TY Zylia; for w/o you, my night would of sucked

[Botosai]

Ok, so as most of you know me as whm isa...No one, notta one person has had 1 bad thing to say about me...if so maybe that i joke a lil too much, but im lol funny and a blast to pt with... OK so here i am as my smn (my next main) at a pt @ gustav tunnel. So, Zylia is leader, asked me to pt, sure...wife was comin home real soon as if some of you know, my wife has ranged attack on my ffxi disc twice before. >.> no joke... anyways finally im done doin what im doing and i get back...

So the whole arguement starts up with some sam, idk what their name was mort somethin...anyways says Look your always boastin about your damn mp and your not curing, whm has 0 mp and you always have 600+ (max is 750ish) then zylia (whm) starts in you need to cure dammit, im like ok i will jeez, the sams like now your curing cuz whm is /healing dammit, got it? im like i know shit im frikkin curing ok dammit i also reference that i know that im 75 whm, zylia says i got 2x 75 job, now what? (OBVIOUSLY YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY WHM THEN! frikkin kept throwing away mp (ever hear of regen either?) I say why are we standing around, whm can /heal and ill cure. I sorta had company and wife was home and i can admit my head wasnt in the game. So after that nothing is said and im focusing straight on the game, curing alot, only summoning for aeriel armor and whm has lots of mp and i do too. Ssoulja leaves and zylia says he had to go. Ok so all is good we were killin as fast as we could cuz another pt had the front camp, so sorta long pulls minus the bats that pop.

Then all of a sudden the blm D2s me and ssoulja was back /goodbyeing me i /t zylia wtf is up with you, says your job is not benificial and i got a bard and your attitude was bad. Im like to do somethin like that,to set up this whole plan to D2 me w/o sayin anything is a noobish thing i wouldnt expect from a x2 75 job person idc who the fuck they are. in the end, fuck you zylia, from what i hear from friends including people from the other pt infront of us, you are a jack ass elitist and doesnt play that well... from your quote unquote whm skillz, i can see that. So i soloed my 30 exp and hit 40 SMN (889 MP <--- im such an mp whore im really sorry ; and to the other sam and nin (who were cool as hell) this isnt directed towards you. Ive never-wever had any problems with anyone and vice versa until now...i feel bad it happened. I got pwnt by zylia or as a dear friend said punted... now created the hybrid word PUWNT... fun night love drama, love you guys

At least you got a D2 and didn't have to walk back <.<;. And ya like others said you must've really been doing bad for them to do that. You shouldn't need to be told to back up heal.

 

[Shady]

To be honest SMN and WHM together in a party is a bad combination, and when you're the expendable job of a bad combination watch out > like a THF with no trick buddy or a PLD when there's a NIN in the party already.

I hear where you're goin with this (and totally agree) BUT how often can you really pick and choose exactly what jobs you want in the party? Last night I had to pick up <me: 49 rdm>, bard, pld, nin, samurai, and summoner. Sounds awful right? Well... we got a good 2k xp in like an hour but whatever - we all knew it was either that or nothing so wtf we xp'd knowing full well it was gonna be hard and sucky only because there was nothing else out there lfp. Happens.. moral of the story you take the good with the bad in this game, otherwise your in for an unpleasant surprise

Shady

 

[Firestreak]

Yeah bad exp is better than no exp sometimes. (At least if you're one of the people who are going to get no EXP otherwise, or if you're not spending too much gil cause of your job). I know when I'm the party leader and I have to settle on what's available then always within 20 mins I /sea all inv for the hell of it and see the job I wanted is seeking now. That's when I have to stop myself from watching the job I settled for closely and eyeballing him for reasons to kick him. It' just wouldn't be fair to them - not that being a low demand job means they couldn't have performance so poor I'd kick them... but just as a rule I won't kick someone unless I'd kick them no matter what job they were.

