Was Anttaru right?

[Princemercury]

It's a story, plagiarized hundreds of times.

People decide to blindly "believe" in it.

 

[Xalioniaf]

Everyone knows the world ends when they turn on the Large Hadron Collider.
We'd all have been dead back in May (or was it April?), but they keep pushing the turn on date back. We're currently set to die via black hole in August.

 

[hellstorm]

ok that interesting way to go, country to heavy and we going to sink.

 

[Anttaru]

On a side note, this is a very interesting topic, I look forward to more discussion.

The details on this topic will escalate to the relations between extraterrestrials and our ancient civilizations. (In the Mayans case, their serpent God and ruler Quetzalcoatl. Undoubtedly a high ranking Dracoden of the Serpent Race, or modernly referred to as the Reptoid race by alien enthusiasts and proclaimed alien contactees).

Many would suggest this is all science fiction, but in truth those who write science fiction get their ideas from this stuff. Indian Jones and the "Crystal Skulls", those things are real, but like a lot of this stuff, it's been conditioned for us to think all of it is false. There are no Alien movies before UFO sightings and other reports of them.

What makes the existence of ET's important to this subject. They are the ones who shared knowledge with our ancient civilizations. I often point out how there is no way to identify planetary bodies without the proper equipment, nor can all of the bodies of the solar system be seen with the naked eye. It takes 10 days to notice a planetary movement, and 5,000 years to record the planetary alignments without a computer. These civilizations knew about all 11 bodies resident to the sun, and their calendars, Mayan one in particular acknowledges positioning of the planetary bodies of our solar system. Surely an Alien Race would know how our solar system ticks since they have space craft that can move faster than light and travel through space. The reasons for ancient civilizations marking the end of times as we know it, is based on knowledge that was shared with them.

The attributes that make all of this information more plausible are scattered in pieces, through various claims and recovered information from various ancient civilization's sacred grounds... Also The Bible... which is modified of coarse, but still clicks and is full of truth and deception in my opinion. Truth is arguably the best way to apply deception without us rejecting the keys/lies needed for us to willingly give ourselves away blindly. The ultimate form of submission. Or perhaps it's all part of this mass confusion.


What we see in the news year after year at any given time, UFO sightings and reports, also reports from people who wish to remain anonymous . These things happen all the time, on some accounts entire towns claim to have seen massive saucer shaped craft accompanied by smaller crafts moving at the same rate, flying in formation. Thousands of people all over a town like Stevens ville Texas and Phoenix Arizona report seeing such objects in the sky, with the same descriptions, and also the same descriptions alien contactees have been talking about for years.

Nazca Lines 200 BC - 300 AD:

These are spread out 8 klm (I might have to reconfirm that). Those who dwell on the ground can never see the effects of their efforts without a flying machine. Up to this day the purpose of the Nazca lines remain mysterious.

It's not natural for a civilization to just believe there is a creator located in the sky. Like all ancient civilizations they all looked up to the heavens to acknowledge Gods, or Those who are from the heavens.

Nazca lines depict 25 different images, mostly animals.

The most interesting of the bunch is what they call the Nazca Astronaut, probably because it can only be made out from a birds eye view, like the others.

Looking at all the other lines, they seem to stay close to the concepts of what the animals actual features are. The Astronaut, the bipedal being, has what appears to be a short body with very large eyes. According to depictions from Abductees and Contactees This strikes a very close resemblance to ET's from the Zeta Reticuli system in the constellation Reticulum ( A Gray or an Eben) These Nazca lines would be very visible to them. Maybe even make them feel welcomed or worshiped. Either way the lines suggest intelligence with purpose.

- Short body
- Massive Eyes
- For looking down upon, before we can fly.

While I don't necessarily -agree- with Ant, I don't disagree with him either.

I know i needn't ever suggest to you, to refrain from ridiculing what appears to be rediculis. Ridiculing others is the way of the fool. To not agree or disagree is to leave an open channel to what cannot be explained. Your state of mind is the best way to handle what may or may not be. How you handle what you may discover if you seek out answers to these finger prints, and fragments of information all over the place, is up to you.

You haven't a shell to obstruct your judgment. In saying that I don't suggest you believe in the same things I do, as i share my reasoning for believing these things.

For a while now I've been thinking about a lot of things, specifically the coincidences between what is going on in the world and what has been predicted by quite a few civilizations as the "end of the world." Perhaps I'm seeing a pattern where there isn't any, which is entirely possible... it is somewhat human nature after all.

