What did I do wrong?! (Lyrai)

SlizenDize

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Ok today I got a tell from someone called Ayriana which asked me if I could help her get Carbuncle Mittens. I didn't know her to good but sometimes you just think eh wth I can help. I know how hard it was for me to get them. Anyway there were another one in the party which also needed these mittens and her name was Lyrai (By the way I thought you forgot to say thank you before you blisted me).

Anyway moving on. We were fighting the NM when lyrai said she quit Summon because she never got any invites and if she created a pt people tend to leave so I thought Can it really be that bad? Atleast I've never noticed it so I told her that it will be better once you reach 60 and you can MB also and not only heal.

Thats when she told me that she refused to heal in parties. I usually encurage people to do their own "thing" but I also thought well that explains why you don't get as much invites because SMN is officially a healer and after lvl60 it can be both healer and MBer if lack of other job. So I told her straight out something like this "lol when then it's not very strange that you don't get as much pt invites since people in genereal expect you to heal" then she dais something like "Don't you dare say anything like that to me" and I was all like wth is up with this person? Is she so spoiled so she cannot even accept simple facts? Everyone gotta do her bidding all the time? So I thought the last thing she needed was for me to not say anything because if that continued she could develop a personality disorder or something o.O So thats when I told her that you cannot blame me for the game that SE made and she kept telling me that it wasnt SE's fault but the players who didn't understand and I actually agreed but still I said that people expect you to be a healer and if you are not you will not get invites.

She got mad and I asked her why because I didn't think that I have insulted her in anyway and then she said that I HAD in fact insult her.

From that point I found it meaningles to talk in party window because others shouldent have to hear this. So here is the chat we did in /tell

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All I got to say is that I was shocked... this person had obviously not for any at all intention to try and solve this instead she seemed to actually want to have someone to mock and push down so they feel bad. Well that do NOT work on me.

Can anyone tell me if I did anything wrong? I mean should I accepted all her demands of shuting up which to me is an insult. I can honestly say that if the same situation happend again I would do the exact same thing and I do NOT think that I did anything to deserve getting blisted.

I know that I don't have any screenshot of the party chat because it had dissapeard since we fought the mittens NM again before I got the idea to screenshot what she said. But it doesnt matter since everyone in the party saw it. I'm not gonna give away any names but if they wanna come out and talk about it please do. I am telling the truth.

The reason I did this thread was NOT to have her "un-blist" me, I don't care about that at all if she is so stupid and blist me because SMN act as Healers then I will never be able to have any normal conversation with her anyway. The reason I did this thread was because I did not think that I was treated with the respect I deserve and I want people to know about this person, if you act like an asshole you have to face the consequences! I just do not take shit and then keep it in my hand. I throw it back!
 
you did nothing wrong Slizze. I think she just have a bad self respect, and think everyone is blaming her for everything (and think everyone think she sucks) because of the other flame about her on qcdn :P
 
Everything is someone elses fault. Yep, that looks pretty typicaly of our society. :? Although DDante's idea sounds good... 8)
 
ok, this girl has some real problems.

i've known her from xp parties and she always seemed normal, then one day we start talking about fenrir.

she says she needs fame for titan, and that same day she gets the fame for it. I was also supposed to go on a fenrir run that day.

so i figured i would help her get titan, i start building a pt for titan, then find out that she hasnt done any of the prime fights...

so ok, we will try and do them, i still had about 6 hours for my run, with a good tank and rdm or blm we should be ok.

well it takes about 2 hours to get a party going but finally we get on our way. so we knock out titan and shiva pretty easily, some people need to flag ifrit and shiva so the rest of us are in jeuno.

this whole time she is bitching about how no one had helped her get fenrir, and if she doesnt get it that day(eventually the lie was she had set that particular day to get it or she quits forever)

at first i was doing it to help, then for her not to quit. meanwhile i get a tell that the nm that drops my xbow is up, there are 4 of us in jeuno the others are off getting quest. i ask if we can run down to gustav tunnel to get this nm since no one is fighting it, no one says anything, so isay i'll brb.

i disband get a tele. i'm talking to my friend who says if his pt will engage it while the party i'm with gets there, well i have no party so they dont engage it.

my rdm friend who i had gotten to help, even though she already had mooon bauble also warps from sandy to dunes and meets me, i start /t'n people i know, then doing /sea's for people.

all of a sudden i start getting tells from lyrai and the blm, "you're a dick" "why are you ditching us" "you can get the nm anytime, you're helping us" i tell them i'll be back in a few min. they dont stop with their bitching

well i have no luck, and as i'm getting to gustav my friend says its gone claimed. and it dropped as i watched it die. side note a few 10+ hour days in that fucking place i still dont have my xbow.

so i'm still getting tells about how selfish i am to leave for 15 min while, everyone is getting ready for the next fight, and how lyrai is quitting and all this other shit.

for some reason, that is unknown to me, they convince me to help finish. we do shiva and ifrit, the blm cant do levi or ramuh because she has the whisper. so we get another blm to come along.

we do ramuh first, i didnt have that avatar i think thats why i went. then as we are waiting forever for people to get to levi i start falling asleep. then, this is not a lie, i dc because of problems with my credit card i had called it in lost, and it was the one i had for payments.

i wish i had really pulled the plug, it would have made me feel better about helping a whiny little bitch get what she wanted.
 
