UFO kidnap an Photographer who took a pic of "UFO" ship

Anttaru said:
Is it because you feel you'd never be mentally prepared to encounter one in real life, especially if you were alone ?

Or is it the way people treat you when you tell them about it ?
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Mainly because it questioned my faith? XD Kinda wouldn't know what I would do if I actually encountered one. I'd probably just ignore it if I saw one, and pretend I didn't see it lol. I try to keep an open mind, and as they say, seeing is believing. I can also claim to that video's authenticity because I KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO took the vid because they're related to my neighbors (Who we've known for 15 years) and friends of my family. I believe that everything is connected somehow...and one day we'll know the answer. I just know it's not going to be pretty.

As for the 2nd reason, a lot of people here have also started to believe in them. I also met a new friend on here who experienced something similar, but in her case she saw something odd flying over her head. She told me she didn't want to tell anyone because she knew no one would take her seriously, but I did after mentioning what I saw.
 
I used to say things like " bahaha bogus, it's a joke, they're crazy" only because I was afraid to accept they were real and I'm seeing that a lot on these boards. Let people believe what they want to believe...it's kinda hard not to though with all this info about them.

Denying all the evidence is as if YOU CHOOSE not to believe....I dunno...how can you people do that? lol...oh well eh?
 
o__o No response, then again who wants to put up with this when they have bigger probs lol
 
There are videos of Bigfoot that haven't been scientifically disproven yet. There are videos of Loch Ness Monster, too. There are lots of videos of UFOs. I'd love for all of these things to be real. I don't think the people who recorded these videos in good faith are crazy. Some of the videos aren't scams. They are exactly what they are. What they are is the question. To be perfectly honest, unless mainstream science pronounces something as being true, I won't take the existance of anything for granted. Is it Bigfoot, or a bear out of focus in a strange position? Is that the Loch Ness Monster, or an optical illusion of the light playing off the rocks and surface of the water? Is that an UFO, or some mundane airplane of some sort, or maybe some weird light effect? There are lots of skeptical possibilities for any strange phenomenon. I'd be overjoyed if one of the fantastic creatures of popular legend were proven to exist. I just don't think I'm fortunate enough to see it happen. In all honesty, I think we'd be more likely to find a living dinosaur in an unexplored jungle than to make any real contact with an alien race. I also think, if we do make such contact, it'd probably be in the form of intercepted communication waves of some sort, radio, etc, and not in the form of a fleet of saucers and a green man saying "Greetings, Earthlings. We are Zandor. We come in peace."
 
Valcristiel said:
I used to say things like " bahaha bogus, it's a joke, they're crazy" only because I was afraid to accept they were real and I'm seeing that a lot on these boards. Let people believe what they want to believe...it's kinda hard not to though with all this info about them.

Denying all the evidence is as if YOU CHOOSE not to believe....I dunno...how can you people do that? lol...oh well eh?
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I'm sure you know talking about what you've seen, can wreck your reputation. In QCDN it can damage how you interact with some of the others in your FFXI. Being as it is, I'm positive there are people who don't appreciate you, and there are others who do.

People hear about things they don't believe in, and keep their distance from it for many reasons. One reason in particular is because they don't want to look like a freak.

There were many videos about that UFO conference i posted, but i hand picked that CNN report because that woman in the news room is a disgrace of a woman that is capable of being open minded, but isn't open minded, by choice she'd rather ridicule and figure anyone who claims to have so much as experienced a sighting, is a freak. Which is sad. People like that told Columbus he would fall off the edge of the earth. And people like that told the Wright Brothers they will never fly. It's certain the masses could not have known that it was possible to make machines that can fly.

To laugh and ridicule what others feel, has proven time and time again to lead a great deal of us towards falsehoods with such foolish ignorance. "Why mock the millions, and even large towns who claim to have seen these things with their own eyes, even in the thousands ? And how did ancient civilizations obtain so much information about the solar system ?" Those are the questions people need to ask themselves. To deny the most obvious possibility without a logical answer to the evidence, is non conclusive to what is, and what is not.

Without an answer, arguing about it without a clue to someone who raises their awareness towards the matter, is considerably meaningless debate.
 
