Threadcrapping

Firebrand

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This is a practice that's becoming more prevalent, and it's starting to drive people away from both QCDN and the game. It's basically a practice that some people seem to be very fond and/or adept at engaging in, whereby they wind up taking someone else's good times or helpful suggestions and turning them into a nasty bunch of sh*t. Some of them may actually have been well-intentioned in their actions (although I doubt it), but if so, the people doing it really have not had a clue as to the effect their words might have.

Something we all have to remember is that players come in all shapes and sizes insofar as game experience, abilities as players, abilities to work together, etc. And working and playing together is something the game fosters. It's one of the primary reasons I like the game.

What it also means, though, is that some people will be inexperienced. Some will be faster, or better, or better strategists, or better party-makers, etc. than others. But everyone is here to play it for fun and enjoyment.

So when people have something nice to share, a goal or a milestone met, or some advice, etc., and they do share it, please stop crapping all over their efforts.

I'll cite a couple of examples:

1. Recently, a number of people got an alliance together to fight Bahamut. All but about 2 had never done that fight before, but they won handily, using their 2-hours, and had only one death. And Bahamut is a milestone - an alliance-sized battle that can only be done if everyone involved has actually finished their CoP missions. And after that win, when a couple of people showed up late, they all went back in and did it again, without 2-hours, and won again, even if not so handily.

So, one person wrote about it in "Good Times." And then someone responded challenging how good their record was. He had nothing positive to say, and focused on one issue he could question or be negative about. And the thread wound up getting hijacked into that discussion. And it turned a feel good report, about a very good time a number of people had had, into something negative and ugly. The person who did it is someone I'd respected to that point. No more.

2. Once, when I was in my early 70s as whm, and before the expansion, I got invited by some Japanese to join a TP burn party in KRT. You know the type, 4x mnk/war, whm/smn and rdm/blm. I was still very noobish, and wrote on QCDN about the awesome chain 14s we got! I was excited! And fortunately, no one started belittling that accomplishment - even though I now know about (and have experienced) much longer chains. I'm so happy I could have, and share, my feel good without it being dumped on.

3. Another girl has posted in the general thread about a NM that was up. In another thread, properly in the "Reality" section, she has had other threads wher she has talked about her day. In each case, the threadcrappers have invaded and turned posts that have been either helpful or posts that have harmed no one and that have been humorous to some of us, into crap. They've basically hurt a person who was well-meaning in her posts.

I have not named names, very deliberately. The people who engage in this kind of activity know who they are. To each of these people, I would ask you to take a pause and think about what you are doing, what it might indicate to others about you as a person, and whether, by your actions, you are going to attract and keep as friends the kind of people you actually might like to hang with.

I'd also like you to think about the consequences of your words. Do you like to make people feel bad? To turn their well-intentioned posting into an unpleasant experience? To diminish their enjoyment of the game and possibly to drive them away from the game? And how big a man (or woman) do you feel you are when you accomplish those things?

Finally, I would ask you to think about those other players, including noobs, you may encounter in the game every day, and think about the fact that they want to have a good time just like you and to learn to be better players. Sometimes helping people do those things, and helping them to celebrate their accomplishments, no matter how minor they may seem to you, will nevertheless help you feel pretty good about yourself and the game too. And those other people, especially the newcomers, are the lifeblood of this game.

All the best,
Fire
 
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There you are
 
Why didn't you post this in Miros' topic?
 
I think I just heard Neosquall's spirit being crushed.
 
I agree with Fire..it is kind of annoying, that posts that aren't ment to be flames..become flames and then it's just like ugh.

From the boards I used to go to before I came to QCDN, it's kinda like a 0 tolerence level..you crap in a thread..LOCKED! I really wasn't used to having a lot of threads derailed into something so stupid, if someone started the "crapping" (lol) they would've gotten like 1 warning to not do it again. Kinda strict yeah..but threads kept to the point.
 
This kind of change, here??? now???

Esto es QCDN, it will be easier to convince an Iraqi to stop suicide-bombing than to change comunity behavior here...
 
3. Another girl has posted in the general thread about a NM that was up. In another thread, properly in the "Reality" section, she has had other threads wher she has talked about her day. In each case, the threadcrappers have invaded and turned posts that have been either helpful or posts that have harmed no one and that have been humorous to some of us, into crap. They've basically hurt a person who was well-meaning in her posts.


I don't remember anyone crapping Kink's 'My Day' thread. However the 'lolomg a ram' thread certainly did deserve crapping on.
 
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Why would people leave the game over posts here?
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I guess a lot of this generation lacks a backbone.
 
i thought me ment by..the boards..unless this too is part of the game....>_>
 
hm well then..yeha why would people leave ffxi cause of a post on qcdn? :p kinda odd but w/e :crazy:
 
I understand the point on how it might offend people (threadcrapping), but I don't view it as a problem.

A topic is a conversation
A conversation doesn't just stay on one topic...it roams.
Without the "roaming" the conversation will die.

I know if I was the owmer of the site, I would do absolutly NOTHING to stop it, I would encourage it. As the site owner you want more traffic to visit site. More posts means more content, even better...its continually updated info...search engines luv that. More content means more chance your site will come up in a search engine return. That means more people at site, which also means more people clicking on google ads and more "content" being added for free. There are services out there that people pay decent cash to have the forums "populated". So in the end the site gets paid and gets free content and all it costed was you being irked about threadcrapping...
 
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Why would people leave the game over posts here?

I think because people come into the game and these boards thinking it’s about entertainment or enjoyment. The way some of the people are treated here and the game I can easily see why it would detour people from playing and posting. For some people, when you get bashed, it takes a part of the game away that was enjoyable and/or fun and/or safe. We all play for our own reasons, it’s not hard to see that some people would play for the friendships and get totally turned off by the shear aggression and hatred people post here.

I guess a lot of this generation lacks a backbone.

I wouldn’t confuse backbone with preference… not for everyone anyway. Why come to a place for friendships when it’s not friendly?
 
I understand the point on how it might offend people (threadcapping), but I don't view it as a problem.

A topic is a conversation
A conversation doesn't just stay on one topic...it roams.
Without the "roaming" the conversation will die.

There is a difference between a conversation roaming a little bit and a conversation being destroyed by tons of useless posts.

Roaming:

OP - I like Thundercats. I wish it was still on.
Poster 1 - Me too. Jaga ftw.
Poster 2 - Panthro = awesome, remember that time (blah blah blah)
Poster 3 - You know what else was cool? Voltron.
Poster 2 - Hell yeah, I frickin loved Voltron.

Conversation roamed, but was still about the same general thing: The OPs love for old cartoons that were totally awesome.

Threadcrapping:

OP - Legos are cool. Once I built a boat.
Poster 1 - Oh man! I love legos!
Poster 2-7 - Sweet, legos, spaceship, castle, etc...
Threadcrapper 1 - z0mg I'm awesome!
Threadcrapper 2 - ::picture of kitten in hilarious situation::
Shyrra - look at me! I'm doing something crazy! (lolShyrra)
Threadcrapper 4-80 - PS3 sucks! 360 sux!

Threadcrappers bring nothing to the table.
 
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