Hecate said:
Darkdante said:
Maybe its PMS.......

Haha, still the ever correct reason why girls get angry ;P perhaps she needs some calcium.

Don't worry about it though, you seemed quite polite about it all... even now, somewhat.

Um.. My bad, probably shouldn't have said that ><. :oops:

Gotta admit though sometimes I just run away from women cause they are scary. :shock:
 
I've partied with lyrai before, she is an excellent summoner. She tosses a cure when it is needed. She also helped me with G1. She is an excellent summoner in my opinion. But it does appear she snapped a little. Overall I still think she is a good person and an excellent summoner.

I like Vang and Lyrai. I'm probably gunna get flamed. But its my opinion.
 
This seems like the time I tried to explain to someone in Dunes that I cant just "Warp" them anywhere they want. He had set his HP in Dunes, and wanted me to warp him to Sandy. He had tried to bloodport before, but only ended up back in Dunes, so this person was so pissed off that they just died for no reason, that they started to yell at me, and start to call me vulgar names.

With some people, specialy those not willing to listen, you cant win really. This game has tons of them!
 
Darkdante said:
Um.. My bad, probably shouldn't have said that ><. :oops:

Gotta admit though sometimes I just run away from women cause they are scary. :shock:

Lol yes, we can be =P I didn't take offense or anything, if that's what you were thinking >_> I used to, but maybe I was PMSing then :wink:

Falsey said:
This seems like the time I tried to explain to someone in Dunes that I cant just "Warp" them anywhere they want. He had set his HP in Dunes, and wanted me to warp him to Sandy. He had tried to bloodport before, but only ended up back in Dunes, so this person was so pissed off that they just died for no reason, that they started to yell at me, and start to call me vulgar names.

With some people, specialy those not willing to listen, you cant win really. This game has tons of them!

wow o.O I can't even think of a name to describe the stupidity.
 
PEE EMM ESS!!!

I never thought of her as being really mature or anything after reading her post about Deucrobont and logging into his account etc.

Respect = 0.
 
Lyrai is a unique individual. She very much does not apprecaite people talking AT her (i.e. telling her that she should be a healer as a smn, and that otherwise she won't get any partys) The fastest way to piss her off is to tell her what to do, she doesn't like it and isn't afraid to let you know that. If you mind your business and don't presume to tell her hers you'll find her to be competent at her job and she accomplishes her main goal very competently. Is she alittle sensitive about shit sometimes? Sure, but only because she's taken more than her share of shit from people and isn't really interested in recieving more.

I've partied with her several times and not once has she ever told me how to be a pld, and in turn i haven't told her how to be a smn. This has resulted in us getting along just fine and never having a problem. Also, to be fair to her, whm is her main job, if she wanted to join a party and spend all day healing, she'd play that. But thats just my opinion.
 
I dunno about you but i knew lyrai from a long long long long LONG time ago... like, i was level 30 whm so.... january 04? lyrai's always been a great person and i've never had a bad encounter with, we did smn quest together, me lyrai and scizo... among about 4 other advance jobs... failed some promy runs together.... took everything in stride...

summoner has 1 letter the same as white mage... they both have E's... the similarity ends there... they should never HAVE to be a main healer no person who can only cure off a subjob should be the main healer. i fully understand and accept the aggrivation of trying to play a cool job like smn just to end up selecting the tank and hitting 4-5 macros...

then again... i know a lot of people on good terms only to later find out they have a bad rep here or elsewhere... i guess i just see that nice side... lyrai is A OK in my books, end of story, sorry you saw her darker side....
 
If you chose a job that has an assigned role and do not wish to perform said role... Geuss what you got no right to bitch about lack of invites. No matter how you look at it, SMNs are a healing Job, ppl will say, well they do not have cure normaly, well neither do ninjas have voke. Its the way the game works, if you do not want to heal... Well then chose another job other then WHM or SMN.
 
ppl will say, well they do not have cure normaly, well neither do ninjas have voke.

That is a very good point. Paladins don't have voke naturally either, and people whine and complain that warriors are sub-par tanks. (I am not of this opinion.) The sub can and does define the main in most cases.

As for the OP, I'm gonna go with "She was having a really BAD day." You tried to defuse the situation and she raked you with her claws anyways. You can't win sometimes.
 
Direwolf said:
If you chose a job that has an assigned role and do not wish to perform said role... Geuss what you got no right to bitch about lack of invites. No matter how you look at it, SMNs are a healing Job, ppl will say, well they do not have cure normaly, well neither do ninjas have voke. Its the way the game works, if you do not want to heal... Well then chose another job other then WHM or SMN.
lol, there's a reason why ninja's require a second job entirely just to keep the hate on them.... because they weren't designed as tanks... the developers never had any intentions of making them tanks.... we just decided they'd be such and we found people rich enough to blow 500k a level to tank so the whm can be lazy or you can skip getting a whm at all...
 
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