Pompidou said:
There are videos of Bigfoot that haven't been scientifically disproven yet. There are videos of Loch Ness Monster, too. There are lots of videos of UFOs. I'd love for all of these things to be real. I don't think the people who recorded these videos in good faith are crazy. Some of the videos aren't scams. They are exactly what they are. What they are is the question. To be perfectly honest, unless mainstream science pronounces something as being true, I won't take the existance of anything for granted.
Is it Bigfoot, or a bear out of focus in a strange position? Is that the Loch Ness Monster, or an optical illusion of the light playing off the rocks and surface of the water? Is that an UFO, or some mundane airplane of some sort, or maybe some weird light effect? There are lots of skeptical possibilities for any strange phenomenon. I'd be overjoyed if one of the fantastic creatures of popular legend were proven to exist. I just don't think I'm fortunate enough to see it happen. In all honesty, I think we'd be more likely to find a living dinosaur in an unexplored jungle than to make any real contact with an alien race.
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Can't really say i speculate Big Foot and Loch Ness, but it would be nice if we can get to the bottom of those phenomenons. Those two don't seem to leave behind much evinced we can work with.

Pompidou said:
I also think, if we do make such contact, it'd probably be in the form of intercepted communication waves of some sort, radio, etc, and not in the form of a fleet of saucers and a green man saying "Greetings, Earthlings. We are Zandor. We come in peace."
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If some contactee data is correct. Then there is a fleet of alien craft with the intent of saying to us "greetings, we come in peace." It's very biblical stuff, and it's very difficult to determine if this phase is really staged.

Not to be taken from me or anything. This is the type of things I gather and wish to confirm.

This fleet is the Ashtar Command. And when can we expect to see this Ashtar Command considering they exist ? The answer to that is, when we fall victim to a world wide catastrophic event.

First. The Spiritual Leader of the Ashtar Command is said to be Prince Sananda Immanuel. (Jesus Christ). Secondly the Ashtar Command is said to be comprised of several hundreds of thousands of spacecraft, and has many species from civilizations through out the universe.

Mainly the Ashtar Commands main race is of "The Great White Brotherhood". (They are tall white skinned, white hair, blue eyes. There are stories of Hitler crossing paths with these guys.)

Next there is Lord Ashtar. Described as an Angel manifested in physical form, and i would imagine he is 2nd in command. One conspiracy theory site suggests that Lord Ashtar is Satan. Keeping that in mind makes it difficult to believe the Ashtar Command is here to assist us in a time of need. Long story short, Lord Ashtar is perceived as a spirit that carries out the needs of God. One description of him included how he has always been loyal to God. But why mention that ?

"And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. ... Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time" (Revelation 12:7-9,12).

Reading about Satan in the Bible suggests that Satan is a fallen Angel who was banished from the Kingdom of Heaven. On a side Note the Andromedians say the Reptoids were banished from their place of origin, and dumped into our universe. The Alfa Draconis system, or in a dimensional sense, Our Heavens. And what is this short time ? It's a time when the earth will undergo a great cleansing. Perhapses it's a matter of where our souls end up. Based on belief, we'll trust what we submit ourselves to making it legit. Ownage. The Bible is filled with riddles that are probably the truth, making it all legit if we fail to raise consciousness that assists us in selecting the path of our eternity.

The flag ship of all prayer in the Bible:

- Our Father (The creator. Ancient civilizations believed we were created by the Annunaki)

- Who art in Heaven (Space/Outer dimension)

- Hollowed Be thy Name ( Hollowed = Divine spirit. Some say Herald = Someone to indicate the arrival. In this case, Prince Sananda (Christ) Only Christ can be the Herald to indicate the revelation of the Bible. On a side note, it's fashionable to use Christs name in vein. Some say "JESUS H. CHRIST !" When things go wrong. This part of the prayer is pretty much the origin of that.)

- Thy Kingdom come ( Transportation is necessary in physical form. We're advanced enough to know horses and people with wings probably won't be entering the earth atmosphere from the hostile environment of outer space. So a fleet of crafts ?)

- Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven ( Following the earths cleansing, it's believed to evolve into 4th density. A more advanced evolution. Even our science community would agree this is as intended.)

- Give us this day, our daily bread. ( The day what will be done on earth. And energy everyday that surrounds it.)

