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No, really, it doesn't.

The FB has been slipping recently. Badly. What was at one point a fun board is devolving into one giant bitch about gil sellers and other random stupid topics. While lecturing some of you about posting is going to be wasted breath, I do see some improvement possible. Let's go over the points.

A good thread has:

- Effort put into the first post.
- Topics not currently being discussed in another thread or all the time
- Timely posting, i.e not creating 5 threads at once when 1 would encompass all of them
- Effort put into replies to the topic

A bad thread has:

- No effort put into the first post
- Overused, rehashed topics
- Spammish/unnecessary/Postcount +1 replies
- Doesn't belong on the FB, or anywhere for that reason.

There's no reason for people to keep spamming up garbage topics. Yes, the Flameboard is conductive to replies, but when a thread gets derailed on the first page and just turns into postcount +1ery, we have problems. This isn't Allakhazam or IGN or any other kiddie forum where your postcount is your internet penis. Please stop creating dumb topics and making this forum look stupider. Remember, we're a 'community site' now. Show other people our good side, and not 20 seperate "OMG FUX TEH GIL SELARZ" crap. If you want to bitch up a storm about that, go to Alla, they love to whine there.

I think this forum also needs better moderation. Not so much someone who is going to silence good discussion/flaming - but someone who can trim the fat. Too many people treat the forum as their personal soapbox to single out specific people they hate, regardless of justification. Moderation is lax on the board in general, and especially on the FB. It's not always a bad thing to give people time-outs from posting. It's one thing to use the freedom of the Flameboard to call someone a stupid fuck, but when you take it out of that one specific thread and use your posting ability to screw with them all over the board, that's over the line, imo.
 
Agreed.
That said, without my Internet penis, I'd be reduced to staring at a corner. Pathetic, yes, but my I-wang is my entire life. So sad. :roll:

Really, I am just bored at work, and that's all I have to say for myself.
 
So the flameboard is Anarchy with LIMITS..Ahhh..I wish ppl would fill me in on the rules before I go making an ass of myself.

And an adorable ass it is.

So is this a rant in response to a rant on ranting?

Or am I flaming a flame of the higher points of flaming?

I'm so fluckstered :?


I'm bord-er than Sneaky is...nah nah nah na nah nah
 
There's an art to flaming. When done well, it not only gets your point across, but it lets you blow off steam too.

When done poorly, you get This. Probably should be in Off-Topic with a lot less profanity. The best flames on this board are the ones that come from cool heads.

If you want to learn from the best, take a look at Keits' posts. His posts were logical, coherent, and most of all always made a point. I personally emulate his style at times, and it works well. I think at least one of the more talented Flameboard posters needs to be upgraded to mod status, in all honesty. It's 'anarchy,' sure, but there's a difference between a flame and a pointless post.

Get rid of the pointless posts (and the pointless posters) and the board will be better for it.
 
Hmm, I see your point. I'm also a little tired of reading the "Gil Seller" topics over and over again, but honestly, this is the Flameboard, there never was any rules established other than no editting, no discussion on how to obtain cheats, exploits, etc., or anything that would start to threaten or endanger the well being of a real life poster, such as the posting of a real name and address, phone number, etc.

The problem is the Flameboard tends to venture off-topic too much IMO. When arguements arise other factors are usually thrown in, and before we know it we're having another OT topic.

Don't know if the Flameboard needs moderation, doesn't look like it in my opinion, but I will admit sometimes some posts just beg to be deleted, but everyone here is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how stupid/incoherent it may seem to be.
 
CubsWoo said:
There's an art to flaming. When done well, it not only gets your point across, but it lets you blow off steam too.

When done poorly, you get This. Probably should be in Off-Topic with a lot less profanity. The best flames on this board are the ones that come from cool heads.

If you want to learn from the best, take a look at Keits' posts. His posts were logical, coherent, and most of all always made a point. I personally emulate his style at times, and it works well. I think at least one of the more talented Flameboard posters needs to be upgraded to mod status, in all honesty. It's 'anarchy,' sure, but there's a difference between a flame and a pointless post.

Get rid of the pointless posts (and the pointless posters) and the board will be better for it.
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Hmm as far I knew this was a place for all of quetz to gather and discuss. Your trying to make it into some elitest bullshit forum where there's only 10 people who post. So what if there's stupid topcis, dont read em, dont respond to em. let them die. While I dont disagree with your "time-out" idea for people that are mindlessly flaming, but just cause you think something is stupid doenst make it so...
 
Oy this argument is retarded...last time Sculli moderated this board everyone had a hissy fit and it got totally blown out of proportion.

"This board isn't supposed to be moderated WTF?!!?!!?!?!11111"

Make up your minds...yes the topics have been a little lame as of lately. I'm enjoying the WHM post but please don't bitch about moderation and then bitch when there isn't any... :roll:
 
So what if they posted something about their dog eating their Homework, so they got a detention...Let them vent, don't need to Ban/Suspend them just for venting off of something...

However, I do agree on the fact that there is no need for five million threads on the same topic...
 
If you aren't contributing anything to the discussion, or you're necroing an old thread just to bitch about the creator, or you create a new account for the sole purpose of bitching out one member...

Well, shit, maybe you should think twice before hitting submit.

Leading by example has obviously not worked. And you're right - DISCUSSIONS are welcome. Bitch fest #2394872349237 about gil sellers or how much item X costs should not. Other people have likely posted their griefs before you, and better.

Sabia: I have always fully supported some level of moderation on this board. There's a big difference between a flame and using the forum as your personal toilet. Even the best flameboards (FYAD is a prime example) has SOME level of moderation. Let people go, but there is a point where someone needs to step in.
 
