update details Apr. 18, 2006

Mariox said:
Wow, sounds like anti power leveling addition into update too! If the power leveler get hate, the power level gets claim to the NM. Or so it sounds to me.
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I don't think so. On their ugly picture, they are talking about a yellow mob, not a claimed mob. If the mob is claimed, then it's just like it used to be as far as I can see.

If the mob becomes yellow, u have to beat the enmity first before you can claim. This will definitely prevent stealing and subsequent MPK. Not bad SE, not bad.
 
Tyrath said:
No more forced spike flails?

It seems you cant steal yellow mobs now unless you can generate enough enmity to make it attack you. Thats nifty.

But...if you generate enough hate to make the monster attack you, you claim it...So Cure IV Invincible and you can get a claimed monster...? Huh?
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No, No, No, NO!

It says players cannot be ATTACKED BY monsters that THEY cannot attack.

Basically, it means a mob won't attack you if you don't have claim. :O

That'll make some methods of PLing a lot harder. "Let the PL tank!" is now GONE.
 
Several new monsters have been added to the Treasures of Aht Urhgan areas, some of which attack in response to certain actions, such as the use of job abilities or weapon skills
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i can see it now ...

Ninja : Casting Utsusemi!
pts : STOP! Those mobs aggro Ninjitsu
 
Lanien said:
lol That is your fault then. Plus, I would assume most people use the blockaid. I think it would be funny watching the people without claim spam-targetting to find someone without blockaid on. And even then, they would have to be curing someone with hate, so as long as the tank has blockaid on, everything should be fine.
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believe me, people used to do it all the time already in some places ;) There is always a stupid guy who forgets to blockaid...
 
Tagrineth said:
No, No, No, NO!

It says players cannot be ATTACKED BY monsters that THEY cannot attack.

Basically, it means a mob won't attack you if you don't have claim. :O

That'll make some methods of PLing a lot harder. "Let the PL tank!" is now GONE.
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True, I read to read better...but theres too much info to take in all at once!
 
this update is huge O.o

the dark maneuver of PUP has MP recovery... could this be PT-wide? if all those maneuvers are PT-wide, PUP is the new support (accuracy, MP, attack, whatever). If this is only on the puppet, then that's too bad ; ;

Is it me or do all 3 job seem way more complicated than anything before? I'm still having a headache from reading corsair ><
 
From what it seems like, the enhances will be for the puppet only.
 
Kalendor said:
I don't think so. On their ugly picture, they are talking about a yellow mob, not a claimed mob. If the mob is claimed, then it's just like it used to be as far as I can see.

If the mob becomes yellow, u have to beat the enmity first before you can claim. This will definitely prevent stealing and subsequent MPK. Not bad SE, not bad.
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After looking at pics and thinking about it. The picture is showing the monster that went yellow even tho person A is still attacking it. So person B could not claim till he had more hate.

Dose this mean, person B could provoke monster, and if it was not enoph hate to make it turn, it stays yellow, and next swing will reclaim it.

And ya, for PLing, too much curing by PLer and no exp for the party. lol

Iron bullets (new ammo), along with silver bullets being quiver/pouched. There goes my idea of crafting bullets and bringing them to people in partys. But looks like alchamy gets new bullets, new oil (for pup), and new items for COR to make. I'm happy.
 
Kalendor said:
I don't think so. On their ugly picture, they are talking about a yellow mob, not a claimed mob. If the mob is claimed, then it's just like it used to be as far as I can see.

If the mob becomes yellow, u have to beat the enmity first before you can claim. This will definitely prevent stealing and subsequent MPK. Not bad SE, not bad.
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did you forget what LS you are in before making this statement?

lol
 
Mariox said:
And ya, for PLing, too much curing by PLer and no exp for the party. lol
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No, you just wont be able to make the PLer tank the mobs anymore. Because I was confused on this too, but it says Mobs that you cant attack wont attack you, so it wont just change claim just because someone else has more hate.
 
Claim can only change if the mob actually turns yellow first, but you can't take the claim if you can't beat the enmity of the party/alliance that had claim previously. Spamming on mobs during a possible wipe will no longer work.
 
It means the PL approach of having the PL tank will no longer work. The PL approach of the PL spamming Cures should still work.
 
I want a bunch of extra buttons and menus for my job >:(
 
i see huge inventery problem for pup tho... they really need one more class with ability to MP regen the pt, otherwise they'd just fall back into the line of smn :(

Btw when'll we get the job adjustment? i only see whm pld and rng in the description.... where's MINE??????!!!!
 
"Time Remaining" "Minutes" "Seconds" "Reward:"

All very welcome additons
lionsheart said:
i see huge inventery problem for pup tho... they really need one more class with ability to MP regen the pt, otherwise they'd just fall back into the line of smn :(

Btw when'll we get the job adjustment? i only see whm pld and rng in the description.... where's MINE??????!!!!
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Lol yea...the THF adjustment that gives up damage increase from behind with PD up.....that's such a load of crap. Should get some sort of haste bonus while 2hred....increased damage from the back is pretty weak, unless it's like SA but trait....in which case good luck staying in for back.
 
lionsheart said:
i see huge inventery problem for pup tho... they really need one more class with ability to MP regen the pt, otherwise they'd just fall back into the line of smn :(

Btw when'll we get the job adjustment? i only see whm pld and rng in the description.... where's MINE??????!!!!
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Why would not having party-wide regen cause PUP to fall back like smn? It can do more things than just refresh.
 
lionsheart said:
i see huge inventery problem for pup tho...
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I don't see this happening when they can only change Automaton parts every 20 minutes... Will really fill up the mog house, though.

they really need one more class with ability to MP regen the pt, otherwise they'd just fall back into the line of smn :(
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I somehow suspect the Bard's Roll or Red Mage's Roll ability of COR will have something like that.

Btw when'll we get the job adjustment? i only see whm pld and rng in the description.... where's MINE??????!!!!
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Wait another 2 months, this is just the first update.
 
dedalius said:
You do realize there is two (2) jobs with refresh-like abilities right?
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And those two are the hardest jobs to find when partying :|
 
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