However, one cannot deny that the world is in a very unstable place. I've come to wonder, not necessarily believe, if the world will truly end in 2012. If that is the case, while there may not be anything we can do about it, we may not be able to change it... but we may be able to make the most of the time we have left. Spending more time with family and friends, enjoying life instead of mourning it. I think we should focus less on the death of Armageddon and focus instead more on the time we have remaining on this little dustball.

I believe in other dimensions and our qualities steer what direction we head towards. Some will move forward, some will move backward, and some will remain for another shot in the 3rd dimension. Due to the circumstances the masses are not aware of, this (Our earth) is probably not a place one would want to return to, that's if, these negative gestures continue into the next series. Over time the conditions here have become worse, it's a place of control and domination. I heard on the TV yesterday, how they were comparing Woodstock 79 with Woodstock 99, and how it's gone from Love to Hate. I don't know if your spiritual or not, but if you are, imagine you carry on with Hate instead of Love. That would be less fulfilling. Enjoy life, be good, and be true to yourself. We can over come all shame and guilt if we practice the qualities needed to move forward.

Perhaps 2012 won't be the end of the world after all. Maybe it will instead be a time of great catastrophe and as a result, enlightenment for all the peoples of the world. I've found most times in life people will NOT change unless something drastic happens. Something that forces people out of their circumstances to see things how they are.

If we weren't constrained by controlling expenses and fear of ridicule, we'd be far more advanced and we'd have the technology to ensure everyones safety. I've read about the Eben's and their way of life from the Serpio project (Human Alien Exchange program .. A very long and contraversal read that took place after the Roswell incident with the captured alien and first contact for our civilization. It about how we sent 12 humans to another world for 14 years blah blah blah) The Eben's are said to have a population of around 600,000, with a population of that magnitude, it's very easy to move them all if they were facing a planetary threat. We have 6,000,000,000,000, which is a bitch if we were working to save everyone, it would have to be first come first serve, then there is the guilt for not being, able to make sacrifices and a list of other things that we'd have to cope with. Then again if everyone had the means of survival under such an event, we'd surely have outdone ourselves and should be commended for what we're capable of at such large numbers. It's often been suggested that 1/3 of our population will survive a major pole shift.

For instance, many drug abusers won't change their habits for themselves. However, if they have a near death experience. Something that takes them to the edge and they somehow manage to survive, many will kick the habit and try to retain a normal life. Maybe the "end of the world" isn't the literal end of the world, but instead an end to OUR world. The world in which we persist today that is so detrimental not only to ourselves, our planet, but to humanity as a whole.

Or end of times as it is now, or an end of this story the globe is carrying through this cycle. It could turn out to be the end of us as a species. Life is part of our development, so it's never a good time to fall back when we look at it on a spiritual level.

Look up Hydro cell and other free energy machines. The free energy communities are actually very cranky about a lot of free energy machines either being fakes are being buried for being real

Check out the Tesla Wardenclyffe Tower 5:46 into the video


The deception and control are very real aspects. Lesser expenses would have made our technology advance faster. Once again greed is the driving of this downfall.

A more personal example: I myself find it hard to change unless I am forced to. I don't care what happens to me, I can deal with it. But if I see my actions affecting others negatively, or someone else being harmed in one way or another... I am for some reason driven to do things differently, whether that means stepping up or backing down, either way.

Look at the way things are in the world. So much apathy, so much fighting. All over issues that, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't really matter.

It's the Serpent agenda. Us killing ourselves over beliefs, no money = no love. Alien contactees suggest we're being screwed with by a race from the Alpha Draconis system, the Bible warns the Serpent (satan) is upon us.

Biblically speaking:

- The Angels are to serve God and Man as we are made in his image.
- Satan and his followers did not like that idea, ended up being banished from Heaven.

-Alien contactee information regarding the Reptoids suggest the Alpha Draconis is not their place of origin, they were banished from their original dimension

Other Human like ET's, Andromedians in particular, suggest Humans are considered royalty because we have 22 genes of DNA in us, which is more than any other of our kind in this Universe. Not that i would look forward to someone serving me or anything, I think the Angels mentioned in the Bible are all Extraterrestrial in their physical form.

Our potentials have been screwed with, I think to be inferior. We work our asses off doing the same thing everyday and pay to live life. We have very limited time to express our true potentials and taking the time and risk to manifest our ideas can end up ruining a life, that is a basis for more suppression.

 

[Lecan]

The details on this topic will escalate to the relations between extraterrestrials and our ancient civilizations. (In the Mayans case, their serpent God and ruler Quetzalcoatl. Undoubtedly a high ranking Dracoden of the Serpent Race, or modernly referred to as the Reptoid race by alien enthusiasts and proclaimed alien contactees).

