UR DOIN IT RONG

/RDM still offers Stoneskin, which can be handy, Fast cast, which offsets the lack of decent hate tools now, and the MDB is still useful. If you've got the /DRK sub, go for it, of course. Should be interesting to see how it all turns out in the end, between new JAs and spells.
 
I'm still kinda iffy on if I should level rdm to 49 for blu.
In all honesty I don't really want to haha

I still got dnc and war to take to 49 and i wanna take care of that first then hop on sam and blu to get to 80

depends what you're leveling it for, we have battery charge which is our own refresh now and stronger than the original, phlanax i guess would be the biggest push for leveling and finishing as well as your own haste at 98 assuming that animating wail isnt more effiecient/stronger


so there ya go, if you take another mage job up then rdm has plenty of options; the only thing i can think of off of the top of my head are dispel(means you save points not that i dispel much on what i do normally) and phalanx coupled with pdt you can take quite a beating
 
/RDM still offers Stoneskin, which can be handy, Fast cast, which offsets the lack of decent hate tools now, and the MDB is still useful. If you've got the /DRK sub, go for it, of course. Should be interesting to see how it all turns out in the end, between new JAs and spells.

Yeah I guess I overlooked the stoneskin and FC and saw /RDM as a great tool for CE only. The only problem I would have with PLD/RDM still tanking a mob you can't atonement or sata would be that I would likely get murdered being BLM with the PLD unable to cap both CE and VE in a reasonable amount of time.

Is PLD able to cap stoneskin fairly easy or are they better off with accession stoneskin?
 
Yeah I guess I overlooked the stoneskin and FC and saw /RDM as a great tool for CE only. The only problem I would have with PLD/RDM still tanking a mob you can't atonement or sata would be that I would likely get murdered being BLM with the PLD unable to cap both CE and VE in a reasonable amount of time.

Is PLD able to cap stoneskin fairly easy or are they better off with accession stoneskin?

Accension SS would require a SCH to be almost spamming it unless the pld was pld/nin. Although with the new Phalanx that PLD gains, that may change.

PLD/RDM was mainly for SS phalanx, along with the CE that it gained as a secondary. It was more of a survivability sub used when you knew a mob was going to spam AOE moves that would rape /nin.
 
So would /WHM become viable once we hit the 99 cap? It would get Magic Defense Bonus II along with SS and the native phalanx and you'd have Repose for at least one decent CE tool.
 
Accension SS would require a SCH to be almost spamming it unless the pld was pld/nin. Although with the new Phalanx that PLD gains, that may change.

PLD/RDM was mainly for SS phalanx, along with the CE that it gained as a secondary. It was more of a survivability sub used when you knew a mob was going to spam AOE moves that would rape /nin.

At 80, whm/sch and rdm/sch will have accession as well. Get a rdm, whm, and sch in the tank pt and we could see updated version of an aerial armor rotation lol.
 
At 80, whm/sch and rdm/sch will have accession as well. Get a rdm, whm, and sch in the tank pt and we could see updated version of an aerial armor rotation lol.

lol some people in this thread (aka Divinius) have people in their linkshell that are incompetent to even know when to lay off of Weaponskilling. I doubt they would have the common sense to be able to setup a Stoneskin rotation, or a stun order at that.

But I agree that would be pretty pimp to be able to setup a SS rotation.
 
It's entertaining to see, but it's the kind of stuff we don't attempt too often. /WHM might become somewhat more viable for things like JOL, but I doubt it will be particularly spectacular. If Repose gets abused as a hate tool, they;ll just edit it, after all.
 
lol some people in this thread (aka Divinius) have people in their linkshell that are incompetent to even know when to lay off of Weaponskilling. I doubt they would have the common sense to be able to setup a Stoneskin rotation, or a stun order at that..

You know, I had decided that maybe i was being a bit harsh with you, and that I should just back off. I was going to basically stop posting in here and avoid further confrontation with you, since it's really not nice to pick on the slow kids. But then you had to go and personally call me out, as well as put down my former LS mates, so yeah, it's on now, fucker.

First of all, I'm no longer in any endgame linkshell. I've resigned from all of them, save a dynamis shell that I just joined a few weeks ago.

Second of all, you don't know any of the people I've played with, and you know nothing of their skill. I've fought alongside some incredibly skilled players, and have co-lead a few LSes, including a Dynamis shell that I essentially helped to build from the ground up. And yes, in any shell you are going to have a few people that get themselves killed because they don't know when to back off. But if you have enough skilled players, those few less-than-perfect players are easily compensated for initially, and can then be taught along the way. Just because I don't choose to be an elitist dickwad like some endgame LS leaders and kick everyone that isn't "perfect" doesn't mean that "my linkshell" lacks sufficient skill.

I'm not going to go into a list of strategies and tactics that I've seen, explained to others, and then successfully implemented, but I'm very proud of the people I've played with and helped to lead, and enjoyed the time I spent doing it very much. I'll thank you to back the fuck off, and stop pretending like you have the first fucking clue what members of a good, quality linkshell are like.
 
