This is Fucked up, Cops should get sued and go to Jail

[Raesvelg]

Excuse me, what?

Here's what.

I want you to go resist arrest. I mean REALLY resist arrest. The police officer in question will be forced to use every ounce of strength and a variety of nasty tricks to get you cuffed and removed into custody.

You will get hurt.

There's a pretty good chance those injuries could be significant.

Tasers, on the other hand, have a lower incidence of serious injuries than, say, chokeholds and submission holds, if for no other reason than the average idiot that resists arrest doesn't understand that continued struggling is going to get you damaged. Not pain, pain is temporary. Dislocated joints, broken bones, torn ligaments and muscles, the kind of injuries that stick with you for long periods of time.

Or, alternately, you could be bigger, stronger, and meaner than the arresting officer, and HE'S the poor bastard that will wind up getting hurt. Except that he has a taser, and that levels the playing field somewhat.

And yes, the right amperage will kill you. So what? Tasers are well below that. Yes, tasers might affect specific individuals with particular conditions. And you might try a hold on some poor bastard with a fragile ribcage and puncture his heart, or some similarly unusual event.

 

[Darkdante]

Excuse me, what?
I don't think it's necessary to need to have been subjected to these things. A dislocated shoulder may hurt like a bitch, but the slightest amount of electricity in the wrong spot will kill the strongest of men dead where he stands. Just because the taser is able to subdue someone relatively safely does not mean it is not a dangerous, potentially deadly weapon.

Its use was not necessary, nor was it warranted. Yes, police have the power to do what is necessary to uphold the law. This was not, and it rarely is, considering all the use tasers get.

It's also extremely significant if these were not full-fledged police officers. This raises even more questions to be honest.

I agree 100%. They should have mistakenly broke his fucking shoulder and Rodney Kinged his monkey ass.

How else do you teach these fucking morons not to resist arrest?

I don't believe in those pussy assed tasers myself, I believe a good hard beat-down does criminals good, but they do choose to use them nowdays to appease the pussy assed community that we've become, unfortunately.

 

[Tristam Green]

I agree 100%. They should have mistakenly broke his fucking shoulder and Rodney Kinged his monkey ass.

How else do you teach these fucking morons not to resist arrest?

I don't believe in those pussy assed tasers myself, I believe a good hard beat-down does criminals good, but they do choose to use them nowdays to appease the pussy assed community that we've become, unfortunately.

Don't twist words around on people again.

Rodney Kinged his monkey ass.

Although I can recognize your use of sarcasm, wouldn't you think that this statement is in bad taste nonetheless after the lengthy thread(s) concerning racism?

It almost sounds like you believe Garvin wants to make that kind of an argument.

 

[Darkdante]

Don't twist words around on people again.


Although I can recognize your use of sarcasm, wouldn't you think that this statement is in bad taste nonetheless after the lengthy thread(s) concerning racism?

It almost sounds like you believe Garvin wants to make that kind of an argument.

I bet you was itchin to do that. :wink:

Racism? Were the cops black? I dunno maybe I used it because his ass got gang beat down with billy clubs and felt by saying that one phrase you'd get the point. Bad taste? no, I think thread stalking is in bad taste.

Isn't he? What do you expect to happen if cops can't use tasers on people fighting with them? Throw them a beer and have a cold one? Just because you don't think the situation through doesn't excuse you from the outcome.

 

[Stouter]

So if they're campus police why is he getting a felony charge from campus police if they aren't actual police?

So they're using what he said to bring up the charge of disturbing the peace. How can they use that on him? After all he said it before his rights were read.

Campus police are much like private security guards. They aren't the ones charging him with a felony. Real cops don't charge people with felonies. Prosecutors look at the evidence presented to them and go before a judge to charge someone with a crime. All that cops do in the process is gather and present evidence to the prosecutors, and arrest people. Campus cops do the same thing, they just don't go through the same training as real cops, and have no power outside of campus (there are some exceptions, like the campus cops at the local satellite campus here can give speeding tickets on a back road adjacent to campus).

Wtf does reading him his rights have to do with anything? Sorry, you can't use the videotape of me murdering someone because I hadn't been read my rights at the time the video was made.

 

[Thelona]

So if they're campus police why is he getting a felony charge from campus police if they aren't actual police?

So they're using what he said to bring up the charge of disturbing the peace. How can they use that on him? After all he said it before his rights were read.

stouter beat me to this one. But really man, you sound like you have ZERO understanding of how the real world works, I think your mother should have beat you more growing up, your sounding like one of those 16 yo's thats never been truly disciplined in your life and still walk around with absolutely NO sense of personle responsibility.

your actions have consequences, go around acting like the douche bag in the video and resist arrest, theres a good chance your gonna get your ass beat. Sorry but thats how it works, if you don't like that you might wanna go to a country with no form of law enforcement, tho most of those are run by heavily armed drug lords and they'll shoot you just for being white.

grow up imo.