Many would suggest this is all science fiction, but in truth those who write science fiction get their ideas from this stuff. Indian Jones and the "Crystal Skulls", those things are real, but like a lot of this stuff, it's been conditioned for us to think all of it is false. There are no Alien movies before UFO sightings and other reports of them.

What makes the existence of ET's important to this subject. They are the ones who shared knowledge with our ancient civilizations. I often point out how there is no way to identify planetary bodies without the proper equipment, nor can all of the bodies of the solar system be seen with the naked eye. It takes 10 days to notice a planetary movement, and 5,000 years to record the planetary alignments without a computer. These civilizations knew about all 11 bodies resident to the sun, and their calendars, Mayan one in particular acknowledges positioning of the planetary bodies of our solar system. Surely an Alien Race would know how our solar system ticks since they have space craft that can move faster than light and travel through space. The reasons for ancient civilizations marking the end of times as we know it, is based on knowledge that was shared with them.

The attributes that make all of this information more plausible are scattered in pieces, through various claims and recovered information from various ancient civilization's sacred grounds... Also The Bible... which is modified of coarse, but still clicks and is full of truth and deception in my opinion. Truth is arguably the best way to apply deception without us rejecting the keys/lies needed for us to willingly give ourselves away blindly. The ultimate form of submission. Or perhaps it's all part of this mass confusion.


What we see in the news year after year at any given time, UFO sightings and reports, also reports from people who wish to remain anonymous . These things happen all the time, on some accounts entire towns claim to have seen massive saucer shaped craft accompanied by smaller crafts moving at the same rate, flying in formation. Thousands of people all over a town like Stevens ville Texas and Phoenix Arizona report seeing such objects in the sky, with the same descriptions, and also the same descriptions alien contactees have been talking about for years.

Nazca Lines 200 BC - 300 AD:

These are spread out 8 klm (I might have to reconfirm that). Those who dwell on the ground can never see the effects of their efforts without a flying machine. Up to this day the purpose of the Nazca lines remain mysterious.

It's not natural for a civilization to just believe there is a creator located in the sky. Like all ancient civilizations they all looked up to the heavens to acknowledge Gods, or Those who are from the heavens.

Nazca lines depict 25 different images, mostly animals.

The most interesting of the bunch is what they call the Nazca Astronaut, probably because it can only be made out from a birds eye view, like the others.

Looking at all the other lines, they seem to stay close to the concepts of what the animals actual features are. The Astronaut, the bipedal being, has what appears to be a short body with very large eyes. According to depictions from Abductees and Contactees This strikes a very close resemblance to ET's from the Zeta Reticuli system in the constellation Reticulum ( A Gray or an Eben) These Nazca lines would be very visible to them. Maybe even make them feel welcomed or worshiped. Either way the lines suggest intelligence with purpose.

- Short body
- Massive Eyes
- For looking down upon, before we can fly.






I know i needn't ever suggest to you, to refrain from ridiculing what appears to be rediculis. Ridiculing others is the way of the fool. To not agree or disagree is to leave an open channel to what cannot be explained. Your state of mind is the best way to handle what may or may not be. How you handle what you may discover if you seek out answers to these finger prints, and fragments of information all over the place, is up to you.

You haven't a shell to obstruct your judgment. In saying that I don't suggest you believe in the same things I do, as i share my reasoning for believing these things.



I believe in other dimensions and our qualities steer what direction we head towards. Some will move forward, some will move backward, and some will remain for another shot in the 3rd dimension. Due to the circumstances the masses are not aware of, this (Our earth) is probably not a place one would want to return to, that's if, these negative gestures continue into the next series. Over time the conditions here have become worse, it's a place of control and domination. I heard on the TV yesterday, how they were comparing Woodstock 79 with Woodstock 99, and how it's gone from Love to Hate. I don't know if your spiritual or not, but if you are, imagine you carry on with Hate instead of Love. That would be less fulfilling. Enjoy life, be good, and be true to yourself. We can over come all shame and guilt if we practice the qualities needed to move forward.



If we weren't constrained by controlling expenses and fear of ridicule, we'd be far more advanced and we'd have the technology to ensure everyones safety. I've read about the Eben's and their way of life from the Serpio project (Human Alien Exchange program .. A very long and contraversal read that took place after the Roswell incident with the captured alien and first contact for our civilization. It about how we sent 12 humans to another world for 14 years blah blah blah) The Eben's are said to have a population of around 600,000, with a population of that magnitude, it's very easy to move them all if they were facing a planetary threat. We have 6,000,000,000,000, which is a bitch if we were working to save everyone, it would have to be first come first serve, then there is the guilt for not being, able to make sacrifices and a list of other things that we'd have to cope with. Then again if everyone had the means of survival under such an event, we'd surely have outdone ourselves and should be commended for what we're capable of at such large numbers. It's often been suggested that 1/3 of our population will survive a major pole shift.



