update details Apr. 18, 2006

Hmmm I didn't see any mention of being able to access your storage outside of your home city which I thought I saw them announce a couple weeks ago.
 
dedalius said:
I've never had a problem finding a Bard.
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I wonder why:spiteful:

decidence said:
Hmmm I didn't see any mention of being able to access your storage outside of your home city which I thought I saw them announce a couple weeks ago.
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All it said before was that you can view it anywhere like mog safe, not access it.
 
That anti mpk change is good. Prevents that mpk we saw in a thrad in the fb recently of a rdm who was grabbing all the beetles. He was killed by someone casting dia on one of the beetles he had hate on. Beetle kept attacking him, but he couldn't sleep or charm it because it was claimed by the dia.

I don't see anything about a mob not attacking you just because you can't attack it. If you grab hate on a claimed mob it will still attack you, but you won't be able to attack it. If they changed that, hnms would be easy. Put the whms in a party outside the alliance and they would never get attacked because they never have claim of it despite cure bombing. Thus, power lvlers can still tank.
 
Rones said:
That anti mpk change is good. Prevents that mpk we saw in a thrad in the fb recently of a rdm who was grabbing all the beetles. He was killed by someone casting dia on one of the beetles he had hate on. Beetle kept attacking him, but he couldn't sleep or charm it because it was claimed by the dia.

I don't see anything about a mob not attacking you just because you can't attack it. If you grab hate on a claimed mob it will still attack you, but you won't be able to attack it. If they changed that, hnms would be easy. Put the whms in a party outside the alliance and they would never get attacked because they never have claim of it despite cure bombing. Thus, power lvlers can still tank.
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The way I read it is you don't generate hate on the mob unless you can attack it. So PL would curebomb all they want and never take hate.
 
dedalius said:
The way I read it is you don't generate hate on the mob unless you can attack it. So PL would curebomb all they want and never take hate.
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Where do you see that? Their picture is specifically refering to claiming of unclaimed mobs. No where does it say you don't build hate. It just states you don't get the claim unless you have the most hate or the person with the most hate does something to specifically take claim (like attack it).

For example: I banishga 2 bunnies. I will get claim on the one I targeted and hate on the other. Now if you cast dia on the unclaimed bunny, you would get claim in the past. However, now you won't get claim until you build enough hate to make it attack you instead of me. If in the meantime I attack that bunny, I will get claim immidiately because I have the hate.
 
Rones said:
Where do you see that? Their picture is specifically refering to claiming of unclaimed mobs. No where does it say you don't build hate. It just states you don't get the claim unless you have the most hate or the person with the most hate does something to specifically take claim (like attack it).

For example: I banishga 2 bunnies. I will get claim on the one I targeted and hate on the other. Now if you cast dia on the unclaimed bunny, you would get claim in the past. However, now you won't get claim until you build enough hate to make it attack you instead of me. If in the meantime I attack that bunny, I will get claim immidiately because I have the hate.
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Generating hate is the wrong phrase, I said the wrong thing. I meant the monster won't turn on to you.

Square said:
Accordingly, players will no longer be attacked by monsters that they themselves are unable to attack.
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This either means that as soon as you grab hate, claim switches (ubergay) or the monster won't turn to attack you unless you have claim or it is yellow.

So PL can't tank.
 
Rones said:
Where do you see that? Their picture is specifically refering to claiming of unclaimed mobs. No where does it say you don't build hate. It just states you don't get the claim unless you have the most hate or the person with the most hate does something to specifically take claim (like attack it).

For example: I banishga 2 bunnies. I will get claim on the one I targeted and hate on the other. Now if you cast dia on the unclaimed bunny, you would get claim in the past. However, now you won't get claim until you build enough hate to make it attack you instead of me. If in the meantime I attack that bunny, I will get claim immidiately because I have the hate.
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Above the pictures:

"The conditions for claiming monsters has been changed in the following ways. Accordingly, players will no longer be attacked by monsters that they themselves are unable to attack."