 

[Tristam Green]

I bet you was itchin to do that. :wink:

Whatever trips your trigger.

Racism? Were the cops black? I dunno maybe I used it because his ass got gang beat down with billy clubs and felt by saying that one phrase you'd get the point. Bad taste? no, I think thread stalking is in bad taste.

Isn't he? What do you expect to happen if cops can't use tasers on people fighting with them? Throw them a beer and have a cold one? Just because you don't think the situation through doesn't excuse you from the outcome.

Did I call you explicitly racist? No. I said the comment was in bad taste, which it was.

Thread stalking? I've been posting in this thread for far longer than you have, and regardless who would have said what you just did, my response would have been no less caustic.

So get off your high horse, stop throwing words into people's mouths, and get back on the actual flow of the argument.

 

[Ryujin]

The kid did not become aggresive until the cops grabbed him. He was exersing his right for Free speach.

i also have a heart condiontion so i know 1st hand if i get punched in the ribs or tasered i will DIE.

Thease rent a cops ^^^ had no right to taser him as much as they did. They have huge egos and they needed to surpress it..

Mark my words the cops will get sued, and so will the organizers. Its a cops word against a video that is everywhere.

 

[Thelona]

The kid did not become aggresive until the cops grabbed him.

and that makes a difference because? it doesn't matter whether or not YOU think the cops are justified in grabbing you or asking you to leave the premises, you turn aggressive and the cops are well within their rights to lay your ass out by whatever non-lethal means necessary.

and it has nothing to do with freedom of speech. If your in a collage auditorium and the police ask you to leave the premises you should LEAVE THE PREMISES! theres nothing in the constitution that give you the right to disobey that kind of request.

what part of this are you people not getting?

Edit:: and as to your heart condition, i suggest you keep that in mind when you deal with police officers and not give them a reason to tazer you. not that hard really. You should watch that "How to not get your ass kicked by police" video i posted earlier, if the guy that got tazerd had simply followed the "Use common sense" "Obey the law" and the "Shut the fuck up!" steps he wouldn't have gotten tazerd.

 

[Trippyhippy]

He should be even more grateful it wasn't Hilary. We would be reading about his suicide in the woods this weekend.

That is the most rediculous post in this thread.

 

[Lukas]

Law enforcement does not function like that (or at least it doesn't here). It isn't a fucking power trip - respect my authority or I'll tazer you as I please. Police are supposed to contain situations with restraint and if they do exercise excessive force, then their actions are indeed questionable. Why do you think the officers were suspended?

 

[Tristam Green]

Law enforcement does not function like that (or at least it doesn't here). It isn't a fucking power trip - respect my authority or I'll tazer you as I please. Security Guards are supposed to contain situations with restraint and if they do exercise excessive force, then their actions are indeed questionable. Why do you think the security guards were suspended?

Fixed for accuracy, they weren't cops.

iluEliott

 

[Lukas]

Fixed for accuracy, they weren't cops.

iluEliott

How dare you, TAZER THE RACCOON!

 

[Lecreuset]

If you think "Rodney Kinged him" is a bad expression, you should never play Halo with me.

 

[Tristam Green]

How dare you, TAZER THE RACCOON!

Fuck with the Raccoon, you can electrify but you know he's supreme!
Oh, don't you see what I mean...




/holydiver'd

 

[Lecreuset]

Fuck with the Raccoon, you can electrify but you know he's supreme!
Oh, don't you see what I mean...




/holydiver'd

Go Ronnie James Dio somewhere else.

 

[Tristam Green]

Go Ronnie James Dio somewhere else.

Dio kicks ass, you know it.



But we're getting off-base here.

Back to the discussion at hand!!!

 

[Lecreuset]

Dio kicks ass, you know it.



But we're getting off-base here.

Back to the discussion at hand!!!

Also I said I wouldn't be back here really, but I saw that Rodney King thing.

Had to come back.

Between cries of "Boom Headshot!" "Rodney Kinged Your Ass Bitch!" and other battlecries of mine at my system link parties, my presence could no longer be denied.

Since it was self-imposed and I'm not talking on topic of the OP, I figure it was ok. >_>;

 

[Lukas]

http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-au/v.htm?g=7f3deb03-bd8d-4154-9599-4c0a2ea5865f&f=imbot_en-au&fg=copy

 

[Sirelrohir]

That is the most rediculous post in this thread.

debatable.

Suppression of free speach is an act of facism. Tazoring some kid speaking with a loud voice, as to be heard should not be tolerated. However, people are so afraid today that they are willing to give up on common sense and their freedoms so they can feel 'safe'. Its utterly disgusting.

Edit: I think cops should taze those bible thumpers that stand on street corners. They disturb my peace while 'threatening' me by telling me I'm going to hell. They pry into my personal life and ask questions that are none of their business. Oh and they might have bombs to use on abortion clinics (just like this kid might have had a gun).