- And forgive us our trespasses ( Again, Lyrian Andromedians suggest we are not originally from the earth. If that is true, then the earth was truly born in good health. We just make it sick.)

- As we forgive those who trespass against us. ( There is no enlightenment in resentment. Carry no negative energy to any others who invade us. )

- And lead us not into temptation. ( Would temptation have anything to do with the desire to not be enslaved or have interest in what seems more realistic ?)

- But deliver us from Evil ( Evil being what you believe is so, as the prayer comes out of the persons mouth, the intention followed by the faith is automatically true to itself. )

- Amen ( Meaning this is how it will be. On a side note, I'd say we do it to ourselves, that's just me.)


If or when you see a bunch of friendly E.T.'s pop up and say anything along the lines of "We can save you, come with us." Tell them your waiting for the next train. Part of our evolution revolves around our own independence, and they know that. In order to evolve into a more supreme being, we mustn't depend on another species to look after us. Or we can evolve into a being that requires babysitting, or some kind of shit that of which won't be free.

Basically what I'm saying is. Revelation is an invasion. Ashtar Command i do not trust. Not because there are sources that suggest Lord Ashtar is Satan, and Prince Sananda is not what we think he is. It's because the Ashtar Command's goals for us is to assist us in a great time of need. Which again, is twisted in terms of letting us evolve.
 
I knew we couldn't trust that Jesus fella. He was sent by aliens to soften us up for the invasion.
 
I've always like mythology, and started thinking for a while. Maybe too long? You all can be the judge. Whether Anttaru is right or wrong, it's at the very least, something to get you thinking, I say.

There are a lot of similarities between Biblical Genesis and Sumerian mythology. The Flood story spans a dozen separate cultures at least, and is almost certainly based in truth, though I figure the truth is that the Euphrates flooded severely once. You figure, when the known world is so small, even a local flood would seem world-wide. I think the cultural memory of the event never died, and was simply rewritten by successive generations. I think that Biblical Genesis was a direct product of the Babylonian enslavement of the Jews. The 10 Commandments aren't much more than a paraphrasing of Hammurabi's Code, after all, and the Flood myth is icing on the cake. I saw a program on the History Channel where scientists suspected that the cause of the flood myth was a proven flooding of the Black Sea.

My linkshell happenned to be discussing the end of the world a few weeks ago. Everything from 2012 to polar shifts came up. I had known about the Mayan world cycle and the speculated end of the world, because I took a lot of archaeology in college - it was a fun subset of courses along with philosophy for my history major. I could talk all day about this stuff. The Mayans didn't believe the world was going to end, as much as be reborn - it's just the end of their long calendar. I don't think even the Mayans knew what would happen at the end of a Long Calendar sequence, as they'd never experienced one.

In terms of the end of the world, we really are on borrowed time. Even if the Mayan end of the long calendar doesn't end the world, we're on schedule or overdue for a earth destroying class meteor/asteroid impact such as the one that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. Actually, the earth has had a rather cyclical series of mass extinctions. The permian extinction was even more catastrophic than the cretacious. Every day is a roll of the dice. One day, we might get snake-eyes.

As far as aliens influencing ancient civilization, it's certainly not an unpopular suggestion. People sometimes credit ET influence on the creation of the Egyptian pyramids. There are Mesoamerican heiroglyphs that portray saucer shapes and alien figures. The Nazca lines have their share of ET proponents as well, as it'd supposedly take an eye in the sky to orchestrate the whole process to look right when finished, and really, what stoneage culture would benefit from a picture that can only be seen from an aircraft? The former, that it'd take an airship to orchestrate has been disproven by modern demonstrations on probable techniques, but the reason for making them is still up for grabs.

EDIT: Here's a site with some photos and questionable conclusions of the native american alien connection. I'm not endorsing it as fact. The pictures are authentic, the conclusions are your own to draw. Still, who doesn't enjoy a good conspiracy theory to get the mind going.

http://www.netscientia.com/north_american_indians.html
 
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You know Antman, I don't believe a word you've said, but I really respect you for sticking to your beliefs. I myself have alot of..."unpopular opinions" and get quite a bit of shit for it here. I guess it's just nice to see someone else getting hammered on for their beliefs once in awhile.
 
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