN PW thread that I'm fairly certain SS didn't post in...
 
Courtney said:
I've been here the whole time, and I still haven't seen the link (just reread pp11-13 too). Last time I asked all that got posted was a dead link to a QCDN PW thread that I'm fairly certain SS didn't post in...
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Someone posted a interview that said it.

I'm going out now but I can try to find it later.
 
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Auron X said:
I believe that AV right now is unkillable and that there really is no way to kill it. I think a great idea that was mentioned on BG is that there is a contest for FFXI. The winning server has the dev team come to that server and kill AV on our server and not there bullshit Atomos server. So the people on our server can watch them in person and the fight would be broadcasted on PoL. They have no excuse not to do this. It is only a > 2hour fight instead of an 18 hour fight so that excuse can't be used. They can't complain about lag(hello kings and besieged).

Also, I love these comic strips.

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Love it.
 
I think that something can be said for the idea that AV is just SE's little beta testing toy. It does generate a lot of interest amongst the player base, some of whom pay their monthly fee with faith that they'll discover the "secret" to killing it. I mean, SE doesn't really have to do much other than dangle Ninurta's sash about and continually patch the crap out of their creature - the unattainable always does have a more elusive appeal.

As for the whole 18 hour fight deal, they could just turn around and say "you're not doing it right, you don't have to fight AV lols"

But something confuses me (forgive me if I am otherwise misinformed or havent read all the information here). From what I gathered, the development team took quite a while to take down AV in their vid. Now if it has been patched to depsawn after two hours, is it still even feasible to implement their strat (if it is eventually uncovered)?
 
hillz said:
he was beat on bismark a few days ago, guess hes easy to kill now. i checked minidragon and his title proved it. http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=48653
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Was easy to kill if you had enough Dark knights with zerg weapons.
And looking at his profile, the jobs he has and all the relic weapons he owns there must be a kraken knight in there too.
Looking at the LS he's from, there were probably at least 10 more.

However SE 'adjusted' that again last tuesday so we're back to the old drawing board.
 
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Lukas said:
I think that something can be said for the idea that AV is just SE's little beta testing toy. It does generate a lot of interest amongst the player base, some of whom pay their monthly fee with faith that they'll discover the "secret" to killing it. I mean, SE doesn't really have to do much other than dangle Ninurta's sash about and continually patch the crap out of their creature - the unattainable always does have a more elusive appeal.

As for the whole 18 hour fight deal, they could just turn around and say "you're not doing it right, you don't have to fight AV lols"

But something confuses me (forgive me if I am otherwise misinformed or havent read all the information here). From what I gathered, the development team took quite a while to take down AV in their vid. Now if it has been patched to depsawn after two hours, is it still even feasible to implement their strat (if it is eventually uncovered)?
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the strat would need to be modified to fit the time limit. The secret still remains the same, i would think unlocking it would probably make the battle go faster
 
I wonder why all of the AV drops stats are in relation to the number 6, or number 8
 
Reality said:
I wonder why all of the AV drops stats are in relation to the number 6, or number 8
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I doubt it has any meaning. God drops (haidate, sunate, etc) all have +15 stats and Kirin (Pole+Osode) all have +10 stats, but have no significance to anything as far as I know, least not to any strategy.
 
Pretty sure the +8 does nothing but beat out the next best at +7, unless there's a +8 acc/atk ring lying around I wasn't told about...
 
Reality said:
I wonder why all of the AV drops stats are in relation to the number 6, or number 8
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Lavi said:
I doubt it has any meaning. God drops (haidate, sunate, etc) all have +15 stats and Kirin (Pole+Osode) all have +10 stats, but have no significance to anything as far as I know, least not to any strategy.
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You guys evidently don't know your theology. 7 (i.e. the 7-level stats of the Jailer Torques), is considered to represent "perfection", while 6 and 8, flanking it, represent "imperfection"(6), and "what lies beyond perfection"(8).
 
Neisan said:
I still think it's overthinking, even though that is true.
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Nicholette is right about that and pretty much everything in this game has some reference to mythology or history.
 
Ya, there are many secrets and odd facts from all over the globe and itts history of different cultures implemented in this game.
 
I've left this alone until I can conduct my research. I haven't ignored this thread or my research on AV. With Persephone, I plan to continue my research and I will post any findings.
 
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Reality said:
I wonder why all of the AV drops stats are in relation to the number 6, or number 8
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Actually all but one (sash) are related to the number 8 even the road has 8 charges. Nice catch.
 
Has AV been beaten yet? I was looking it up online and can't see anywhere if it has or has not however I did find this piece of information (which I don't know if it is valid)

"AV is apparently very weak to melee, and whenever he pops 1 of his 2 hours you have to have an alliance member immediately use theirs (so if he manafonts have a BLM do so right away) and it will cancel it out// prevent him from using it again. After his HP has dropped to around 70% he's supposed to stop spamming Meteor."
 
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