Or end of times as it is now, or an end of this story the globe is carrying through this cycle. It could turn out to be the end of us as a species. Life is part of our development, so it's never a good time to fall back when we look at it on a spiritual level.

Look up Hydro cell and other free energy machines. The free energy communities are actually very cranky about a lot of free energy machines either being fakes are being buried for being real

Check out the Tesla Wardenclyffe Tower 5:46 into the video


The deception and control are very real aspects. Lesser expenses would have made our technology advance faster. Once again greed is the driving of this downfall.



It's the Serpent agenda. Us killing ourselves over beliefs, no money = no love. Alien contactees suggest we're being screwed with by a race from the Alpha Draconis system, the Bible warns the Serpent (satan) is upon us.

Biblically speaking:

- The Angels are to serve God and Man as we are made in his image.
- Satan and his followers did not like that idea, ended up being banished from Heaven.

-Alien contactee information regarding the Reptoids suggest the Alpha Draconis is not their place of origin, they were banished from their original dimension

Other Human like ET's, Andromedians in particular, suggest Humans are considered royalty because we have 22 genes of DNA in us, which is more than any other of our kind in this Universe. Not that i would look forward to someone serving me or anything, I think the Angels mentioned in the Bible are all Extraterrestrial in their physical form.

Our potentials have been screwed with, I think to be inferior. We work our asses off doing the same thing everyday and pay to live life. We have very limited time to express our true potentials and taking the time and risk to manifest our ideas can end up ruining a life, that is a basis for more suppression.

Interesting, though there is much I don't understand. You speak of not only one race of ET's, but of many. This doesn't seem all that far fetched I suppose, but still unlikely.

However, it also seems unlikely that many ancient civilizations would have gained the knowledge they had without some sort of outside influence.

One note about the Nazca lines however: I have read some scientists believe that the nazca lines mark water sources in the desert from long ago, and are actually visible from higher elevations around the various lines. The point you make about the astronaut however is still interesting. It does seem to go along with the many Egyptian markings that also depict strange visitors or "gods" that match remarkably well with what we call Extraterrestrials or UFO's.

 

[Anttaru]

Interesting, though there is much I don't understand. You speak of not only one race of ET's, but of many. This doesn't seem all that far fetched I suppose, but still unlikely.

I mentioned 4 ET's here. I know about 5 of them. I think the 5 i know happen to be the most well known, or maybe that's all I read about.

Here is a picture of what NASA calls the Ultra Deep field, the furthest we've ever seen into the Universe.

Basically the Hubble Telescope looked into a not so interesting blank spot for 11 days and eventually it seen this.

Not 1 star is single in this image, every detail is an entire galaxy. Some smaller, and some larger than the spiral we call the Milky Way where we live. Thousands of them. I don't remember the distance, but I'm pretty sure it's in the high thousands of light years. Also keep in mind this is but a mere pixel in the sky we're looking through. If the telescope focused as much as a micron in any other direction, the entire image would have been a whole new set of galaxies. The Universe is so big it should be easier to say we're not the only ones, as opposed to thinking otherwise.

There are retired military personal that claim 57 different types of known ET's to be listed on file. These are the type of personal that feel the world needs to know what's being kept from them. That i couldn't go into much detail about, but a lot of the things the say, and the things they show us are interesting none the less.

However, it also seems unlikely that many ancient civilizations would have gained the knowledge they had without some sort of outside influence.

That, is one of the largest crumbs the ET's left behind. Your the only one that can recognize that out of the bunch.

One note about the Nazca lines however: I have read some scientists believe that the nazca lines mark water sources in the desert from long ago, and are actually visible from higher elevations around the various lines. The point you make about the astronaut however is still interesting. It does seem to go along with the many Egyptian markings that also depict strange visitors or "gods" that match remarkably well with what we call Extraterrestrials or UFO's.

How the Great Pyramids were made is also a mystery. 2 million and change worth of Blocks, each 4 or 5 tons (Maybe more, I'll confirm that later I have company here) The lime stone was originally off a good distance from a few miles (I'll have to confirm that count too). They couldn't just roll the blocks on logs, the wood would have been crushed to a pulp. Each block is so well placed, one couldn't even stick a sheet of paper in between them.

We'll continue later, my ex is harassing me and it's hard to focus