Ungrateful shits...

whm with a club hmm maybe for AOE mp regen thing (forgot name sorry) and you will need to pick up alod of acc my war (+42 ACC +12.5% acc) got 200tp in 1 fight so unless you TP up on those millions what you should be /heal not fighting during that lol
 
Wow.. Sorry dude but, I trust Ish on this.. I've been in a lot of groups like this and its ridiculous....
Sorry to hear you had such bad luck Ish ._. I've yet to do a HTK run but wow... Kinda feels good that you went out of YOUR way to help them huh? -.-
 
ForteTeppo said:
So hold up, you were meleeing? -.- oh my god..
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Not and XP party...

And it was the only viable way to regain MP without resting. Since resting was hardly an option, and shouldn't have even been needed had one of the 3 refreshers gotten around to Refreshing her. As far as motives go for meleeing the mob, hers were pretty sound. The damage wouldn't be a bad thing, and using her WS to get her the MP she wasn't getting from other sources could only help.
 
Bigboy said:
Not and XP party...

And it was the only viable way to regain MP without resting. Since resting was hardly an option, and shouldn't have even been needed had one of the 3 refreshers gotten around to Refreshing her. As far as motives go for meleeing the mob, hers were pretty sound. The damage wouldn't be a bad thing, and using her WS to get her the MP she wasn't getting from other sources could only help.
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( /,\) so it's okay for a whm to melee Haka?
 
ForteTeppo said:
( /,\) so it's okay for a whm to melee Haka?
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in all ACC maybe only lv 75 lol with drk sub job maybe expect that NO!
 
ForteTeppo said:
( /,\) so it's okay for a whm to melee Haka?
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Most likely Meleeing an add, but I dunno.

The more important questing is... is it ok to have 3 refreshers not doing their job, and then blame the one not getting refresh for finding an alternate meathod of gaining MP?
 
Anothing thing I just realized... Why weren't the 2 RDM Silencing the adds?
 
If the rdm can't cast refresh, the stunners are slacking, and the whm's mp is being drained picking up the slack for everyone elses' incompetence, then meleeing for MP regaining WS seems like a good idea to me. Bad parties are when it's most necessary to think outside the box.
 
Bigboy said:
Most likely Meleeing an add, but I dunno.

The more important questing is... is it ok to have 3 refreshers not doing their job, and then blame the one not getting refresh for finding an alternate meathod of gaining MP?
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- .- i'm not going to speak anymore on this matter after this post. And no, it's not okay for any job not to be doing what they are suppose to be doin. In anycase, I'm sorry ish for that crappy time. I wish you only the best~
 
Pretty much what Bigboy said....
And in case you guys overlooked my first post...the one time I told the group to pick up on healing and crap and hit /heal, one of the tanks went full to dead in literally under 15 seconds. If you wanna call that a coincidence, fine, whatever floats your boat.

Yes, I meleed. Kindof a stupid idea but if I rested, crap would happen, that's -very- obvious. Just to clarify, however, I meleed Million Eyes the BST's pet fought (if any were being fought at the time) instead of HKTK for the sake that it'd hit more often and Spirit Taker would hit for more damage. In that situation, since the BST's pet is a Million Eyes(potential add) anyhow, if my TP giving DID result in the pet getting WSed more/killed faster that'd actually we a good thing since it'd be one less mob to deal with! And at the times I meleed HKTK, I'm pretty sure the other DDs naturally shot him past 100TP before he even finishes his previous WS since he was using specials nonstop, and my giving him TP beyond 100 is negligable (Hex Eye would give a stronger para which is simply cured, and their deathgaze attack's dmg doesn't change by TP)....if I'm wrong and the melees DIDN'T give him 100+TP easily, then shame on me, but it's not like I had any other means of getting MP back that wouldn't result in people dying..it's the only reasonable method I saw.