You know, I had decided that maybe i was being a bit harsh with you, and that I should just back off. I was going to basically stop posting in here and avoid further confrontation with you, since it's really not nice to pick on the slow kids. But then you had to go and personally call me out, as well as put down my former LS mates, so yeah, it's on now, fucker.

First of all, I'm no longer in any endgame linkshell. I've resigned from all of them, save a dynamis shell that I just joined a few weeks ago.

Second of all, you don't know any of the people I've played with, and you know nothing of their skill. I've fought alongside some incredibly skilled players, and have co-lead a few LSes, including a Dynamis shell that I essentially helped to build from the ground up. And yes, in any shell you are going to have a few people that get themselves killed because they don't know when to back off. But if you have enough skilled players, those few less-than-perfect players are easily compensated for initially, and can then be taught along the way. Just because I don't choose to be an elitist dickwad like some endgame LS leaders and kick everyone that isn't "perfect" doesn't mean that "my linkshell" lacks sufficient skill.

I'm not going to go into a list of strategies and tactics that I've seen, explained to others, and then successfully implemented, but I'm very proud of the people I've played with and helped to lead, and enjoyed the time I spent doing it very much. I'll thank you to back the fuck off, and stop pretending like you have the first fucking clue what members of a good, quality linkshell are like.

Butthurt much? :D

You have yet to answer my original statement, I knew that would get you to come back even though you said you were going to stay away from the thread.

Troll much? :D(ohseewhatididthar)
 
inb4 arbor fucking
 
Butthurt much? :D

You have yet to answer my original statement, I knew that would get you to come back even though you said you were going to stay away from the thread.

Troll much? :D(ohseewhatididthar)
Flamebait much?
Stop pretending you have the high ground.
 
Yeah, my bad. I bought right into that crap -- hook, line, and sinker. At least he admitted he was just baiting me.

I'll just leave Jyak to continue shitting up threads with his drivel, and I'll try to avoid shitting them up with my blow ups against him.
 
Flamebait much?
Stop pretending you have the high ground.

Flamebaiting on the flameboard? Who would have thought.

I think xalionaf created a picture that made me laugh to no end. Actually, each time you've come in to say anything towards me it has been of negative connotation. Almost each of our encounters(in negative context) have been caused by you. If you can't hang on the flameboard ignore it? :D
 
Somewhat off the topic of the last few pages but relates to the original posters point. Was just in a party with a Red Mage at 64 that would only spam barstone, barblind, and dispel on Colibri. I tried several times to tell him that he needed to refresh people, stop casting useless bars, and that protect lasted for 30 minutes (he casted it on me every fight). He would only haste and refresh himself and said that "we play the class different, it does not mean he is wrong". I wanted to scream, it was pissing me off so much. I guess there is no getting through to people, but wtf!!!!! "Guess you don't want the points" was his answer to me asking why he was casting barspells. WHAT does that MEAN!? I would hope that someone in the community his his friend and they can talk some sense into him. I know no one likes to be told how to play their job, however, I tried my best to be nice and talk about it with him in tells privately to not make him feel attacked and it did nothing. Glariont is his name. If someone knows him, please explain to him refresh cycles, the importance of debuffing, who needs haste, what dispel does, what barspells are for and when it is appropriate to cast them, and the duration of Protect.
 
Somewhat off the topic of the last few pages but relates to the original posters point. Was just in a party with a Red Mage at 64 that would only spam barstone, barblind, and dispel on Colibri. I tried several times to tell him that he needed to refresh people, stop casting useless bars, and that protect lasted for 30 minutes (he casted it on me every fight). He would only haste and refresh himself and said that "we play the class different, it does not mean he is wrong". I wanted to scream, it was pissing me off so much. I guess there is no getting through to people, but wtf!!!!! "Guess you don't want the points" was his answer to me asking why he was casting barspells. WHAT does that MEAN!? I would hope that someone in the community his his friend and they can talk some sense into him. I know no one likes to be told how to play their job, however, I tried my best to be nice and talk about it with him in tells privately to not make him feel attacked and it did nothing. Glariont is his name. If someone knows him, please explain to him refresh cycles, the importance of debuffing, who needs haste, what dispel does, what barspells are for and when it is appropriate to cast them, and the duration of Protect.

Wait, wait, wait. This sounds extremely familiar.... Isn't this the guy who thought/thinks that barspells boost stats associated with the element? Like, Barfira = +STR? I coulda sworn there was something like that on the FB before...
 
I searched his name first and didn't find him prior to posting. It could be the same though, maybe that is what he meant by points.
 
Wait, wait, wait. This sounds extremely familiar.... Isn't this the guy who thought/thinks that barspells boost stats associated with the element? Like, Barfira = +STR? I coulda sworn there was something like that on the FB before...

Agreed, that does sound familiar..........
 
Rest assured, the game has no shortage of tards.
 
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