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11us/2006041883vPh1/detail.html
 
The conditions under which the following notorious monsters appear have been altered:
Castle Oztroja: Mee Deggi the Punisher, Quu Domi the Gallant
Sea Serpent Grotto: Pahh the Gullcaller, Worr the Clawfisted, Novv the Whitehearted, Zuug the Shoreleaper

I may go mee deggi camping again :).
 
lionsheart said:
i see huge inventery problem for pup tho... they really need one more class with ability to MP regen the pt, otherwise they'd just fall back into the line of smn :(

Btw when'll we get the job adjustment? i only see whm pld and rng in the description.... where's MINE??????!!!!
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THF's not a real job.... its only a support job. lol
 
Anyone notice the blatant copying of set bonuses from Diablo II? I'm not saying it's bad, because I loved sets in D2, just pointing it out.
 
looks like Puppetmaster will be an alchemists best friend for awhile ;P
 
Tagrineth said:
Above the pictures:

"The conditions for claiming monsters has been changed in the following ways. Accordingly, players will no longer be attacked by monsters that they themselves are unable to attack."

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11us/2006041883vPh1/detail.html
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Exactly. Back to my example, it means I wouldn't be attacked by a bunny I couldn't attack. This is done by not giving the person claim who cast dia on the unclaimed bunny I hit with banishga. Its not worded the best, but their explanation that follows matches what I've been describing. They aren't doing it by not giving you hate, they are doing it by not giving someone else claim on an unclaimed enemy if you still have hate. This best relates to hnm kiting where someone sneaks in a dia when it goes unclaimed for a sec. Now that won't work.

If it was way you described, it would be exploited extremely in all hnm fights. There would be no point to -enimity gear end game either. Just sit outside the alliance, cure bomb with +50 enimity and you couldn't ever get attacked. That isn't what they are doing.
 
Rones does that mean say I get a link and you come along to take the link off me, thus saving my sorry ass. You couldn't attack and get claim?
 
well, you can't steal mobs now unless the LS wipes.

The conditions under which the following notorious monsters appear have been altered:
・Castle Oztroja: Mee Deggi the Punisher, Quu Domi the Gallant

can't wait to see what they do with these.


Shields have been altered in the following ways:


The following features have been added to the paladin job:


Shield Mastery: Grants bonus TP when blocking an attack with a shield.
Auto Refresh: Gradually restores MP.

The chance of blocking with a shield in battle has been increased.
Shields now block more damage.

yes nigga, SHIT YES
 
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PUP does look amazing. However it looks like it's time to get some gobbie bag quests done to handle all the items. Maybe PUP will have some sort of extra inventory sort of thing for all the maneouvres (sic).
 
Cleofis said:
Rones does that mean say I get a link and you come along to take the link off me, thus saving my sorry ass. You couldn't attack and get claim?
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I get it now, Rones is right. Link's don't generate much hate. So he would be able to.
 
dedalius said:
I get it now, Rones is right. Link's don't generate much hate. So he would be able to.
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Correct. If it was just a link and was unclaimed, most any action would grab hate and claim it for me. Its a change to stop mpk through mob stealing.
 
Rones said:
Exactly. Back to my example, it means I wouldn't be attacked by a bunny I couldn't attack. This is done by not giving the person claim who cast dia on the unclaimed bunny I hit with banishga. Its not worded the best, but their explanation that follows matches what I've been describing. They aren't doing it by not giving you hate, they are doing it by not giving someone else claim on an unclaimed enemy if you still have hate. This best relates to hnm kiting where someone sneaks in a dia when it goes unclaimed for a sec. Now that won't work.

If it was way you described, it would be exploited extremely in all hnm fights. There would be no point to -enimity gear end game either. Just sit outside the alliance, cure bomb with +50 enimity and you couldn't ever get attacked. That isn't what they are doing.
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If a mob goes yellow and you can't claim it yet, you could still attack it while it's still yellow (obviously considering that you can do other things like voke etc). You won't claim unless the mob DOES attack you.

That part of the update is probably there so you can't just progressively curebomb the claiming team's members to build massive amounts of hate for when the mob goes unclaimed.
 
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