*sigh* Again..I know the melee thing looks totally stupid, but the TP I gave the mobs was absolutely negligable, the the 100-200MP I got per Spirit Taker really did come in handy for healing and stuff since that was another 100+ MP I wouldn't have been able to get otherwise.

And I guess I'll say it a third time in case people overlook.. I didn't have time to rest. The one time I tried to make time, a tank got dropped like a sack of potatoes.


Now I got a big f-!king headache...
 
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blazn said:
in all ACC maybe only lv 75 lol with drk sub job maybe expect that NO!
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Theres this move. It's called Spirit Taker. It gives an equal amount of MP back based on Damage done. Easily 100-200 MP Back. DRK Sub? For what? Her level-restricted Dark Magic skill stuns to be resisted? Right.

Even if she was using Club, she'd have Brainshaker as an option for stunning.

All in All, either are a better option than just standing around being unable to heal MP back. It's not exactly hard to melee and Paralyna/Cure at the same time. I do that shit while soloing.
 
lesson learned. don't help ungrateful shit heads. to be honest i think you went far above and beyond just helping. if there's one thing i hate, its fuckers being late to do shit that has been planed. now if i were there only to help people i didn't know and they didn't even bother to show up, i would've left after 30 minutes. im not very patient and i know thats a pretty big flaw, but if you can't be bothered to show up to your own run, fuck you
 
Im in the fallensouls ls and I cant help but to post something about this. I wasnt there although I meant to be I showed up late, but the bottom line is non of you have no right to point fingers and call names if you wasnt there. I wasnt there so I cant say what did or didnt happen or what was whos fault. But one thing is I highly doubt Jeiger would make that shit up about the whm meleeing, I understand ppl have there good days and bad days but damn. As far as asking someone to help they asked a whm for help cuz they needed whms is it right to help out some ppl that need a whm and come to not do your job like your suppose to. Idk ish at all but my personaly belief is that she didnt do a good job im sure ish knows her job but this specific instance she didnt do it. The reason things went bad there was no one persons fault thre lots of factors on why this shit whent so bad. Let look at what really could have contributed to the situation: ish not doing her job right, Jeiger pullin to much hate, ppl could have been tired, let alont alot of other factors. As far as being ungratful hes is very gratful if he was in a better moob he might have said ty, but everyone that stayed those extra runs choose to stay there you didnt have to there was nothing holding you there if you wanted to leave you could have left anytime.
Now to refer to my first comment I wasnt there so how can I really know what really happened, all I know is I know the ppl from fallensouls and trust them alot more than most ppl that posted here. The ppl in my ls are alot better than what yall are makin them out to be. Your all judging him and the ls from this one bad instance that yall got together.
 
reddogneo said:
Im in the fallensouls ls and I cant help but to post something about this. I wasnt there although I meant to be I showed up late, but the bottom line is non of you have no right to point fingers and call names if you wasnt there. I wasnt there so I cant say what did or didnt happen or what was whos fault. But one thing is I highly doubt Jeiger would make that shit up about the whm meleeing, I understand ppl have there good days and bad days but damn. As far as asking someone to help they asked a whm for help cuz they needed whms is it right to help out some ppl that need a whm and come to not do your job like your suppose to. Idk ish at all but my personaly belief is that she didnt do a good job im sure ish knows her job but this specific instance she didnt do it. The reason things went bad there was no one persons fault thre lots of factors on why this shit whent so bad. Let look at what really could have contributed to the situation: ish not doing her job right, Jeiger pullin to much hate, ppl could have been tired, let alont alot of other factors. As far as being ungratful hes is very gratful if he was in a better moob he might have said ty, but everyone that stayed those extra runs choose to stay there you didnt have to there was nothing holding you there if you wanted to leave you could have left anytime.
Now to refer to my first comment I wasnt there so how can I really know what really happened, all I know is I know the ppl from fallensouls and trust them alot more than most ppl that posted here. The ppl in my ls are alot better than what yall are makin them out to be. Your all judging him and the ls from this one bad instance that yall got together.
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this Kinda thing goes be rep. and OPs rep is one of the cleanest. she has nothing to gain from this and alot to lose if she posted missleading info. While your leader just stuck his dick between his legs and ran. :omg:
 