 

[RaidrX]

I'm not gonna comment on this individual incident but i will say D2ing someone from a pt is a bitch move. If they suck, atleast tell them, then tell them why they suck, and then offer them a D2. Then you get rid of them and they understand why. If you had followed that course of action in this paticular situation this post wouldn't have happened. Since i wasn't there though im not gonna say who was right/wrong but i still think D2ing someone is pretty shitty regardless of what they did, atleast without telling them.

 

[dbuman]

Here's why some people are blind...

SMN is not a non-essential job when a whm is in the pt for a few reasons, and let me explain.(this is if the smn has all the useful smns im about to list)

Fenrir - nuff said... All status perameters boosted, acc and eva boost

Carby - defense boost and random stat boost

Titan - AOE stoneskin

Leviathan - Gravity and spring water

Ramuh - enthunder

Garuda - AOE 3 shadow blink

Shiva - ice spikes

This doesnt mention the awesome DD from each summon either, which ifrit is pretty good at too. When you look at all these buffs, it makes you wonder why people think smn is obsolete. If theres a smn seeking, and im melee, and a brd pops up about 20 min after we have the smn... itd be fckin rude to get the brd regardless unless the smn actually refused to try to do their job. Whm who burns mp in 1 fight... either something is wrong with the whm or the nin just all-out sucks ass. Smn shouldnt have to even touch cure macros if a whm is avail, especially if the whm uses a smn sub.

 

[Isakazu]

ok ok now

Wow, after the 2nd page i just stopped. Please check, I said I admitted I was not doing my job well, check the original post. I had people here and I wasnt paying 100% to the game, which I would hate if someone did that to me in my pt. I also appologized ingame and will again, about the the beginning of the PT when I was invited. I was rushing to get some things done, and I didnt think I would get an invite that fast, and my wife is like the new notorious monster that likes the DC the net, my bad... >.>

Anyhow, I had full mp and I said I admitted it, while the WHM had no mp. They stated the problem with a lil harshness and I followed back with alil more harshness than I guess I should of. After the argueing...I was curing nonstop and doing Aerial Armor. Whm and I had lots of mp, and no one had yellow HP. All I am saying is if you planned on doing this, even after the problem was brought to the table and it was solved and taken care of, why wouldn't you just tell me. I didn't want this to be a flame, I'm just talking about this, but I know it would of ended up here anyway. ; ;

The funny thing was that I had to explain to my replacement that I was D2ed He rofled... so to end this...I appologized about sucking in the beginning...but after all of it was cool and exp was flowing, the D2 was a major surprise. I don't hate anyone yet and don't wanna change that anytime soon. :emote_grouphug:

But I just wanna add, Garvin you Emo ninja how you been. Missed ya man..you can try to make me hate you but it makes me wanna /friend you more man.

 

[dbuman]

lol my post wasnt a flame, its to tell those who underestimate summoner's usefulness that they're stupid... ok maybe its a flame, but not towards you lol

 

[meeze]

Zylia used to be just about the worst thf in the game. I xp'd with him at lv 69ish in bibiki bay, didn't know how to split sata, insisted on 1st voke even though I was getting raped as drk/war.

When it came to WS she would sata ws the PLD rather than taws and sa behind the mob.

before you start assasinating others abilities, remember how shitty you used to be.

 

[Raesylil]

Personal opinion though.
If you can not pay attention to the party then it would be better not to be in one. You would be a liability to the party and wuld be in no position to say anything if you were treated in such a way.

Although, them D2-ing you without saying anything is not right.

 

[Mishaela]

Here's why some people are blind...

SMN is not a non-essential job when a whm is in the pt for a few reasons, and let me explain.(this is if the smn has all the useful smns im about to list)

Fenrir - nuff said... All status perameters boosted, acc and eva boost

Carby - defense boost and random stat boost

Titan - AOE stoneskin

Leviathan - Gravity and spring water

Ramuh - enthunder

Garuda - AOE 3 shadow blink

Shiva - ice spikes

This doesnt mention the awesome DD from each summon either, which ifrit is pretty good at too.