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If you aren't contributing anything to the discussion, or you're necroing an old thread just to bitch about the creator, or you create a new account for the sole purpose of bitching out one member...

Well, shit, maybe you should think twice before hitting submit.

Leading by example has obviously not worked. And you're right - DISCUSSIONS are welcome. Bitch fest #2394872349237 about gil sellers or how much item X costs should not. Other people have likely posted their griefs before you, and better.
Sabia: I have always fully supported some level of moderation on this board. There's a big difference between a flame and using the forum as your personal toilet. Even the best flameboards (FYAD is a prime example) has SOME level of moderation. Let people go, but there is a point where someone needs to step in.
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It seems to me that you just don't care about what other people have to say. If you don't like it don't read it. If they topic says "Fucking expensive item!" Don't click it, if it says "Gil sellers....." don't click it! I don't like hanging out on the flameboards for that very reason....I dont need to read the same thing over and over again. Really if you don't wanna read it, don't click the link. Or stay off of the flameboard
 
Cubs the problem with this board is the fact it's all about opinion. You and I may find the Gill Seller thing to be out of hand but obvioulsy due to the number of threads popping up, others don't.

The problem with a Mod on this board is that what he/she finds retarded and old others are finding interesting and worth replying too.

I mean it absolutely drives me bonkers when people flame others spelling or way of posting, so I just skip the threads. It's like TV...if you don't like it - don't watch it.
 
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Cubs the problem with this board is the fact it's all about opinion. You and I may find the Gill Seller thing to be out of hand but obvioulsy due to the number of threads popping up, others don't.

The problem with a Mod on this board is that what he/she finds retarded and old others are finding interesting and worth replying too.

I mean it absolutely drives me bonkers when people flame others spelling or way of posting, so I just skip the threads. It's like TV...if you don't like it - don't watch it.
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I believe it is more like a train wreck or a car accident... As ugly as it may be, you find yourself watching even WITH the option to keep on moving and not taking a look. If it bothers you, you don't have to talk about it, you can keep it to yourself.
 
It's an endless cycle.

Random postwhore #1 makes thread about gil sellers. Postwhores #2-10 all see a bandwagon to jump on, so they add more forum waste by bumping the thread with one-line responses. I can moderate myself all I want by not responding, but it doesn't change the fact that there are more than enough people out there who are willing to keep stupid topics afloat and/or revive dead threads that no longer serve a purpose. But I do click on them, because I'm an optimist and I hope that somewhere, someone has injected something interesting, or at the very least funny, into the discussion.

Maybe you're lashing out at me because you're guilty of ++ery yourself, I don't know. But this is the FLAMEBOARD, and it's your RIGHT to post ANYTHING.

But, as I've said before, if there weren't stupid, pointless threads, there'd be nothing to complain about.
 
Sabia said:
Cubs the problem with this board is the fact it's all about opinion. You and I may find the Gill Seller thing to be out of hand but obvioulsy due to the number of threads popping up, others don't.

The problem with a Mod on this board is that what he/she finds retarded and old others are finding interesting and worth replying too.

I mean it absolutely drives me bonkers when people flame others spelling or way of posting, so I just skip the threads. It's like TV...if you don't like it - don't watch it.
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Even if the gil seller problem is worthy of a thread, is it worthy of ten? Sculli did well with the election/politics thread being a sticky and in ONE spot. It didn't bleed into other threads because there was an official place for it.

Combine the threads about gil selling, give it a sticky for all I care. Let people vent and whine and bitch all they want about it - but keep it THERE. And lock any new ones that pop up.

I love - LOVE - the way SA mods their forums. If you follow the rules, nothing bad ever happens to you. But if you act like a dipshit - sorry, thanks for playing, spend another $10 if you want a new account.
 
But isn't it as easy as not reading those posts? Everytime I see a new gil seller post, I just go onto the next topic. If I see a personal attack, most of the time, I just read the initial post and look for the response of the attackee.

There are many topics about similar situations, but many people use the boards as a way to vent so they don't go nuts and crazy. Online Therapy I guess. Well, that's what I use it for if I'm really pissed off at something.

And moderation isn't really the answer with this board. People seemed to always go nuts when the threads were locked or when Keits was banned.
 
Flaming is an art form, but I don't always have time for art.

As an artist, I am allowed to say that.

And I am married to a Russian, so fuck all the Russians, right in their asses.
 
Sneakypants said:
Flaming is an art form, but I don't always have time for art.

As an artist, I am allowed to say that.

And I am married to a Russian, so fuck all the Russians, right in their asses.
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I could never convince my wife to let.... Nvm., :oops:
 
Personally, i think theres too many threads about how theres too many threads about gil sellers. I hate people who hate people who hate gil sellers, and complain about the complaints about gil sellers. I would start a thread about people like me who hate people who hate people who hate gil sellers, but then the people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate gil sellers whould just start a bunch of threads about how they hate people who hate people who hate people who hate gil sellers, and that would just make me hate them too, and then i would have to start threads about how i hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate gil sellers. I just don't have time for that. :roll:

I sure to hate gil sellers though, who agrees with me? :wink:
 
CubsWoo said:
If you want to learn from the best, take a look at Keits' posts. His posts were logical, coherent, and most of all always made a point.
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No, he wasn't. He was overly emotional and his logic was often faulty. His posts didn't always make a point because a good number of them were spent in pointless pissing matches just insulting people over and over (which might be a point in and of itself, but it really loses something when all you do is repeat yourself).

Worst of all, I found Keits to be mind-numbingly boring.

If people want to get rid of the gil sellers/bad gear/whatever threads, they can just not post to them. And if the thread goes on and on because others do keep posting to them, well, stop reading them. :roll:
 
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