Most of us are basing what we said off what your LS member said. Based off what he said, it became really obvious he was lying. As far as I can tell, Ish did nothing wrong, not in the least. I say she SHOULD have meleed like she did. Ultimately all faults are based on the poor actions of your LS as shown in th information provided BY your LS. In this case its not a bias, as I am pulling most of my info from your members own mouth.

If you feel strongly on it, tell us wat she could have done better, that wasn't already covered earlier as an impossibility.
 
reddogneo said:
Im in the fallensouls ls and I cant help but to post something about this. I wasnt there although I meant to be I showed up late, but the bottom line is non of you have no right to point fingers and call names if you wasnt there. I wasnt there so I cant say what did or didnt happen or what was whos fault. But one thing is I highly doubt Jeiger would make that shit up about the whm meleeing, I understand ppl have there good days and bad days but damn.

As far as asking someone to help they asked a whm for help cuz they needed whms is it right to help out some ppl that need a whm and come to not do your job like your suppose to. Idk ish at all but my personaly belief is that she didnt do a good job im sure ish knows her job but this specific instance she didnt do it.

The reason things went bad there was no one persons fault thre lots of factors on why this shit whent so bad. Let look at what really could have contributed to the situation: ish not doing her job right, Jeiger pullin to much hate, ppl could have been tired, let alont alot of other factors.

As far as being ungratful hes is very gratful if he was in a better moob he might have said ty, but everyone that stayed those extra runs choose to stay there you didnt have to there was nothing holding you there if you wanted to leave you could have left anytime.

Now to refer to my first comment I wasnt there so how can I really know what really happened, all I know is I know the ppl from fallensouls and trust them alot more than most ppl that posted here. The ppl in my ls are alot better than what yall are makin them out to be. Your all judging him and the ls from this one bad instance that yall got together.
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I edited it to make it readable, so on to what you actually said.

Ish has admitted to meleeing, she admitted it in the OP, she explained why she was meleeing, so just saying she sucks for doing that is irrelevant. She said she was meleeing because she needed MP, and there's a staff weaponskill that restores MP. Since she wasn't getting refresh from the red mage, that was the best way for her to get MP back and still do her job. Blame the rdm for her meleeing, not her for choosing the only viable solution for another person's mistakes. As for her not doing her job right, she's curing people, casting paralyna, that's all a whm does at a Hakutaku run.

You admitted you weren't there or that you showed up late, then put the majority of the blame in Ish. The other LS member that posted obviously didn't see anything so his whole post was irrelevant and yours is too for the most part. The fact that the only thing you can harp on her for is using the only means to get MP available, namely meleeing, means she did her job just fine but you can't admit that someone else in your LS fucked up.
 
I dont see it as him sticking his dick between his legs and runnign away he just rather not waste his time fuckin with these flame boards. Besides look at it this flame is gonna get old in a few weeks and noone will ever rememeber. It so why waste a bunch of time posting here repeating his same defence over and over again when ppl will just forget this in a few weeks.

Off topic
And why is blazn posting that in here stop posting to just post something from what I hear noone cares about his oppinion anyway.
 
reddogneo said:
I dont see it as him sticking his dick between his legs and runnign away he just rather not waste his time fuckin with these flame boards. Besides look at it this flame is gonna get old in a few weeks and noone will ever rememeber. It so why waste a bunch of time posting here repeating his same defence over and over again when ppl will just forget this in a few weeks.
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SO are you gonna address the issue or what? You stuck your nose into it when you didn't have to, so don't just back out when asked to provide reasons for your beliefs. Knowing what you do, how could she have possibly done better?
 
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