Fenrir is good. Glittering Ruby is OK and can even stack with Ecliptic Growl, but more times than not boosts useless stats on jobs, making it a wasted BP. Rolling Thunder is crap post-CN. Aerial Armor is decent if the mob does physical AOEs or the PLD needs a little help. Ice Spikes is crap even post-patch because the mob should be para'd anyways, and it taking a 3-damage return isn't worth the MP it costs.

Regarding SMN DD, it's OK with Tail Whip and Double Punch for a short time. It quickly becomes crap until you get Double Slap, which also for the most part becomes crap quickly and has a high fail rate to begin with. Even post-70, SMN makes for a decent DD...not great, decent. Most impressive thing we have currently would hafto be Crimson Howl -> Flaming Crush, if all three hits somehow land.

However. If you'd read the flame at all you'd know that's not even what people complained about. Seemingly the only thing OP did in that party was BP, which means he was useless to the party for the duration of his BP timer cooloff (which in his case is probably very close if not the full 1 minute). Any remotely decent SMN knows to backup/main heal while waiting on BP timer, otherwise they are very literally leeching near the entire fight, every fight.

 

[dbuman]

Fenrir is good. Glittering Ruby is OK and can even stack with Ecliptic Growl, but more times than not boosts useless stats on jobs, making it a wasted BP. Rolling Thunder is crap post-CN. Aerial Armor is decent if the mob does physical AOEs or the PLD needs a little help. Ice Spikes is crap even post-patch because the mob should be para'd anyways, and it taking a 3-damage return isn't worth the MP it costs.

Regarding SMN DD, it's OK with Tail Whip and Double Punch for a short time. It quickly becomes crap until you get Double Slap, which also for the most part becomes crap quickly and has a high fail rate to begin with. Even post-70, SMN makes for a decent DD...not great, decent. Most impressive thing we have currently would hafto be Crimson Howl -> Flaming Crush, if all three hits somehow land.

However. If you'd read the flame at all you'd know that's not even what people complained about. Seemingly the only thing OP did in that party was BP, which means he was useless to the party for the duration of his BP timer cooloff (which in his case is probably very close if not the full 1 minute). Any remotely decent SMN knows to backup/main heal while waiting on BP timer, otherwise they are very literally leeching near the entire fight, every fight.

I read the flame, and all of the flames on the person who posted against the thread starter. You just follow me all over this forum to start crap anyway lol. But ill justify why i put that post up:

The people replying on this thread mostly said a smn is useless when a whm is on, and zylia, (if you read correctly) got a brd just to kick the smn. and plus zylia said "we dont need you" blah blah, etc. he pretty much justified my post all there, on top of the repliers.

 

[Kinkkerbelle]

Oops sorry I didn't know!

That cunt Zylia won't have sex with me no matter how much I beg her or tell her how cool it is to be a with a girl! The whore turned me down even after I showed her I can tie THREE knots in the same cherry stem with my tongue!

She also wears an elemental beret INSTEAD of a pointy hat. What kind of noobish piece of shit BLM doesn't wear the pointy hat I ask you?

I was in the PT and I can assure you the OP is, in fact, full of shit.

The real question is: can we make it to 10 pages with the same 3 main points...? Need more Zylia haters I think

 

[Zylia]

Zylia used to be just about the worst thf in the game. I xp'd with him at lv 69ish in bibiki bay, didn't know how to split sata, insisted on 1st voke even though I was getting raped as drk/war.

When it came to WS she would sata ws the PLD rather than taws and sa behind the mob.

before you start assasinating others abilities, remember how shitty you used to be.

lol sure, whatever you say. If you would've said I had less than great gear, I'd go with that on ya, didn't have the best gear back then, but I had fun with it. As for my ability, I know this is a pathetic attempt to get my attention. I don't need a conformation from you of all people to detail my ability in the game, thanks. My linkshells can testify to you my ability. Other than that you're opinion of it pretty much means jack. But then again most of your opinions are senseless bullshit talking anyway.

