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I'm not going to try something a little different here, because flaming isn't resolving this issue. If a mod or admin sees this and wishes to put it on the flameboard, they are more than welcome to. However, I won't be doing any flaming or insulting. I simply want this finished and resolved. No one takes flames seriously, and this needs to be taken seriously.
As many know by now, Glade of the Quetza server was suspended for using a fleeing tool which allows near if not full flee speed on a character for as long as the program runs. Soon after returning to the game after his 3 day suspention, his L75 account was deleted for using warp tools with everything in it or associated with it.
Since the beginning of 2006, use of this fleetool has exploded. Contrary to what you may have heard, this tool allows for great gain within the game. It is not a convenience tool. It allows the perpetual and safe kiting of any high-level mob in the game. The player can stay ahead of raptor classes. They can kite kindreds without gravity. They can kite previously unkitable mobs. They can stall kills to regroup indefinitely with no danger. When used in Xarcabard to handle kindreds, it can basically farm the zone for you. When used at Kirin it can all but eliminate kiter danger. No one has to gravity. No one has to heal. The fleetool is a problem.
I have personally turned in three players for use of fleetooling. I have done so without being in the zone. I have done so without witnessing the abuse. I simply knew it was going on. The first, which many know, was Kireek. He was using fleetool to kite kindreds for his dynamis team, which is clearly for-gain cheating. GM melfus suspended kireek for 3 days just as glade was suspended. If he is caught cheating again his account will be deleted. The ensuing flame topic(s) were meant primarily to make it resoundingly clear that such a tool is not to be tolerated, and that this intolerance will be enforced.
Unfortunately the flame topics failed to stop the cheating. A short time ago I reported two more players, Silversurfer and Algarius, for using the same fleetool after hearing from a passing shell that a white mage was kiting kirin. I was leveling in Garlaige at the time, called it in remotely because I had told the offenders that I would and they seemed to agree that I should make good on my word. I made good on my word.
The GM suspended both Algarius and Silversurfer.
I cannot stress enough how much this needs to be resolved. First, because that makes three people in the same shell. Second, remote reporting has a BLIND success rate of detection of 75% thus far. No remote, blind report has NOT yielded a suspension. Third, GM fervor in investigation is INCREASED in zones which are not public, making no zone safe to cheat in. Fourth, the GMs even check players who are not named in the report. Finally, I feel that flames are only encouraging people to stick to their guns about this, when clearly that will lead to account terminations.
I would like an open, honest discussion about the use of these cheating tools. It must stop, or this will continue just as I had promised in the flame topics. Whether people want to admit it or not, this affects us all when one group uses illegal means to aid themselves. Windower is convenience. This is cheating.
As you can see from the picture, this is a serious matter, and it isn't idle flaming and threatening. While this thread has a 90% chance of turning into such, it won't be done by me. The involved parties know my position on this matter by now, and what I will continue to do if the cheating continues. Hopefully they will take this second attempt at resolving this issue more seriously than they did the first.
Thanks. Think about it.
As many know by now, Glade of the Quetza server was suspended for using a fleeing tool which allows near if not full flee speed on a character for as long as the program runs. Soon after returning to the game after his 3 day suspention, his L75 account was deleted for using warp tools with everything in it or associated with it.
Since the beginning of 2006, use of this fleetool has exploded. Contrary to what you may have heard, this tool allows for great gain within the game. It is not a convenience tool. It allows the perpetual and safe kiting of any high-level mob in the game. The player can stay ahead of raptor classes. They can kite kindreds without gravity. They can kite previously unkitable mobs. They can stall kills to regroup indefinitely with no danger. When used in Xarcabard to handle kindreds, it can basically farm the zone for you. When used at Kirin it can all but eliminate kiter danger. No one has to gravity. No one has to heal. The fleetool is a problem.
I have personally turned in three players for use of fleetooling. I have done so without being in the zone. I have done so without witnessing the abuse. I simply knew it was going on. The first, which many know, was Kireek. He was using fleetool to kite kindreds for his dynamis team, which is clearly for-gain cheating. GM melfus suspended kireek for 3 days just as glade was suspended. If he is caught cheating again his account will be deleted. The ensuing flame topic(s) were meant primarily to make it resoundingly clear that such a tool is not to be tolerated, and that this intolerance will be enforced.
Unfortunately the flame topics failed to stop the cheating. A short time ago I reported two more players, Silversurfer and Algarius, for using the same fleetool after hearing from a passing shell that a white mage was kiting kirin. I was leveling in Garlaige at the time, called it in remotely because I had told the offenders that I would and they seemed to agree that I should make good on my word. I made good on my word.
The GM suspended both Algarius and Silversurfer.
I cannot stress enough how much this needs to be resolved. First, because that makes three people in the same shell. Second, remote reporting has a BLIND success rate of detection of 75% thus far. No remote, blind report has NOT yielded a suspension. Third, GM fervor in investigation is INCREASED in zones which are not public, making no zone safe to cheat in. Fourth, the GMs even check players who are not named in the report. Finally, I feel that flames are only encouraging people to stick to their guns about this, when clearly that will lead to account terminations.
I would like an open, honest discussion about the use of these cheating tools. It must stop, or this will continue just as I had promised in the flame topics. Whether people want to admit it or not, this affects us all when one group uses illegal means to aid themselves. Windower is convenience. This is cheating.
As you can see from the picture, this is a serious matter, and it isn't idle flaming and threatening. While this thread has a 90% chance of turning into such, it won't be done by me. The involved parties know my position on this matter by now, and what I will continue to do if the cheating continues. Hopefully they will take this second attempt at resolving this issue more seriously than they did the first.
Thanks. Think about it.
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