Female btw =) thanks ^^

P.S. /touch Kinkkerbelle XD

 

[meeze]

lol sure, whatever you say. If you would've said I had less than great gear, I'd go with that on ya, didn't have the best gear back then, but I had fun with it. As for my ability, I know this is a pathetic attempt to get my attention. I don't need a conformation from you of all people to detail my ability in the game, thanks. My linkshells can testify to you my ability. Other than that you're opinion of it pretty much means jack. But then again most of your opinions are senseless bullshit talking anyway.

Female btw =) thanks ^^

P.S. /touch Kinkkerbelle XD

I'm sure your gear was gimped, I wont argue there, but the fact that you didn't charge your sata during your pull or ever split sata will forever stay in memory as one of the worst experiences with a THF after assassin ever.

Me and the NIN, can't remember of top who it was, couldn't believe you had ever made it such a high level.

Your ability may have improved over the last 2years, but that doesn't cover up the fact that in that party you lowered the bar for THFs.

I like the "just ask my friends" defense, that one always does well.

 

[Excalibur]

I'm not reading more than the first page here (this flame kinda sucks, A for effort though) so excuse me if this exact same thing has been said already.

1. You shouldn't be partying, ESPECIALLY healing when your head is not all in the game, if you have company and your wife is an anti-ffxi nazi bitch then you probably should have logged off. I'm guessing that you were doing very shoddy work and that's why they gave you the boot. 2. Never exp'd with Zy, but I used to do dynamis with her every week for months and she's always on top of shit. So I'm going to assume that you were in the wrong for those two reasons.

EDIT: Don't let her pull o.o;;

 

[Zylia]

Lol ok Mr. Meeze. Better to just let you ramble on I suppose, considering you'll just continue doing it anyways.

Directly to Isakazu: I'm sorry the way things played out yesterday and looking back on it I overreacted a bit. I'm sure both of us had some things we could've done differently.

Thread resolved, ya'll can go home now.

 

[meeze]

Lol ok Mr. Meeze. Better to just let you ramble on I suppose, considering you'll just continue doing it anyways.

Directly to Isakazu: I'm sorry the way things played out yesterday and looking back on it I overreacted a bit. I'm sure both of us had some things we could've done differently.

Thread resolved, ya'll can go home now.

You don't have to be in denial about being a bad thf now that you've learned your job and are good. Heck, when I first went to the dunes I had no idea what a puller or tank was!

 

[Kotsu]

I showed her I can tie THREE knots in the same cherry stem with my tongue!

Fuck this whole shitty thread and the worthless posts. This is the one right here that makes all the difference. Hell yea baby! When we getting together Kink?

 

[Bedwarmer]

Fuck this whole shitty thread and the worthless posts. This is the one right here that makes all the difference. Hell yea baby! When we getting together Kink?

Woah woah woah, get in line fuck-face.

 

[Firestreak]

Here's why some people are blind...

SMN is not a non-essential job when a whm is in the pt for a few reasons, and let me explain.(this is if the smn has all the useful smns im about to list)

Fenrir - nuff said... All status perameters boosted, acc and eva boost

Carby - defense boost and random stat boost

Titan - AOE stoneskin

Leviathan - Gravity and spring water

Ramuh - enthunder

Garuda - AOE 3 shadow blink

Shiva - ice spikes

This doesnt mention the awesome DD from each summon either, which ifrit is pretty good at too. When you look at all these buffs, it makes you wonder why people think smn is obsolete. If theres a smn seeking, and im melee, and a brd pops up about 20 min after we have the smn... itd be fckin rude to get the brd regardless unless the smn actually refused to try to do their job. Whm who burns mp in 1 fight... either something is wrong with the whm or the nin just all-out sucks ass. Smn shouldnt have to even touch cure macros if a whm is avail, especially if the whm uses a smn sub.

Yeah doesn't really justify a party slot to be honest. You can think about what you're capable of doing as a SMN to help the party and we can all agree you're not useless, but at that level they certainly can't out DD anyone that could be in the spot as a DD - and they can't keep the chain going better than a job with ballad or refresh. So while it's true they can do SOMETHING while a WHM is already in the party, a PLD can also do something while a NIN is in the party - throw down subpar damage and try to prolong the chain a bit. Not very convincing compared to having a BRD in the slot.